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(05-02-2017 01:36 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:33 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:31 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:30 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 10:33 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  how is rolling the dice on a transfer different than rolling the dice on a freshman big?

For one thing, there are a whole lot more high schools to recruit those big men from than there are transfers from colleges. More supply to choose from. With proper recruiting, you should be getting at least one of the guys you were going after at the high school level.

Secondly, if the coaching staff is willing to put in the time, they can build a relationship with the high school players they are wanting to recruit well before they have to make their decisions on where they will go.

Lastly, as someone has stated on here earlier, you have a chance to get someone like a Frank Hassell, Chris Cooper, or even a David Robinson that can come in and develop to the extent that if they had gone to another school and were to transfer as a senior then ODU would not likely be their choice to transfer to because the power 5 conference schools would be looking to get them. Our chances of getting a stellar inside player are better getting at least a regular diet of high school recruits then they are going the transfer route.

Our best chance at getting the great transfer are simply if they have a relative on the coaching staff (Stiths) or are looking to be close to home for one reason or another (Freeman, Painter).

What about Porter or Arledge?

Nice players, but aren't on the level of Laughton, Lee, or Hassell. And the proof is in the lack of NCAA bids.

Porter is a soph. How would we know? Hassell really didnt do much until his senior year so it may be a stretch to say hes significantly better than Porter.

I would trade any interior player we have on the team today for a reincarnation of Frank to come in for his junior and senior seasons again. As a junior he was listed as 6'-9", 255 lbs. He averaged 9 points, 7 rebounds, and 1 blocked shot per game while sharing the load inside with Gerald Lee (another stellar freshman recruit).

To say that Hassell really didn't do much until his senior year is simply not accurate.

(05-02-2017 01:55 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:51 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:37 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:36 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:11 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  We probably have a top 3 class next year if you include Mcclinton. We will be fine.

What is your definition of 'fine' in the context of how you just stated it?

What results do you expect ODU to have this coming season when it is all said and done?

Just curious to see where your mind is on this as far as the big picture (end result) is concerned.

top 75. Top 2-3 in conference

And in the conference tournament?

Any post season?

What you have described thus far is basically more of the same?

Predicting how a team will do over the course of a season is reasonable. predicting what they will do over the course of a weekend is really unpredictable.

Top 75 should get them into post season, no? No expectations on that now?

(05-02-2017 02:02 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:36 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:33 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:31 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:30 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  For one thing, there are a whole lot more high schools to recruit those big men from than there are transfers from colleges. More supply to choose from. With proper recruiting, you should be getting at least one of the guys you were going after at the high school level.

Secondly, if the coaching staff is willing to put in the time, they can build a relationship with the high school players they are wanting to recruit well before they have to make their decisions on where they will go.

Lastly, as someone has stated on here earlier, you have a chance to get someone like a Frank Hassell, Chris Cooper, or even a David Robinson that can come in and develop to the extent that if they had gone to another school and were to transfer as a senior then ODU would not likely be their choice to transfer to because the power 5 conference schools would be looking to get them. Our chances of getting a stellar inside player are better getting at least a regular diet of high school recruits then they are going the transfer route.

Our best chance at getting the great transfer are simply if they have a relative on the coaching staff (Stiths) or are looking to be close to home for one reason or another (Freeman, Painter).

What about Porter or Arledge?

Nice players, but aren't on the level of Laughton, Lee, or Hassell. And the proof is in the lack of NCAA bids.

Porter is a soph. How would we know? Hassell really didnt do much until his senior year so it may be a stretch to say hes significantly better than Porter.

I would trade any interior player we have on the team today for a reincarnation of Frank to come in for his junior and senior seasons again. As a junior he was listed as 6'-9", 255 lbs. He averaged 9 points, 7 rebounds, and 1 blocked shot per game while sharing the load inside with Gerald Lee (another stellar freshman recruit).

To say that Hassell really didn't do much until his senior year is simply not accurate.

Hassell had a decent junior year, yes.

(05-02-2017 02:07 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:55 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:51 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:37 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:36 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  What is your definition of 'fine' in the context of how you just stated it?

What results do you expect ODU to have this coming season when it is all said and done?

Just curious to see where your mind is on this as far as the big picture (end result) is concerned.

top 75. Top 2-3 in conference

And in the conference tournament?

Any post season?

What you have described thus far is basically more of the same?

Predicting how a team will do over the course of a season is reasonable. predicting what they will do over the course of a weekend is really unpredictable.

Top 75 should get them into post season, no? No expectations on that now?

If we end up in one of those CHIT tournaments again, then top 75 or not, JJ needs to go.

NCAA's or bust.

(05-02-2017 02:07 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:55 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:51 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:37 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:36 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  What is your definition of 'fine' in the context of how you just stated it?

What results do you expect ODU to have this coming season when it is all said and done?

Just curious to see where your mind is on this as far as the big picture (end result) is concerned.

top 75. Top 2-3 in conference

And in the conference tournament?

Any post season?

What you have described thus far is basically more of the same?

Predicting how a team will do over the course of a season is reasonable. predicting what they will do over the course of a weekend is really unpredictable.

Top 75 should get them into post season, no? No expectations on that now?

Im not going to try to predict how committees will view them or how they will perform over the course of a weekend.

(05-02-2017 02:10 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 02:07 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:55 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:51 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:37 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  top 75. Top 2-3 in conference

And in the conference tournament?

Any post season?

What you have described thus far is basically more of the same?

Predicting how a team will do over the course of a season is reasonable. predicting what they will do over the course of a weekend is really unpredictable.

Top 75 should get them into post season, no? No expectations on that now?

If we end up in one of those CHIT tournaments again, then top 75 or not, JJ needs to go.

NCAA's or bust.

Yea I agree. Either a spoiled conference championship game and an NIT appearance or an NCAA birth. If neither takes place, the man has to find somewhere else to call home.

Edit: I am a lot higher on next year's team than a lot of you on this board. I think we will be very good. Giles...Fine...No. Much better than "fine".

(05-02-2017 02:13 PM)757ODU Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 02:10 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 02:07 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:55 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:51 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  And in the conference tournament?

Any post season?

What you have described thus far is basically more of the same?

Predicting how a team will do over the course of a season is reasonable. predicting what they will do over the course of a weekend is really unpredictable.

Top 75 should get them into post season, no? No expectations on that now?

If we end up in one of those CHIT tournaments again, then top 75 or not, JJ needs to go.

NCAA's or bust.

Yea I agree. Either a spoiled conference championship game and an NIT appearance or an NCAA birth. If neither takes place, the man has to find somewhere else to call home.

That's where I am. JJ needs to at least give ODU fans a reason to watch the selection show in 2018.

Not sure where this would go, but just noticed that Jack Whitman (W&M) has committed to sign with Kansas as a grad transfer.

Akoy Agua will transfer from Georgetown. 2 years eligibility, starts now. He may be looking at more prominent programs, but would be perfect fit.

Would be sweet to get a 85% FT shooting big guy.

2 years at Louisville, 1 at Georgetown. How does he have 2 years remaining?

It's official. Kante to UGA.

https://uga.rivals.com/news/isaac-kante-...eview=true

I guess we won't have much else to talk about until November, when we have our next 8 minute scoring drought.

Have a great summer fellas.

Won't miss the laughing pooch

"The facilities were way better than the other schools I've visited"

Oh well, So much for our world class practice facility!

(05-02-2017 04:43 PM)mac Wrote:  "The facilities were way better than the other schools I've visited"

Oh well, So much for our world class practice facility!

I had the same thought. Ours still has that new facility smell, and it obviously made no impression on him. :( Somethings gotta give with the inside play. In two years we're looking at all guards and small forwards. We're fine this year, but after that its looking bare.

(05-02-2017 04:43 PM)mac Wrote:  "The facilities were way better than the other schools I've visited"

Oh well, So much for our world class practice facility!

Yeah, why aren't we on par with Georgia?

(05-02-2017 01:25 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:05 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  It is kind of perplexing when you compare us to what other schools are landing.

I know its a dead horse, but I really think it has everything to do with our coach. He just isn't a great recruiter.

No ****!!!!!!

(05-02-2017 05:25 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 04:43 PM)mac Wrote:  "The facilities were way better than the other schools I've visited"

Oh well, So much for our world class practice facility!

Yeah, why aren't we on par with Georgia?

I'm missing the sarcasm emoji here, right? Our facilities on par with an SEC school?


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(05-02-2017 07:11 PM)blewbyu Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:25 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:05 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  It is kind of perplexing when you compare us to what other schools are landing.

I know its a dead horse, but I really think it has everything to do with our coach. He just isn't a great recruiter.

No ****!!!!!!

I'm shocked, this is first time ODU has lost a recruit to a Power 5 school (being sarcastic, of course)! I have no idea how true it is that Jones "isn't a great recruiter," I just know, human nature being what it is, that when a player has a choice between mid-major schools and a Power 5 school, he is going to choose the Power 5 school almost very time.

(05-02-2017 08:02 PM)Big Bluezilla Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 05:25 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 04:43 PM)mac Wrote:  "The facilities were way better than the other schools I've visited"

Oh well, So much for our world class practice facility!

Yeah, why aren't we on par with Georgia?

I'm missing the sarcasm emoji here, right? Our facilities on par with an SEC school?


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