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RE: FLOYD-C-USA --Only as good as its bottom teams
You know, the same philosophy goes for football. Scheduling Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas, etc for one and dones and coming into conference play 0-4 or 1-3 doesn't help out much either. With basketball you have a better chance at winning, at least. OTOH, it's even more volatile to schedule a team 2-3 years out in basketball and have no idea if they'll be worth a crap by the time you play them.
I think UAB beat UNC a couple years ago and they were so bad by season's end it lowered UAB's RPI. You just never know.
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RE: FLOYD-C-USA --Only as good as its bottom teams
(10-29-2015 02:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote: (10-29-2015 01:44 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote: (10-29-2015 01:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote: (10-29-2015 11:16 AM)VA49er Wrote: (10-29-2015 11:12 AM)Fitbud Wrote: I get that there is probably no up side to playing top 25 programs especially on the road. By the same token however, there is no up side to playing "no name " programs either.
This year's UTEP schedule is so terrible, they have no shot of getting an at large bid unless they win 30 games.
There are a lot of good G5 progams that we could and should be scheduling but we aren't. Also, there are a lot of mediocre P5 programs that I know CUSA teams can beat to improve their RPI.
IMO, there's a lot of upside of playing Top 25 teams anywhere. Saying there isn't is just admitting you suck and know your place, etc. Those games provide top competition, the occasional win, and an RPI boost.
How many CUSA teams have beat a top 25 opponent on the road and how many times have they lost? I'm guessing that it's less than a 10% chance.
For the top 5 or 6 teams in CUSA, that's nonsense. Even in a down year, I'd say 30%.
In fact, we should be able to BE Top 25 teams, not just beat them.
When was the last time a CUSA team beat a top 25 team on the road?
Probably when Tech beat Oklahoma in Norman December 30 2013.
They had already beaten Seton Hall, Alabama, and Texas A&M. Only lost was to #1 Michigan State up until that point. Ended the regular season at #21 in the AP poll. This year Oklahoma ended the year at #15 in the AP poll
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Dawgxas
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RE: FLOYD-C-USA --Only as good as its bottom teams
(10-29-2015 06:16 PM)MUther Wrote: You know, the same philosophy goes for football. Scheduling Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas, etc for one and dones and coming into conference play 0-4 or 1-3 doesn't help out much either. With basketball you have a better chance at winning, at least. OTOH, it's even more volatile to schedule a team 2-3 years out in basketball and have no idea if they'll be worth a crap by the time you play them.
I think UAB beat UNC a couple years ago and they were so bad by season's end it lowered UAB's RPI. You just never know.
So true, especially Southland, Sunbelt and SWAC opponents. One year they are making into the second round of the tourney, the next year they are 200 RPI
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RE: FLOYD-C-USA --Only as good as its bottom teams
(10-29-2015 06:47 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: (10-29-2015 06:16 PM)MUther Wrote: You know, the same philosophy goes for football. Scheduling Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas, etc for one and dones and coming into conference play 0-4 or 1-3 doesn't help out much either. With basketball you have a better chance at winning, at least. OTOH, it's even more volatile to schedule a team 2-3 years out in basketball and have no idea if they'll be worth a crap by the time you play them.
I think UAB beat UNC a couple years ago and they were so bad by season's end it lowered UAB's RPI. You just never know.
North Carolina had a #27 RPI at the end of the year when UAB beat them. They weren't as good as usual UNC teams, but they weren't bad.
Exactly. It's really not that difficult to know who's good or at least expected to be. Sure a clunker or two happens but this is deflecting from the problem. Scheduling volatility isn't to blame for CUSA's RPI woes.
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RE: FLOYD-C-USA --Only as good as its bottom teams
I would be all in favor of having a conference scheduling policy in both basketball and football.
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RE: FLOYD-C-USA --Only as good as its bottom teams
(10-29-2015 05:16 PM)AndreWhere Wrote: (10-28-2015 07:36 PM)stinkfist Wrote: we have a judy as a cusa commish....
whatever guys....do you really think anyone will take us seriously with her at the helm???....you're lying if you state otherwise....
call it what you want....I don't give two shites at this point....fk pc and fk that....fk the sideline biatch reporter....and fk the chick in booth for baseball.....what's next.......fk'n hockey.....
we had a chick prez at southern miss.....how'd that work out
this pc shite is outta control......I'm done with it.....
y'all have fun with that shite.....no money, no mo....fk that...
there are some things that men do, and there are some things that women can.....this ain't one of them.....not at this level.....
that's what floyd is really saying......
LOL You da man, Stink. You shared your opinion and it made me smile. I hear you on legitimate differences between the sexes, but Judy is really just one piece of the puzzle/problem. If she's smart she'll solicit help with the **** she's not good at.
I got a couple of neg reps out of it....oh wellzy to another whiskey rant...
to your point, that's what a good manager should do....
I'll give her the benefit of the doubt (on a very short leash)....the sentiment is basically still the same....sans all the f-bombs...
there are just some things where gender becomes an issue with me....sports leadership for men is one of them....
she may be the most competent person this conference will ever see in leadership.....but the respect level she will get upon any initial handshake type deal(s) will be seen one of two ways.....either she's a pushover or a biatch....
that's reality whether people want to admit or not....
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RE: FLOYD-C-USA --Only as good as its bottom teams
(10-28-2015 07:36 PM)stinkfist Wrote: we have a judy as a cusa commish....
whatever guys....do you really think anyone will take us seriously with her at the helm???....you're lying if you state otherwise....
call it what you want....I don't give two shites at this point....fk pc and fk that....fk the sideline biatch reporter....and fk the chick in booth for baseball.....what's next.......fk'n hockey.....
we had a chick prez at southern miss.....how'd that work out
this pc shite is outta control......I'm done with it.....
y'all have fun with that shite.....no money, no mo....fk that...
there are some things that men do, and there are some things that women can.....this ain't one of them.....not at this level.....
that's what floyd is really saying......
You really are a Neanderthal
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RE: FLOYD-C-USA --Only as good as its bottom teams
(10-29-2015 07:27 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote: I would be all in favor of having a conference scheduling policy in both basketball and football.
Sounds good in theory but not practical, each school is different -has different goals and agendas.
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RE: FLOYD-C-USA --Only as good as its bottom teams
(10-29-2015 09:12 AM)stinkfist Wrote: I didn't think that would go over well when I woke up this morning....
that was whiskey talkin'
sorry folks, park should've been closed last night....
On a Wednesday night? It appears you have a problem. Seek help.
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RE: FLOYD-C-USA --Only as good as its bottom teams
(10-29-2015 08:40 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (10-29-2015 05:16 PM)AndreWhere Wrote: (10-28-2015 07:36 PM)stinkfist Wrote: we have a judy as a cusa commish....
whatever guys....do you really think anyone will take us seriously with her at the helm???....you're lying if you state otherwise....
call it what you want....I don't give two shites at this point....fk pc and fk that....fk the sideline biatch reporter....and fk the chick in booth for baseball.....what's next.......fk'n hockey.....
we had a chick prez at southern miss.....how'd that work out
this pc shite is outta control......I'm done with it.....
y'all have fun with that shite.....no money, no mo....fk that...
there are some things that men do, and there are some things that women can.....this ain't one of them.....not at this level.....
that's what floyd is really saying......
LOL You da man, Stink. You shared your opinion and it made me smile. I hear you on legitimate differences between the sexes, but Judy is really just one piece of the puzzle/problem. If she's smart she'll solicit help with the **** she's not good at.
I got a couple of neg reps out of it....oh wellzy to another whiskey rant...
to your point, that's what a good manager should do....
I'll give her the benefit of the doubt (on a very short leash)....the sentiment is basically still the same....sans all the f-bombs...
there are just some things where gender becomes an issue with me....sports leadership for men is one of them....
she may be the most competent person this conference will ever see in leadership.....but the respect level she will get upon any initial handshake type deal(s) will be seen one of two ways.....either she's a pushover or a biatch....
that's reality whether people want to admit or not....
In the eyes of neanderthals like you. I judge someone on his/her merits. If there isn't a body of work to determine merit then I withhold judgement until there is.
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RE: FLOYD-C-USA --Only as good as its bottom teams
(10-29-2015 07:27 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote: I would be all in favor of having a conference scheduling policy in both basketball and football.
I think many are finally coming around to the same conclusion. If CUSA wants to maximize its success then coherent, agreed upon scheduling standards is a sound strategy.
Conference realignment caused a bunch of upheaval but things have settled for now and it's time to unify and forge ahead together.
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RE: FLOYD-C-USA --Only as good as its bottom teams
(10-30-2015 06:45 AM)Funslinger Wrote: (10-29-2015 09:12 AM)stinkfist Wrote: I didn't think that would go over well when I woke up this morning....
that was whiskey talkin'
sorry folks, park should've been closed last night....
On a Wednesday night? It appears you have a problem. Seek help.
I think the proportion of functioning alcoholics in our fanbase has increased recently. It's not completely because of going 2-90 and getting kicked out of our conference, but that **** didn't help.
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RE: FLOYD-C-USA --Only as good as its bottom teams
(10-29-2015 09:12 AM)stinkfist Wrote: I didn't think that would go over well when I woke up this morning....
that was whiskey talkin'
sorry folks, park should've been closed last night....
That's alright dude, but most women are very intelligent, intuitive, and capable. I've heard nothing but great things about the new commish. Everything's gonna be okay.
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RE: FLOYD-C-USA --Only as good as its bottom teams
(10-30-2015 10:19 AM)monarchoptimist Wrote: (10-29-2015 07:27 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote: I would be all in favor of having a conference scheduling policy in both basketball and football.
I think many are finally coming around to the same conclusion. If CUSA wants to maximize its success then coherent, agreed upon scheduling standards is a sound strategy.
Conference realignment caused a bunch of upheaval but things have settled for now and it's time to unify and forge ahead together.
I agree with this. We, as a conference, need to get a lot smarter at scheduling. There needs to be a plan. Good basketball, that's recognized as such around the country, would be a tremendous asset to the conference.
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RE: FLOYD-C-USA --Only as good as its bottom teams
The new Commish interviewed during halftime of Tech and Rice. She did a good job. "Just never know about expansion"
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RE: FLOYD-C-USA --Only as good as its bottom teams
(10-29-2015 08:40 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (10-29-2015 05:16 PM)AndreWhere Wrote: (10-28-2015 07:36 PM)stinkfist Wrote: we have a judy as a cusa commish....
whatever guys....do you really think anyone will take us seriously with her at the helm???....you're lying if you state otherwise....
call it what you want....I don't give two shites at this point....fk pc and fk that....fk the sideline biatch reporter....and fk the chick in booth for baseball.....what's next.......fk'n hockey.....
we had a chick prez at southern miss.....how'd that work out
this pc shite is outta control......I'm done with it.....
y'all have fun with that shite.....no money, no mo....fk that...
there are some things that men do, and there are some things that women can.....this ain't one of them.....not at this level.....
that's what floyd is really saying......
LOL You da man, Stink. You shared your opinion and it made me smile. I hear you on legitimate differences between the sexes, but Judy is really just one piece of the puzzle/problem. If she's smart she'll solicit help with the **** she's not good at.
I got a couple of neg reps out of it....oh wellzy to another whiskey rant...
to your point, that's what a good manager should do....
I'll give her the benefit of the doubt (on a very short leash)....the sentiment is basically still the same....sans all the f-bombs...
there are just some things where gender becomes an issue with me....sports leadership for men is one of them....
she may be the most competent person this conference will ever see in leadership.....but the respect level she will get upon any initial handshake type deal(s) will be seen one of two ways.....either she's a pushover or a biatch....
that's reality whether people want to admit or not....
A good negotiator would see someone underestimating them as an advantage. Sports is a business like any other. It's certainly not rocket science . We've got to have the product to sell though. i see this as talk but positive talk. Time will tell if she's up to the task. If we're looking for someone to sell **** though it won't matter how low our commish swings.
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RE: FLOYD-C-USA --Only as good as its bottom teams
Maybe Floyd should worry about his own team. His boys lost to sorry ass Southern Miss and Marshall last season. Who the **** is he?
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RE: FLOYD-C-USA --Only as good as its bottom teams
(10-30-2015 11:41 PM)Stick4489 Wrote: Maybe Floyd should worry about his own team. His boys lost to sorry ass Southern Miss and Marshall last season. Who the **** is he?
The best coach in CUSA. In Floyd we trust.
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RE: FLOYD-C-USA --Only as good as its bottom teams
seems like a lot of money games scheduled in FB too but no criticism there. Seems a double standard or did we really feel we could win at Alabama, LSU and Oklahoma, Texas etc.?
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