I'm disappointed with the current TV coverage. You basically have to buy the programs or have premium programming. I have some but still have to buy programs. I'm not really excited about MacLeod but too late now. Getting schools to know each other? (Per the article) - by the time schools start learning something about each other realignment will happen again so I wouldn't bet on it. TV deals with ESPN would be nice. As much as I can't stand them they offer the best coverage. CBS sports is ok and Fox.

(10-27-2015 05:34 PM)SethManKA1 Wrote:  I'm disappointed with the current TV coverage. You basically have to buy the programs or have premium programming. I have some but still have to buy programs. I'm not really excited about MacLeod but too late now. Getting schools to know each other? (Per the article) - by the time schools start learning something about each other realignment will happen again so I wouldn't bet on it. TV deals with ESPN would be nice. As much as I can't stand them they offer the best coverage. CBS sports is ok and Fox.

CBS Sports is the worst. Fox at least has tons of regional channels.

CBS has cbs and cbs sports. I hope they're not involved in our next contract.

Our revenue will decrease as the value of the product we used to sell has decreased. Gonna be a rough day when this deal is announced, may be less than the MAC.

Are the leftover CUSA schools still guaranteed the same amount by the exit of those who left to join AAC?

BTW,

I also think streaming is the way of the future. People love live sports, and especially football. Making our games available in good quality, online, for free, would be a game changer imo.

I know its the NFL, but their game in London was broadcast on Yahoo. NFL and Yahoo partnered and both of them basically said they were testing the waters. Their numbers were pretty sweet for a first time thing. They already did it, and the numbers already proved to be really good. Basically just says this is the future imo.

As for the basketball side of things. I hope this conference takes the necessary steps to get multiple bids each year. Doing this not only brings a lot more money, but it also provides more chances for someone in our conference to make a run. We need this conference to have a Top 25 team in football each year, with getting the AB 3/10 years. We need basketball to have at least 2 teams in the dance every year. Honestly no reason this can't be a 3-4 bid league in some years.

(10-27-2015 08:00 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Are the leftover CUSA schools still guaranteed the same amount by the exit of those who left to join AAC?

No. Defectors were liable for tv revenue loss ONLY until the time the contract at the time expired. They are off the hook forever after this one is over and done except if they owe any exit fee, etc which would accrue to USM, Marshall, Utep, Rice, UAB, none of the newbies.

Cool. Thanks for the info.

Basketball needs to be better, glad everyone agrees....SOme schools will not like the scheduling mandates, but they will have to get over it...The bottom of the conference in hoops is a joke right now.....
As far as TV, I think the big issues is we are the only conference coming up for negotiations, and this is very bad timing with seemingly every day cuts being made by networks and cable companies dropping like a rock...See Fox last night, they must have not budgeted for a cable truck to pick up feed for the World Series, haha..

(10-27-2015 08:51 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Cool. Thanks for the info.

Quote:On the effective date of any member's withdrawal from the Conference, such member shall pay the Conference a withdrawal fee, which
shall be determined as follows:
(a) If the member affords the Conference at least one calendar year prior notice of withdrawal but less than two calendar years
prior notice of withdrawal, the member shall pay the Conference a withdrawal fee of (i) $500,000 plus (ii) the aggregate
amount, if any, by which the television rights fees received by the remaining members of the Conference pursuant to any and
all Conference-level television broadcast and licensing agreements are reduced, as a result of the member's withdrawal, during
the five year period immediately subsequent to the effective date of the member's withdrawal.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/tuls...ndbook.pdf

Looking at this, the remaining teams would be made whole for three years. Two from UCF, SMU, UH, Memphis bball credits, Tulsa, Tulsa and ECU with one more coming out of Tulsa, Tulane and ECU's pockets. So, maybe look for a 3 year deal? Is that even possible? It would be similar to what the AAC did...make the holdovers whole (through exit fee distribution) for the duration of the tv contract.

(10-27-2015 02:50 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  God help me for even bringing this up, but does a short-term contract mean they're anticipating more conference movement? If they think they're adding or replacing teams in the next 2-4 years, then having a shorter wait for another contract benefits them.

Hey, that could be good news for some schools!
Crossing fingers it means Rice!

(10-28-2015 10:20 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 08:51 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Cool. Thanks for the info.

Quote:On the effective date of any member's withdrawal from the Conference, such member shall pay the Conference a withdrawal fee, which
shall be determined as follows:
(a) If the member affords the Conference at least one calendar year prior notice of withdrawal but less than two calendar years
prior notice of withdrawal, the member shall pay the Conference a withdrawal fee of (i) $500,000 plus (ii) the aggregate
amount, if any, by which the television rights fees received by the remaining members of the Conference pursuant to any and
all Conference-level television broadcast and licensing agreements are reduced, as a result of the member's withdrawal, during
the five year period immediately subsequent to the effective date of the member's withdrawal.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/tuls...ndbook.pdf

Looking at this, the remaining teams would be made whole for three years. Two from UCF, SMU, UH, Memphis bball credits, Tulsa, Tulsa and ECU with one more coming out of Tulsa, Tulane and ECU's pockets. So, maybe look for a 3 year deal? Is that even possible? It would be similar to what the AAC did...make the holdovers whole (through exit fee distribution) for the duration of the tv contract.

aac deal is 6 years, this is year 2.

(10-27-2015 02:50 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  God help me for even bringing this up, but does a short-term contract mean they're anticipating more conference movement? If they think they're adding or replacing teams in the next 2-4 years, then having a shorter wait for another contract benefits them.

I honestly think everyone is expecting the BigXII will be making a move soon, it's just a question of how many dominoes fall afterwards.

(10-28-2015 10:01 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(10-28-2015 10:20 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 08:51 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Cool. Thanks for the info.

Quote:On the effective date of any member's withdrawal from the Conference, such member shall pay the Conference a withdrawal fee, which
shall be determined as follows:
(a) If the member affords the Conference at least one calendar year prior notice of withdrawal but less than two calendar years
prior notice of withdrawal, the member shall pay the Conference a withdrawal fee of (i) $500,000 plus (ii) the aggregate
amount, if any, by which the television rights fees received by the remaining members of the Conference pursuant to any and
all Conference-level television broadcast and licensing agreements are reduced, as a result of the member's withdrawal, during
the five year period immediately subsequent to the effective date of the member's withdrawal.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/tuls...ndbook.pdf

Looking at this, the remaining teams would be made whole for three years. Two from UCF, SMU, UH, Memphis bball credits, Tulsa, Tulsa and ECU with one more coming out of Tulsa, Tulane and ECU's pockets. So, maybe look for a 3 year deal? Is that even possible? It would be similar to what the AAC did...make the holdovers whole (through exit fee distribution) for the duration of the tv contract.

aac deal is 6 years, this is year 2.

Correct, but it's been 3 years since UCF, SMU, UH and Memphis left so they would only be liable for any shortfalls on the next CUSA contract for 2 years, the rest three. I was wondering if CUSA would do like the AAC did and time exit fee distribution to coincide with the length of the next tv contract. However, three years may be too short. If they are able to do it, there would be no loss for the holdovers in the short term and may buy some time to get a better contract next time around.

(10-29-2015 09:49 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(10-28-2015 10:01 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(10-28-2015 10:20 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 08:51 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Cool. Thanks for the info.

Quote:On the effective date of any member's withdrawal from the Conference, such member shall pay the Conference a withdrawal fee, which
shall be determined as follows:
(a) If the member affords the Conference at least one calendar year prior notice of withdrawal but less than two calendar years
prior notice of withdrawal, the member shall pay the Conference a withdrawal fee of (i) $500,000 plus (ii) the aggregate
amount, if any, by which the television rights fees received by the remaining members of the Conference pursuant to any and
all Conference-level television broadcast and licensing agreements are reduced, as a result of the member's withdrawal, during
the five year period immediately subsequent to the effective date of the member's withdrawal.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/tuls...ndbook.pdf

Looking at this, the remaining teams would be made whole for three years. Two from UCF, SMU, UH, Memphis bball credits, Tulsa, Tulsa and ECU with one more coming out of Tulsa, Tulane and ECU's pockets. So, maybe look for a 3 year deal? Is that even possible? It would be similar to what the AAC did...make the holdovers whole (through exit fee distribution) for the duration of the tv contract.

aac deal is 6 years, this is year 2.

Correct, but it's been 3 years since UCF, SMU, UH and Memphis left so they would only be liable for any shortfalls on the next CUSA contract for 2 years, the rest three. I was wondering if CUSA would do like the AAC did and time exit fee distribution to coincide with the length of the next tv contract. However, three years may be too short. If they are able to do it, there would be no loss for the holdovers in the short term and may buy some time to get a better contract next time around.

That exit fee income, while substantial, is not necessarily what it seems. Each school that leaves is responsible for any decrease in the conference media agreement that is caused by its exit. There are several issues I have never heard addressed.

When multiple teams leaves--there is really no way to tell how much any one team "damaged the payout", so it just gets negotiated. Two, thus far, there has been no damage as the payout has remained the same. Finally, as none of the defectors would have had anything to do with the new contract being negotiated, Ive never heard a straight answer as to whether the income preservation clause in the bylaws is applicable to the new contract. I do know the schools that left each had to put a tidy sum in excess of the standard $500K in escrow for CUSA as part of the exit arrangement (I believe we had pay a bit over 3 million). Just my guess, but I believe it was an amount negotiated with each team (minus monies that any NCAA credit income that team earned that would be staying with CUSA). Bottom line, if there is a decline in media earnings, there is a significant pool of money to soften its affect on the older CUSA members. Only the older members would be protected by that clause---but they could of course share it if they choose to do so.

Heard very positive comments about MacLeod from a Tulsa donor. I think C-USA has someone at the helm who can definitely enable the league to reach its full potential.

(10-29-2015 09:38 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 02:50 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  God help me for even bringing this up, but does a short-term contract mean they're anticipating more conference movement? If they think they're adding or replacing teams in the next 2-4 years, then having a shorter wait for another contract benefits them.

I honestly think everyone is expecting the BigXII will be making a move soon, it's just a question of how many dominoes fall afterwards.

If the AAC loses anyone, I'm not convinced they pull from CUSA again. I could see Rice getting a call though if they lose Houston. I think we're all going to be together for a while.

Mention of C-USA negotiations in MattSarz's blog today. http://mattsarzsports.blogspot.com/2015/...l?spref=tw

(10-29-2015 07:35 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(10-29-2015 09:38 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 02:50 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  God help me for even bringing this up, but does a short-term contract mean they're anticipating more conference movement? If they think they're adding or replacing teams in the next 2-4 years, then having a shorter wait for another contract benefits them.

I honestly think everyone is expecting the BigXII will be making a move soon, it's just a question of how many dominoes fall afterwards.

If the AAC loses anyone, I'm not convinced they pull from CUSA again. I could see Rice getting a call though if they lose Houston. I think we're all going to be together for a while.

I am not convinced that Rice would get the nod. I have heard it said that there are too many small private schools in the AAC already.