(10-26-2015 09:37 AM)dukesfan4010 Wrote:  Simeyon is back for W&M

Hope so, that would be GREAT NEWS.....the DLine needs a shot in the arm.

(10-26-2015 08:51 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  Having Robinson back in the mix on the d-line would be a HUGE help. He may be the best/most athletic interior d-lineman.

I did like the EW was pretty point blank in the post game presser that the 'Defense just got the ass beat' all game long. There is no excuse in scoring 49 points and losing. It seemed to me that Richmond RB was killing us on patient cut-back runs. Not gonna blame officiating for the loss, but it is interesting with that many plays I don't think Richmond got called for a single holding penalty.

JMU should have been ready for that onside kick ----- Richmond was setup perfect kicking from the 50. When I saw only 3 guys up front I as concerned.

The onside; did the players just not execute of did the coaches think they were faking it?

Green is an amazing athlete, where the heck has he been earlier in the season? It seemed to me; we were very unprepared for him.

It seems to me CAA officials are very inconsistent and it doesn't matter what sport it is. It was obvious when VCU left the CAA for the A10 but I thought football would be different since the CAA is one of the top FCS conferences. How you don't call text book 101 holding on back to back plays on the same player and then call a shirt grab a few min. later. Inconsistency has to suck for the players.

Last year our defense sucked until Withers made the switch to a 4-3. Our personnel certainly fit that scheme better. We then, did a pretty good job for the rest of the season.

What surprised me more than anything against Richmond was the lack of a halftime adjustment and not bringing the house some to try to hurry the QB. He literally had all day back there. It would be difficult to switch our base defense at this late date, but it could be done. Interestingly, Richmond ran the exact same defense as us Saturday. Between those two stellar defenses 1,300 yards was given up. Hello?

I hate a 3-4.

(10-26-2015 12:03 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  Last year our defense sucked until Withers made the switch to a 4-3. Our personnel certainly fit that scheme better. We then, did a pretty good job for the rest of the season.

What surprised me more than anything against Richmond was the lack of a halftime adjustment and not bringing the house some to try to hurry the QB. He literally had all day back there. It would be difficult to switch our base defense at this late date, but it could be done. Interestingly, Richmond ran the exact same defense as us Saturday. Between those two stellar defenses 1,300 yards was given up. Hello?

I hate a 3-4.

I was just thinking...didn't we go through this whole 3-4 vs 4-3 debate last year?

(10-26-2015 12:03 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  Last year our defense sucked until Withers made the switch to a 4-3. Our personnel certainly fit that scheme better. We then, did a pretty good job for the rest of the season.

What surprised me more than anything against Richmond was the lack of a halftime adjustment and not bringing the house some to try to hurry the QB. He literally had all day back there. It would be difficult to switch our base defense at this late date, but it could be done. Interestingly, Richmond ran the exact same defense as us Saturday. Between those two stellar defenses 1,300 yards was given up. Hello?

I hate a 3-4.

We do have a bye week after W&M. . .

After watching the press conference, Withers is clearly scared beyond belief that the system he was taught will not work with anything beyond pro level recruits or cannot fathom the system can fail. (I will give him credit, when a reporter does not know the questions he is going to ask or continually interjects non-speaking words, I would get a bit heated as well).

(10-26-2015 07:45 PM)CaryNCDuke Wrote:  After watching the press conference, Withers is clearly scared beyond belief that the system he was taught will not work with anything beyond pro level recruits or cannot fathom the system can fail. (I will give him credit, when a reporter does not know the questions he is going to ask or continually interjects non-speaking words, I would get a bit heated as well).

So upset he didn't wear JMU gear lol....jkn

Not a fan of the 3-4 either, but the thing that bothered me most about the game was that I didn't really see (to my untrained eye) us try anything different even though it clearly wasn't working. At least try and do something to make them one dimensional. Either blitz a ton or put 8 in the box and force them to throw. Maybe we'd still get gashed for big yardage and points, but there would be a better chance at forcing stops or turnovers.

Until this week, we seemed to be doing better on run D and putting pressure on the QBs.

I think we'll find that Richmond is a pretty talented team, that played a great game against us on Saturday. Where we are a pretty talented team, that took chances on defense, took some dumb penalties, and had several bad penalties go against us. Giving us an overall good game. In the end it was about a 10 point and a little over 100 yards difference.

A 3-4 might not fit our personnel, but I think match-ups play as important role as schemes in this. Richmond had 2 tall and physical receivers both capable of stretching the field, they had a QB who made most of the expected throws and reads, and they had a decent sized back. We really did not shut down any one of the 3 play makers and didn't do enough to disrupt the QB as point of attack. My concern would be going in, we would have had to have a game plan to stop that attack and it did not and at half - whatever adjustments, did little to slow the attack. This might be the game, for the coaching staff to wear the loss. But I am not certain it is just because of the scheme. From what I saw UR might have picked us apart worse if we stacked the box and the lone saving grace is that they had several receivers drop clean throws.

W&M and Delaware are run first teams - and in Delaware's case I am not sure there is much of a passing threat. I am hoping that the porous Run D was an anomaly and that we match up better next week.

(10-26-2015 08:32 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(10-26-2015 07:45 PM)CaryNCDuke Wrote:  After watching the press conference, Withers is clearly scared beyond belief that the system he was taught will not work with anything beyond pro level recruits or cannot fathom the system can fail. (I will give him credit, when a reporter does not know the questions he is going to ask or continually interjects non-speaking words, I would get a bit heated as well).

So upset he didn't wear JMU gear lol....jkn

not lol or jkn... all the talk about the vacant Illinois and UVA coaching jobs and EW comes out in orange??? Really poor timing, put some purple on. At least he got the memo about pepsico and showed up with aquafina.

i just re-watched the game, painfully so, but I really wanted to dissect what the crap went on.

I know everyone was harping on the dl, as they should, but there was alot of play action and mostly the ru qb was getting ball out quickly (yes there was a few times he had an eternity), but he played his best game, even after taking some good licks from our d. What I saw was blown coverage assignments time and time again - with the safties/corners/outside linebackers arguing with each other after the plays were over. they were simply lost out there (pass coverage looked like MM last season). One thing i noticed - in passing situations we kept subbing in brown for wellons and vice versa - but many the sub was late and they would not know what d was called... At the end of the first half, ru reciever definitely pushed off of browns hip to create the separation on his long catch (of course no call.... and the pi call on oliver to set up their easy fg was bs).

I like Curtis Oliver, i think he will be great, but like T. Reynolds this was a growing up game for him. What I do not understand is why wouldn't we adust and put T. Reynolds on diggs. Oliver was on diggs the entire game it seemed and was getting torched. ru knew our defensive zone coverage like a bill bellichek spy... i watched many of the ru 10-20 yard completions came on a corners release to a safety, but there there would be no safety, or they would throw an in right at our point of zone release and the safety would be 5 yards away from the receiver. safety needs to have better vision and get there.. not necessarily the corners fault, but ALSO the coaches should have been able to coach that up / make some adjustments and even mask our coverages with halftime adjustments..

With the outside linebacker on their heels from the passing game, the running yards just started gashing us. gage steele led team with tackles, unfortunately all the tackles were down hill, green and the ol wore us out.

Like everone else stated, the onside kick was a kick to the nether regions. really, really bad. i told my wife in the stands to watch out for the onside kick before it happened and alas, when we only had two people within 10 yards of the ball, it was a no brainer for them to execute. bad, bad, special teams coaching - hard to put that on the players who had no chance on that play becuase of our stupid formations - hell we even had the one guy tapering off from the line for the blocking scheme. wtf over?

lastly, officiating did not cost us this game. hoewever; it was painfully obvious that we got called for holding and ru in many cases did not. There were 2-3 big poormond runs sprung by what looked like holding - we got called for it, they didn't. One thing I will point out though, poormond's dl players are better coached because even on one play where we got called for holding.... our players hands were on the inside, but the poormond player sold it by flailing and acting like he was being held.... also, i dont understand how we continue to have 3-4 false starts per game now that we are mid season.... are we changing the count - we run plays so fast that we should just stick to a count or a silent count, something.. vad almost always bailed us out of those extra 5 penalty yards, but it has to stop, esp. against wm this week.

Special Teams- I simply can't understand why the on-side kick wasn't easily picked up by JMU. The previous TD by UR has a personal foul called where they had to kick off WAY back; so either way UR was giving up field position somewhere near 40 yard line for JMU. Any Special Teams coach should know THAT SCENARIO is the perfect time to try that play; small risk for similar outcome. Front line return guys rarely make blocks that spring runner loose. PLEASE don't give up turnover for little needed block 30 yards away from he ball; just watch the on-side kick! Ridiculous!