Boys do not know how to score. They don't have the right moves or confidence needed to perform. They ask for permission first rather taking what they want and setting the rules when playing. They get nervous and make mistakes when touching the football.

Real men know how to score and score a lot. They go on the offensive with the football and know the role of the tight end. Penetrating the red zone is never a problem. The quarterback moves the ball only when he has good protection. If protection breaks he instinctively knows to pull out of the pocket.

The list of Men and Boys among the contenders for this week:

Men
Memphis 66 Tulsa 42
Houston 59 UCF 10
Toledo 51 Massachusetts 35
Bowling Green 48 Kent State 0

Boys
Western Kentucky 20 LSU 48
Temple 24 ECU 14
Marshall 30 North Texas 13
Navy 31 Tulane 14
Appalachian St. 31 Georgia Southern 13
Boise St. 34 Wyoming 14

lol at you calling Temple a boy and not your idiot MAC team a boy. What a flaming homer you are. It's a shame that Temple controls their own destiny and Toledo doesn't. And sorry but Bowling Green now has basically NO shot. They aren't getting in over a 0,1,or 2 loss AAC champ- and that's what the AAC will have.... Sucks to be in the MAC.

coaches poll out- Houston has passed Toledo. Memphis now up to #16. Temple is at #22 and if they win this week- they too will pass Toledo.

(10-25-2015 11:32 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Boys do not know how to score. They don't have the right moves or confidence needed to perform. They ask for permission first rather taking what they want and setting the rules when playing. They get nervous and make mistakes when touching the football.

Real men know how to score and score a lot. They go on the offensive with the football and know the role of the tight end. Penetrating the red zone is never a problem. The quarterback moves the ball only when he has good protection. If protection breaks he instinctively knows to pull out of the pocket.

The list of Men and Boys among the contenders for this week:

Men
Memphis 66 Tulsa 42
Houston 59 UCF 10
Toledo 51 Massachusetts 35
Bowling Green 48 Kent State 0

Boys
Western Kentucky 20 LSU 48

Faulting WKU for losing to LSU? What would Memphis, Houston, Toledo, or Bowling Green have done?

....What?

Jeff Sagarin G5 Top 10 for 10/18

26 Memphis
30 Boise State
31 Houston
39 Toledo
45 Temple
50 Bowling Green
51 Navy
54 Western Kentucky
55 Appalachian State
58 Utah State

-Memphis has developed into the team to catch as they are now #1 in the polls and the computers. By almost any measure they are the front runner.

-Boise State didn't have great week beating Wyoming by 20 but they were given a gift by Utah State's collapse giving hope they could emerge again as a division leader.

-Bowling Green had a good week winning 48-0. They look like they have a solid shot when going against Toledo for a ranked win that would bolster the resume.

-Appalachian State is on the verge of winning their conference. They don't have much of a resume but with only 1 loss they have to be in the conversation.

At this point, it's the AAC's to lose and by a large margin. If Temple wins next week it'll probably seal the deal.

You basing your rankings on Sagarin makes you look like a clown honestly. It's apparent to everyone in the country that it's the AACs.

Coaches poll:

16. Memphis
19. Houston
22. Temple
31. Navy

Sagarin Top 5 schedules of autobid contenders:

Memphis (71)
Bowling Green (85)
Boise State (86)
Western Kentucky (89)
Navy (100)

-Memphis has the top Sagarin Rating and the top Sagarin SOS. That is hard to do because if you dominate your opponents it brings down your SOS.

-Bowling Green is the blue collar candidate in the G5 race. They don't have a national ranking but they've moved a heavy load YTD. Considering that Memphis is the front runner and they only lost to them by 3 points and BG is running away with their division its not over for the Falcons.

-Navy has a nice SOS but that is about the only place where it grades out in the Top 5 of the autobid contenders.

(10-25-2015 12:06 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  You basing your rankings on Sagarin makes you look like a clown honestly. It's apparent to everyone in the country that it's the AACs.

1)There is a lot of football to be played yet.

2)Sagarins aren't the the only source but it does provide some data for discussion.

(10-25-2015 12:17 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 12:06 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  You basing your rankings on Sagarin makes you look like a clown honestly. It's apparent to everyone in the country that it's the AACs.

1)There is a lot of football to be played yet.

2)Sagarins aren't the the only source but it does provide some data for discussion.

And I think we all know that polls are, well, not exactly infallible.

Kitton,

This foolishness is the exact reason we stopped using computers. The fact that you are using one and a bad one at that is making you look very stupid.

(10-25-2015 12:22 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 12:17 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 12:06 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  You basing your rankings on Sagarin makes you look like a clown honestly. It's apparent to everyone in the country that it's the AACs.

1)There is a lot of football to be played yet.

2)Sagarins aren't the the only source but it does provide some data for discussion.

And I think we all know that polls are, well, not exactly infallible.

The polls are far from perfect due to human bias but they beat computer logic.

(10-25-2015 12:25 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 12:22 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 12:17 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 12:06 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  You basing your rankings on Sagarin makes you look like a clown honestly. It's apparent to everyone in the country that it's the AACs.

1)There is a lot of football to be played yet.

2)Sagarins aren't the the only source but it does provide some data for discussion.

And I think we all know that polls are, well, not exactly infallible.

The polls are far from perfect due to human bias but they beat computer logic.

The fact is that neither is accurate enough to go by. It's simply arrogance to think you know which teams are the best when they don't play each other and in most cases they don't even have any common opponents. Just one of the reasons that college football is dysfunctional.

(10-25-2015 11:32 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Boys do not know how to score. They don't have the right moves or confidence needed to perform. They ask for permission first rather taking what they want and setting the rules when playing. They get nervous and make mistakes when touching the football.

Real men know how to score and score a lot. They go on the offensive with the football and know the role of the tight end. Penetrating the red zone is never a problem. The quarterback moves the ball only when he has good protection. If protection breaks he instinctively knows to pull out of the pocket.

The list of Men and Boys among the contenders for this week:

Men
Memphis 66 Tulsa 42
Toledo 51 Massachusetts 35

Giving up a combined 77 to Tulsa and UMass isn't "manlike!" Since when are we praising teams for having off night's on defense. Why must every game be a "shoot-out?"

(not knocking Memphis and Toledo for winning, knocking the OP's premise.)

(10-25-2015 12:28 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 12:25 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 12:22 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 12:17 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 12:06 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  You basing your rankings on Sagarin makes you look like a clown honestly. It's apparent to everyone in the country that it's the AACs.

1)There is a lot of football to be played yet.

2)Sagarins aren't the the only source but it does provide some data for discussion.

And I think we all know that polls are, well, not exactly infallible.

The polls are far from perfect due to human bias but they beat computer logic.

The fact is that neither is accurate enough to go by. It's simply arrogance to think you know which teams are the best when they don't play each other and in most cases they don't even have any common opponents. Just one of the reasons that college football is dysfunctional.

I agree but fact is a human can eyeball that Temple may not be as good as ND. What is wrong with FBS is that we don't have an 8 team playoff.

(10-25-2015 12:32 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 11:32 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Boys do not know how to score. They don't have the right moves or confidence needed to perform. They ask for permission first rather taking what they want and setting the rules when playing. They get nervous and make mistakes when touching the football.

Real men know how to score and score a lot. They go on the offensive with the football and know the role of the tight end. Penetrating the red zone is never a problem. The quarterback moves the ball only when he has good protection. If protection breaks he instinctively knows to pull out of the pocket.

The list of Men and Boys among the contenders for this week:

Men
Memphis 66 Tulsa 42
Toledo 51 Massachusetts 35

Giving up a combined 77 to Tulsa and UMass isn't "manlike!" Since when are we praising teams for having off night's on defense. Why must every game be a "shoot-out?"

(not knocking Memphis and Toledo for winning, knocking the OP's premise.)

It's the only way he can justify not saying "the AAC is doing great. It's theirs to lose."

(10-25-2015 12:45 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 12:28 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 12:25 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 12:22 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 12:17 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  1)There is a lot of football to be played yet.

2)Sagarins aren't the the only source but it does provide some data for discussion.

And I think we all know that polls are, well, not exactly infallible.

The polls are far from perfect due to human bias but they beat computer logic.

The fact is that neither is accurate enough to go by. It's simply arrogance to think you know which teams are the best when they don't play each other and in most cases they don't even have any common opponents. Just one of the reasons that college football is dysfunctional.

I agree but fact is a human can eyeball that Temple may not be as good as ND. What is wrong with FBS is that we don't have an 8 team playoff.

That would be a good start, certainly.

Contenders Check in for 10/25:

American Athletic
Memphis 7-0 (W 55-23 Kansas, W 37-34 #13 Mississippi, 11/14 #18 Houston, 11/21 #21 Temple)
Temple 7-0 (W 27-10 Penn State, 10/31 #9 Notre Dame, 11/21 #16 Memphis)
Houston 7-0 (W 34-31 Louisville, 11/14 #16 Memphis)
Navy 5-1 (L 41-24 #15 Notre Dame, 11/7 #16 Memphis, 11/27 #18 Houston)

Mid American
Toledo 7-0 (W 16-12 #18 Arkansas, W 30-23 Iowa State)
Bowling Green 6-2 (W 48-27 Maryland, W 35-28 Purdue, L 59-30 #25 Tennessee, 11/17 #20 Toledo)

Conference USA
Marshall 7-1 (W 41-31 Purdue)
Western Kentucky 6-2 (W 14-12 Vanderbilt, L #5 48-20 Louisiana State)

Sun Belt
Appalachian State 6-1 (L 42-10 #12 Clemson)

Mountain West
Boise State 5-2 (W 16-13 Washington, W 56-10 Virginia)

The Top 5 contenders at this point for the autobid.

1) Memphis 7-0 (W 55-23 Kansas, W 37-34 #13 Mississippi, 11/14 #18 Houston, 11/21 #21 Temple)
2) Toledo 7-0 (W 16-12 #18 Arkansas, W 30-23 Iowa State)
3) Temple 7-0 (W 27-10 Penn State, 10/31 #9 Notre Dame, 11/21 #16 Memphis)
4) Bowling Green 6-2 (W 48-27 Maryland, W 35-28 Purdue, L 59-30 #25 Tennessee, 11/17 #20 Toledo)
5) Houston 7-0 (W 34-31 Louisville, 11/14 #16 Memphis)

-At this moment I just have the AAC and MAC in contention for the autobid. Boise State has 2 losses and is not in control of their division. Appalachian State only has one loss and they have no resume aside from playing Clemson. Marshall has the lowest SOS of all contenders and plays in the same division as Western Kentucky.

-Houston doesn't lead its division and doesn't have much of a resume BUT they have a win over Louisville which is better than anything Marshall, Navy, App St or WKU has.

-Bowling Green is #2 in schedule, has 2 P5 wins and leads its division. They do have 2 losses but as far as YTD resume they are #3 topped only by Toledo and Memphis.

-Temple leads its division, is undefeated and has the most potential with Notre Dame and Memphis yet on the schedule. There are a few questions about Temple. First will they be able to act on their potential.

Secondly they may lose to Notre Dame and Memphis only to win the AAC Championship with a 2 loss record. That would open the door for Toledo should they win the MAC to pick up the G5 autobid.

-Toledo is far from a shoe-in to win the MAC despite their high ranking. They have 4 tough games coming up in NIU, CMU, BGSU and WMU. WMU is undefeated in the MAC and NIU/CMU only have 1 loss each. Toledo is facing a challenge within their own division and then a challenge for the MAC championship with BGSU the two time defending East champion.

(10-25-2015 12:47 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  It's the only way he can justify not saying "the AAC is doing great. It's theirs to lose."

There are 2 questions to ask here:

1) Do I think the AAC will come away with the G5 autobid this year?

A: Yes. Memphis and Houston are proving their hot starts aren't a fluke by taking care of business in the AAC. I thought it was way too early to tell the first 3-4 weeks but they've continued to show up.

2) Do I want to stop tracking 0,1,2 loss teams from the MAC, MWC, SBC, CUSA

A: No. The purpose of my spotlight is track all Group of Five conferences no matter how small the chances are of securing the autobid. The chance of any of them representing outside the AAC this year is small BUT for each school that bites the dust the remaining schools gain in probability.

Boise and App State got a big boost this week with chances of winning their division up significantly. WKU didn't deliver on its big chance against LSU. None of them are among the Top 5 contenders but they could be if schools in the Top 5 drop enough games.