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The Dozen Biggest Misconceptions in B12 Realignment Talk
Blogger talks about things that he considers misconceptions that are often pushed forward in realignment talk as viable and even likely possibilities to trigger conference movement. Has interesting take on things IMHO
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RE: The Dozen Biggest Misconceptions in B12 Realignment Talk
(10-21-2015 02:15 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote: Blogger talks about things that he considers misconceptions that are often pushed forward in realignment talk as viable and even likely possibilities to trigger conference movement. Has interesting take on things IMHO
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I read his list.........most posters on this board are more knowledgeable.
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RE: The Dozen Biggest Misconceptions in B12 Realignment Talk
He needed to add one more item. All that matters is what the expansion committee/TV Partners/Presidents want to
do. They need a conference network and seemingly with the Longhorn Network that is impossible, as well as needing
more teams for content.
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RE: The Dozen Biggest Misconceptions in B12 Realignment Talk
(10-21-2015 02:20 PM)XLance Wrote: (10-21-2015 02:15 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote: Blogger talks about things that he considers misconceptions that are often pushed forward in realignment talk as viable and even likely possibilities to trigger conference movement. Has interesting take on things IMHO
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I read his list.........most posters on this board are more knowledgeable.
That's debatable. Let's readdress this in a decade or so, and we'll have a better idea as to who is more knowledgeable.
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RE: The Dozen Biggest Misconceptions in B12 Realignment Talk
These seem like very UH-centric perspectives.
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RE: The Dozen Biggest Misconceptions in B12 Realignment Talk
Obviously these are all wrong cuz they dont confirm NIU to the B12...
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RE: The Dozen Biggest Misconceptions in B12 Realignment Talk
(10-21-2015 02:40 PM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote: These seem like very UH-centric perspectives.
The author did admit to being a fan of Houston. So what else is new?
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RE: The Dozen Biggest Misconceptions in B12 Realignment Talk
Brett McMurphy reiterated just recently that the B12 will not go West, and he's been saying it since day one.
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RE: The Dozen Biggest Misconceptions in B12 Realignment Talk
(10-21-2015 04:12 PM)jaredf29 Wrote: Brett McMurphy reiterated just recently that the B12 will not go West, and he's been saying it since day one.
And they also said no more Texas schools as well. 4 is enough. 5 is a crowd.
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RE: The Dozen Biggest Misconceptions in B12 Realignment Talk
(10-21-2015 04:12 PM)jaredf29 Wrote: Brett McMurphy reiterated just recently that the B12 will not go West, and he's been saying it since day one.
Where did he do it?
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RE: The Dozen Biggest Misconceptions in B12 Realignment Talk
The biggest misconception about B1G realignment talk are the crazies on message boards thinking Presidents of major universities are going to self voluntarily vote themselves out of a conference affiliation. And under a GOR a school isn't going to just get out of their chair and walk away...lol.
People on landthieves have been saying they are leaving soon for years and years and it is always the same posters saying it.
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RE: The Dozen Biggest Misconceptions in B12 Realignment Talk
(10-21-2015 04:12 PM)jaredf29 Wrote: Brett McMurphy reiterated just recently that the B12 will not go West, and he's been saying it since day one.
Brett McMurphy knows as much about Big 12 alignment as Greg Flagaur. He knows less than the Dude.
He may be one of the first to report an actual expansion when it happens, but McMurphy is the kind of media personality the Big 12 insiders love to give feeler information - to help get the media's and public's reaction to certain ideas, concepts, and potential moves.
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RE: The Dozen Biggest Misconceptions in B12 Realignment Talk
"The Gentlemen's Agreement" that is so oft mis-cited that it has become an internet myth, was for the SEC schools with in state rivals not to nominate their in state rival for membership until two new states had been added to the footprint (positions 13 & 14) because those were needed to open the existing contract for renegotiation. The reason Mike Slive asked for such was because both Florida and South Carolina were concerned that if their in state rivals were not part of the SEC that growing conferences might make it even harder to keep their in state rivals scheduled and both schools rely on the ticket priority for those games to generate substantial donations to their schools.
ESPN simply refused to pay for F.S.U. & Clemson's inclusion in the SEC. There was no agreement to exclude them at all, only the promise of no additional money from ESPN if we tried to add them. The net result is that the SEC won't make those additions, but certainly not for the oft quoted internet myth as to the tri state agreement to block.
Stop and think about that. How many governors and state legislators would look favorably upon one of their state schools preventing another from maximizing revenue? The answer is none. The black ball crap is just fan boy internet taunts.
The simple truth is that ESPN wants to park new acquisitions in the SEC and ACC and that is the beginning and end of the story.
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RE: The Dozen Biggest Misconceptions in B12 Realignment Talk
(10-21-2015 06:43 PM)JRsec Wrote: The simple truth is that ESPN wants to park new acquisitions in the SEC and ACC and that is the beginning and end of the story.
If Mickey allows them. Disney is currently cutting eSPIN off at the knees.
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RE: The Dozen Biggest Misconceptions in B12 Realignment Talk
(10-21-2015 06:14 PM)YNot Wrote: (10-21-2015 04:12 PM)jaredf29 Wrote: Brett McMurphy reiterated just recently that the B12 will not go West, and he's been saying it since day one.
Brett McMurphy knows as much about Big 12 alignment as Greg Flagaur. He knows less than the Dude.
He may be one of the first to report an actual expansion when it happens, but McMurphy is the kind of media personality the Big 12 insiders love to give feeler information - to help get the media's and public's reaction to certain ideas, concepts, and potential moves.
No, he knows more than about anybody. You just don't like what he said. And he is 100% right that the Big 12 does not intend to go west. There are lots of direct quotes that confirm that.
Personally, I think they will change their mind when they consider the alternatives. But they really want to go only east.
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RE: The Dozen Biggest Misconceptions in B12 Realignment Talk
(10-21-2015 07:52 PM)bitcruncher Wrote: (10-21-2015 06:43 PM)JRsec Wrote: The simple truth is that ESPN wants to park new acquisitions in the SEC and ACC and that is the beginning and end of the story.
If Mickey allows them. Disney is currently cutting eSPIN off at the knees.
When what they cut are the bloviating talking heads which they have in painful abundance then I say well done Mouse. If they cut content that's another matter. I wish someone would cut the bloviating talking heads on Capitol Hill. That would be a step toward a better economic future for us all. So much talk, so little to show for it.
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RE: The Dozen Biggest Misconceptions in B12 Realignment Talk
(10-21-2015 08:04 PM)JRsec Wrote: (10-21-2015 07:52 PM)bitcruncher Wrote: (10-21-2015 06:43 PM)JRsec Wrote: The simple truth is that ESPN wants to park new acquisitions in the SEC and ACC and that is the beginning and end of the story.
If Mickey allows them. Disney is currently cutting eSPIN off at the knees.
When what they cut are the bloviating talking heads which they have in painful abundance then I say well done Mouse. If they cut content that's another matter. I wish someone would cut the bloviating talking heads on Capitol Hill. That would be a step toward a better economic future for us all. So much talk, so little to show for it.
The bloated talking heads they fired were the ones who were the most opinionated, ignored events that were going on, and creating an environment detrimental to those schools and conferences that didn't fit their idea of the perfect college environment. If the ones remaining keep up that tenor, they'll be the ones hit in the next wave of layoffs.
So don't count your chickens just yet.
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RE: The Dozen Biggest Misconceptions in B12 Realignment Talk
Any post on these issues may be the most logical thing ever, but remember: nothing will ever explain why the ACC preferred a part of Appalachia in Kentucky, the rolling hills of Western Pa (not even all of WPA, but maybe half of it, other part belongs to PSU), a burg in central NY, the town of Newton, MA, over the much more lucrative properties out there. I know Rutgers is awful but grabbing podunk towns for your conference while the B1G is snapping up Maryland, NJ, most of PA, and a slice of of NYC, that's what I call illogical and idiotic.
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RE: The Dozen Biggest Misconceptions in B12 Realignment Talk
(10-21-2015 08:20 PM)upstater1 Wrote: Any post on these issues may be the most logical thing ever, but remember: nothing will ever explain why the ACC preferred a part of Appalachia in Kentucky, the rolling hills of Western Pa (not even all of WPA, but maybe half of it, other part belongs to PSU), a burg in central NY, the town of Newton, MA, over the much more lucrative properties out there. I know Rutgers is awful but grabbing podunk towns for your conference while the B1G is snapping up Maryland, NJ, most of PA, and a slice of of NYC, that's what I call illogical and idiotic.
Markets mean nothing if nobody watches. THAT is what I call illogical.
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RE: The Dozen Biggest Misconceptions in B12 Realignment Talk
(10-21-2015 04:57 PM)bullet Wrote: (10-21-2015 04:12 PM)jaredf29 Wrote: Brett McMurphy reiterated just recently that the B12 will not go West, and he's been saying it since day one.
Where did he do it?
http://www.espn929.com/pages/21786932.ph...d=17618265
“The only thing I know for certain is that the Big 12 does not want to expand west. I’ve said that 100 times and I’ll say it 100 more. I know everybody talks about BYU, but everyone I talk to, all my sources, they tell me BYU is not an option. So then the question is, if the Big 12 does expand, who are the two teams they go toward?”
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