Gunner Kiel is upset at having lost his University of Cincinnati quarterback job, and Kiel has let UC coach Tommy Tuberville know it.

Tuberville, speaking at his weekly media luncheon Tuesday at UC's Richard E. Lindner Center, said he understands how Kiel feels.

“He’s been in my office asking, ‘Coach, what have I got to do?’ ” Tuberville said. “But he’s been a team player. He’s been behind Hayden (Moore). They’re good friends.”

Former starter Kiel, a junior, was medically cleared last week after returning from a neck injury. But, redshirt freshman Moore drew the start for UC’s 38-24 loss at Brigham Young University.

Kiel, through UC football media director Ryan Koslen, declined interview requests Tuesday.

It remains unclear whether Kiel or Moore will start when UC (3-3, 0-2 American Athletic Conference East) plays host to Connecticut (3-4, 1-2 AAC East) on Saturday at 4:30 p.m.







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Tuberville said that Kiel and Moore share snaps with both the first and second teams this week. The UC staff will decide late Wednesday or early Thursday who starts this week, Tuberville said.

Kiel started every UC game in 2014 and started the first four games this year. Kiel was knocked out of UC’s game against the Miami RedHawks on Sept. 19 with a head/shoulder injury. Moore eventually led a game-clinching touchdown drive in a 37-33 win.

Kiel returned to start at Memphis on Sept. 24, but he was carted off during the first quarter after a hard hit to the head. UC later termed it a neck injury.

The recuperating Kiel did not dress for UC’s next game against the Miami Hurricanes on Oct. 1, when Moore directed a 34-23 upset win.

UC then had an open date before playing at BYU. Kiel was cleared to play but, with Moore having the edge in preparation time, Moore got the start.

Moore has had his ups and downs. Included were a UC record 557 yards passing in the 53-46 loss at Memphis, then the upset of the Hurricanes. At BYU, Moore was sacked eight times and went 15-for-30 passing for 219 yards, with no TDs or interceptions.







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“I’ve got to be able to see my receivers and throw the ball faster,” Moore said after the BYU game.

Kiel watched the BYU game from the sidelines in full uniform, wearing a baseball hat.

Kiel this year has thrown five touchdown passes and five interceptions in 70 attempts, with Tuberville especially bothered by the turnovers. That is one reason Tuberville has given Moore some extra leash, with Moore having thrown only one interception during his two starts. Moore overall has seven TD passes and five interceptions (83 attempts).

Kiel entered the year as the unquestioned starter, and Tuberville is glad to see the incumbent fighting for his job.

“That’s what you want, a guy that’s really competitive,” Tuberville said. “I don’t want somebody that takes no for an answer. … He just wants that chance. He wants the ball in his hand. He wants to shoot that 3-pointer at the buzzer.”

So, what now?

“We’re in a great situation, not in a good position,” Tuberville said. “It’s hard to put it like that, because you’ve got two guys that I think can really get the job done. Both of them are very similar. One’s got more experience, though. The other one is probably a little bit more athletic. That’s the difference in them right now.”

UC players said they just roll with whoever calls the signals. They already knew what Kiel can do, and now they know about Moore.

“I have faith in both of those guys,” senior left tackle Parker Ehinger said. “Hayden has got my faith now. Even though things didn’t turn out the way we wanted against BYU, I still trust him. He’s handled it like an older guy.”

I'd go back with Kiel personally. I like Moore but I don't think he played that well against BYU. I thought he struggled with his pocket presence. Not that it is a big surprise considering he's just a freshman. You sort of expect that.

(10-21-2015 12:58 PM)Marcus Wrote:  I'd go back with Kiel personally. I like Moore but I don't think he played that well against BYU. I thought he struggled with his pocket presence. Not that it is a big surprise considering he's just a freshman. You sort of expect that.

I respect you football opinions, and agree. Let Kiel start.

I didn't want Kiel to start against BYU purely because he was only cleared for like 3 days. Being cleared by the doctors and being ready to play are two different things.

Now that Kiel has a little more time to fully heal after being cleared by the doctor, and have taken additional reps with this week, I think Kiel should get the nod. Hopefully the three weeks not being able to play allowed him to watch a lot of film and improve his game.

(10-21-2015 12:58 PM)Marcus Wrote:  I'd go back with Kiel personally. I like Moore but I don't think he played that well against BYU. I thought he struggled with his pocket presence. Not that it is a big surprise considering he's just a freshman. You sort of expect that.

Yeah Moore held the ball so dam long on some of those sacks. Ball has to come out faster, or he can run. Kid is a good athlete.

(10-21-2015 01:50 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 12:58 PM)Marcus Wrote:  I'd go back with Kiel personally. I like Moore but I don't think he played that well against BYU. I thought he struggled with his pocket presence. Not that it is a big surprise considering he's just a freshman. You sort of expect that.

Yeah Moore held the ball so dam long on some of those sacks. Ball has to come out faster, or he can run. Kid is a good athlete.

Totally agree.

I think if Tubbs held Gunner out to heal more, he should now be inserted back into the starting line up. There should be no Pipping going on, as it could negatively effect the locker room. On the 24\7 board, Tim asked Tubbs about not burning time outs after punting. Tubbs would only answer off the record. What kind of journalists work in that town, that no one has asked this question along with why we punted? Why is Tubbs seemingly always getting a pass on this stuff?

I would have hated to see Kiel have to face that pass rush with his injuries already this season. I would kind of like to see him this week ,however (Just, PLEASE, no called QB running plays with Gunner).

(10-21-2015 02:02 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  I think if Tubbs held Gunner out to heal more, he should now be inserted back into the starting line up. There should be no Pipping going on, as it could negatively effect the locker room. On the 24\7 board, Tim asked Tubbs about not burning time outs after punting. Tubbs would only answer off the record. What kind of journalists work in that town, that no one has asked this question along with why we punted? Why is Tubbs seemingly always getting a pass on this stuff?

If the media likes you they will give you a pass. If you are Marvin, Dusty or Huggs they do their best to burn you at the stake.

(10-21-2015 02:03 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  I would have hated to see Kiel have to face that pass rush with his injuries already this season. I would kind of like to see him this week ,however (Just, PLEASE, no called QB running plays with Gunner).

Bruce, dam near all of injuries have been in pocket or escaping the pocket, not on called
running plays...although Memphis was a called play. But yeah I hope he can sling while being protected well.

(10-21-2015 02:02 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  I think if Tubbs held Gunner out to heal more, he should now be inserted back into the starting line up. There should be no Pipping going on, as it could negatively effect the locker room. On the 24\7 board, Tim asked Tubbs about not burning time outs after punting. Tubbs would only answer off the record. What kind of journalists work in that town, that no one has asked this question along with why we punted? Why is Tubbs seemingly always getting a pass on this stuff?

???? 75% of the people who post here seem to want Tubbs fired. What pass are you talking about?

(10-21-2015 02:04 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 02:02 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  I think if Tubbs held Gunner out to heal more, he should now be inserted back into the starting line up. There should be no Pipping going on, as it could negatively effect the locker room. On the 24\7 board, Tim asked Tubbs about not burning time outs after punting. Tubbs would only answer off the record. What kind of journalists work in that town, that no one has asked this question along with why we punted? Why is Tubbs seemingly always getting a pass on this stuff?

If the media likes you they will give you a pass. If you are Marvin, Dusty or Huggs they do their best to burn you at the stake.

Let's be honest. We are lucky we have media covering the press conference let alone asking probing questions. Not counting Tim Adams, we probably had 6-7 people show up from the traditional media (TV, radio, newspaper) and most of them are just not truly invested in UC football. I am surprised someone didn't ask him what he thought about the Bengals being 6-0 or if he thought J.T. Barrett should get the start over Cardale Jones.

Regardless of who was playing QB in the BYU game, neither would have had any success from mid 3rd qtr and the 4th, the Oline was completely gassed by then. Gran did not adjust to combat against BYU's pass rush - no quick/hot passes, screens or draw plays. Gunner would've been eaten up just as much as Moore - I suspect the reason Moore held onto the ball longer than he should have was the staff told him to eat it instead of turning the ball over. I'm more concerned that the Oline was manhandled by a four man rush the entire second half - not good for whoever plays QB. IMO, start Gunner, if he comes out cold and sloppy - make the change. Also, enough with the sideline passing game, use the seams - UC's receivers have been tearing it up all season.

(10-21-2015 02:37 PM)FLIP Wrote:  Regardless of who was playing QB in the BYU game, neither would have had any success from mid 3rd qtr and the 4th, the Oline was completely gassed by then. Gran did not adjust to combat against BYU's pass rush - no quick/hot passes, screens or draw plays. Gunner would've been eaten up just as much as Moore - I suspect the reason Moore held onto the ball longer than he should have was the staff told him to eat it instead of turning the ball over. I'm more concerned that the Oline was manhandled by a four man rush the entire second half - not good for whoever plays QB. IMO, start Gunner, if he comes out cold and sloppy - make the change. Also, enough with the sideline passing game, use the seams - UC's receivers have been tearing it up all season.

totally agree. I felt like we did more of this against Miami (FL) with great success. Not sure what happened against BYU. It was hard to tell what was happening on all the sack plays so I couldn't figure out if we were running some of those routes and Moore just got happy feet or if he just wasn't trusting his reads. But whatever we were doing wasn't working.

I thought Moore clearly got happy feet and didn't trust the play. He's a freshman. He has great talent and is going to be a big time Bearcat in two years, but I think Kiel is the better option. Wish we'd have gone to him early 2nd half last week as after the first couple drives I thought more just didn't look comfortable. I hope Kiel is back and glad to see he is very competitive about this.

It's too late in the season to have a QB controversy. Kiel earned the spot and should start the rest of the season, as long as he's healthy. CTT should not let this continue.

(10-21-2015 02:13 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 02:02 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  I think if Tubbs held Gunner out to heal more, he should now be inserted back into the starting line up. There should be no Pipping going on, as it could negatively effect the locker room. On the 24\7 board, Tim asked Tubbs about not burning time outs after punting. Tubbs would only answer off the record. What kind of journalists work in that town, that no one has asked this question along with why we punted? Why is Tubbs seemingly always getting a pass on this stuff?

???? 75% of the people who post here seem to want Tubbs fired. What pass are you talking about?

I clearly typed journalists, not anonymous internet message board posters.

(10-21-2015 03:21 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 02:13 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 02:02 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  I think if Tubbs held Gunner out to heal more, he should now be inserted back into the starting line up. There should be no Pipping going on, as it could negatively effect the locker room. On the 24\7 board, Tim asked Tubbs about not burning time outs after punting. Tubbs would only answer off the record. What kind of journalists work in that town, that no one has asked this question along with why we punted? Why is Tubbs seemingly always getting a pass on this stuff?

???? 75% of the people who post here seem to want Tubbs fired. What pass are you talking about?

I clearly typed journalists, not anonymous internet message board posters.

So the question was asked (no pass given) and Tubbs declined to answer it? You think
Tim should have said, I want an answer? LOL, no more access to the coaching staff, players and practices. As Clifton Ave said we are lucky for the coverage we get, because we used to get next to nothing.

(10-21-2015 04:00 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 03:21 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 02:13 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 02:02 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  I think if Tubbs held Gunner out to heal more, he should now be inserted back into the starting line up. There should be no Pipping going on, as it could negatively effect the locker room. On the 24\7 board, Tim asked Tubbs about not burning time outs after punting. Tubbs would only answer off the record. What kind of journalists work in that town, that no one has asked this question along with why we punted? Why is Tubbs seemingly always getting a pass on this stuff?

???? 75% of the people who post here seem to want Tubbs fired. What pass are you talking about?

I clearly typed journalists, not anonymous internet message board posters.

So the question was asked (no pass given) and Tubbs declined to answer it? You think
Tim should have said, I want an answer? LOL, no more access to the coaching staff, players and practices. As Clifton Ave said we are lucky for the coverage we get, because we used to get next to nothing.

I do not blame Tim, as he needs access, I'm wondering about the Enquirer, WLW, etc. Seems they used to pounce on stuff like this to portray UC in a negative light, did not realize apathy had set in. Lucky for the coverage? If you want more maybe you call in, or email whoever covers the team.

(10-21-2015 04:04 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 04:00 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 03:21 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 02:13 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 02:02 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  I think if Tubbs held Gunner out to heal more, he should now be inserted back into the starting line up. There should be no Pipping going on, as it could negatively effect the locker room. On the 24\7 board, Tim asked Tubbs about not burning time outs after punting. Tubbs would only answer off the record. What kind of journalists work in that town, that no one has asked this question along with why we punted? Why is Tubbs seemingly always getting a pass on this stuff?

???? 75% of the people who post here seem to want Tubbs fired. What pass are you talking about?

I clearly typed journalists, not anonymous internet message board posters.

So the question was asked (no pass given) and Tubbs declined to answer it? You think
Tim should have said, I want an answer? LOL, no more access to the coaching staff, players and practices. As Clifton Ave said we are lucky for the coverage we get, because we used to get next to nothing.

I do not blame Tim, as he needs access, I'm wondering about the Enquirer, WLW, etc. Seems they used to pounce on stuff like this to portray UC in a negative light, did not realize apathy had set in. Lucky for the coverage? If you want more maybe you call in, or email whoever covers the team.

Email or call them as to why the did not pounce on punting the ball, IDK.