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RE: Consent?
(10-21-2015 09:30 AM)CliftonAve Wrote: (10-21-2015 09:01 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: I don't think that is quite what it is saying.
The idea that a drunk person can't consent is fairly mainstream.
If it was two guys you could write the poster with the exact same wording, minus names of course but then again that's probably sexist or something.
What about if it was the other way around? I can recall once getting lucky with a young lady when I was smashed. She didn't have a drink beforehand. You think anyone would be sympathetic to my cause if I cried rape the next day?
The heck with sympathy. If her father had money, you missed an opportunity for an out of court settlement score.
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RE: Consent?
(10-21-2015 10:55 AM)stinkfist Wrote: (10-21-2015 10:14 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (10-21-2015 10:11 AM)stinkfist Wrote: (10-21-2015 09:34 AM)vandiver49 Wrote: (10-21-2015 09:27 AM)Fitbud Wrote: I've always hated this double standard.
Very few women share your position.
it's why you only go after ho's when you're broke (hs/college)....you pay for 'em once you start making cash or 'court' the one you want to marry (lol, I got to use "court")
at some point....guys are going to just go with the robotic sex doll and tell the flesh to fk off
when that happens, look out.....you think women are crazy now???......wait until that happens....
Or 3rd world po tang, big fan of it myself.
I made 15 trips to TJ.....if you ever have to go, stay at the pueblo amigo.....you won't be disappointed....they line up for you....and it's 50 ft from the hotel entrance.....
I can still hear in that high pitched voice, "you can feenish baby, you can feenish baby" .....lmao
Where is that?
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RE: Consent?
The level of intoxication dictates this. Plenty of people are perfectly capable of consensual sex while very intoxicated. Obviously if you bang a chick that is damn near passed out...you have a problem.
Hell...I found the drunk chicks were often times extremely aggressive sexually. I don't know what more consent is needed.
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RE: Consent?
(10-21-2015 11:24 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: The level of intoxication dictates this. Plenty of people are perfectly capable of consensual sex while very intoxicated. Obviously if you bang a chick that is damn near passed out...you have a problem.
Good post. If two people are pretty equally shaq-faced how in the hell can you hold one more culpable than the other? Unless that is you're willing to dump this whole "men and women should be treated the same in all things" shtick.
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RE: Consent?
(10-21-2015 11:24 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: The level of intoxication dictates this. Plenty of people are perfectly capable of consensual sex while very intoxicated. Obviously if you bang a chick that is damn near passed out...you have a problem.
Hell...I found the drunk chicks were often times extremely aggressive sexually. I don't know what more consent is needed.
Agreed.
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RE: Consent?
(10-21-2015 11:07 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (10-21-2015 10:55 AM)stinkfist Wrote: (10-21-2015 10:14 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (10-21-2015 10:11 AM)stinkfist Wrote: (10-21-2015 09:34 AM)vandiver49 Wrote: Very few women share your position.
it's why you only go after ho's when you're broke (hs/college)....you pay for 'em once you start making cash or 'court' the one you want to marry (lol, I got to use "court")
at some point....guys are going to just go with the robotic sex doll and tell the flesh to fk off
when that happens, look out.....you think women are crazy now???......wait until that happens....
Or 3rd world po tang, big fan of it myself.
I made 15 trips to TJ.....if you ever have to go, stay at the pueblo amigo.....you won't be disappointed....they line up for you....and it's 50 ft from the hotel entrance.....
I can still hear in that high pitched voice, "you can feenish baby, you can feenish baby" .....lmao
Where is that?
Tijuana.....this amigo quickly dubbed it TJ
edit: there's a titty bar about a sand wedge away too....casino downstairs now (that was '07 when they put that in)....it was hedonistic heaven....I always spent more than I made those weeks
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RE: Consent?
(10-21-2015 12:18 PM)mturn017 Wrote: (10-21-2015 11:24 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: The level of intoxication dictates this. Plenty of people are perfectly capable of consensual sex while very intoxicated. Obviously if you bang a chick that is damn near passed out...you have a problem.
Hell...I found the drunk chicks were often times extremely aggressive sexually. I don't know what more consent is needed.
Agreed.
biting and clawing is easily 'on limits' in that arena.....
it's fun being a sadomasochist.....
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RE: Consent?
(10-21-2015 12:32 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (10-21-2015 11:07 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (10-21-2015 10:55 AM)stinkfist Wrote: (10-21-2015 10:14 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (10-21-2015 10:11 AM)stinkfist Wrote: it's why you only go after ho's when you're broke (hs/college)....you pay for 'em once you start making cash or 'court' the one you want to marry (lol, I got to use "court")
at some point....guys are going to just go with the robotic sex doll and tell the flesh to fk off
when that happens, look out.....you think women are crazy now???......wait until that happens....
Or 3rd world po tang, big fan of it myself.
I made 15 trips to TJ.....if you ever have to go, stay at the pueblo amigo.....you won't be disappointed....they line up for you....and it's 50 ft from the hotel entrance.....
I can still hear in that high pitched voice, "you can feenish baby, you can feenish baby" .....lmao
Where is that?
Tijuana.....this amigo quickly dubbed it TJ
edit: there's a titty bar about a sand wedge away too....casino downstairs now (that was '07 when they put that in)....it was hedonistic heaven....I always spent more than I made those weeks
That is what I thought. I would not go there today though.
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RE: Consent?
(10-21-2015 12:57 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (10-21-2015 12:32 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (10-21-2015 11:07 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (10-21-2015 10:55 AM)stinkfist Wrote: (10-21-2015 10:14 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: Or 3rd world po tang, big fan of it myself.
I made 15 trips to TJ.....if you ever have to go, stay at the pueblo amigo.....you won't be disappointed....they line up for you....and it's 50 ft from the hotel entrance.....
I can still hear in that high pitched voice, "you can feenish baby, you can feenish baby" .....lmao
Where is that?
Tijuana.....this amigo quickly dubbed it TJ
edit: there's a titty bar about a sand wedge away too....casino downstairs now (that was '07 when they put that in)....it was hedonistic heaven....I always spent more than I made those weeks
That is what I thought. I would not go there today though.
the cartel had already started kidnapping amigos when I was there.....hell, I watched the federales take the guns from the policia it was so bad......no way in hell I would ever go back to that shitehole.....but I survived those 15 mos (I went for a week, once a mo.) and it was a kick in the arse....
this is why the opening phrase stated, "if you ever have to go...."
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RE: Consent?
(10-21-2015 01:19 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (10-21-2015 12:57 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (10-21-2015 12:32 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (10-21-2015 11:07 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (10-21-2015 10:55 AM)stinkfist Wrote: I made 15 trips to TJ.....if you ever have to go, stay at the pueblo amigo.....you won't be disappointed....they line up for you....and it's 50 ft from the hotel entrance.....
I can still hear in that high pitched voice, "you can feenish baby, you can feenish baby" .....lmao
Where is that?
Tijuana.....this amigo quickly dubbed it TJ
edit: there's a titty bar about a sand wedge away too....casino downstairs now (that was '07 when they put that in)....it was hedonistic heaven....I always spent more than I made those weeks
That is what I thought. I would not go there today though.
the cartel had already started kidnapping amigos when I was there.....hell, I watched the federales take the guns from the policia it was so bad......no way in hell I would ever go back to that shitehole.....but I survived those 15 mos (I went for a week, once a mo.) and it was a kick in the arse....
this is why the opening phrase stated, "if you ever have to go...."
Still going ongoing. Mexico is sh it hole.
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RE: Consent?
(10-21-2015 01:35 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (10-21-2015 01:19 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (10-21-2015 12:57 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (10-21-2015 12:32 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (10-21-2015 11:07 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: Where is that?
Tijuana.....this amigo quickly dubbed it TJ
edit: there's a titty bar about a sand wedge away too....casino downstairs now (that was '07 when they put that in)....it was hedonistic heaven....I always spent more than I made those weeks
That is what I thought. I would not go there today though.
the cartel had already started kidnapping amigos when I was there.....hell, I watched the federales take the guns from the policia it was so bad......no way in hell I would ever go back to that shitehole.....but I survived those 15 mos (I went for a week, once a mo.) and it was a kick in the arse....
this is why the opening phrase stated, "if you ever have to go...."
Still going ongoing. Mexico is sh it hole.
there were three of us...all amigos....the other two guys were from PDX...I worked remote from the 'burg.....we had a driver that told us what to do....I did get a wild hair and drunk stumble down the 9 streets of the revoluciĆ³n....it got more expensive as the number increased....I had to do it just to see what it was like.....it was vaguely memorable....
just north is rosarita.....it's their san diego.....it was pretty much work, hotel, rosarita, hotel, hookers/gamble, repeat....15 trips was just the right amount of play at that time in my life....
edit: sub amigo for gringo....my greenhouse dyslexia was in reduction of grow mode
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RE: Consent?
(10-21-2015 09:27 AM)Fitbud Wrote: (10-21-2015 08:01 AM)VA49er Wrote: So, according to this advertisement, drunk women and not responsible for their actions, but drunk men are. How is that right?
I've always hated this double standard.
Limits your opportunity?
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RE: Consent?
(10-21-2015 09:30 AM)CliftonAve Wrote: (10-21-2015 09:01 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: I don't think that is quite what it is saying.
The idea that a drunk person can't consent is fairly mainstream.
If it was two guys you could write the poster with the exact same wording, minus names of course but then again that's probably sexist or something.
What about if it was the other way around? I can recall once getting lucky with a young lady when I was smashed. She didn't have a drink beforehand. You think anyone would be sympathetic to my cause if I cried rape the next day?
Well, I know that in theory the same law would cover you.
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RE: Consent?
(10-21-2015 11:24 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: The level of intoxication dictates this. Plenty of people are perfectly capable of consensual sex while very intoxicated. Obviously if you bang a chick that is damn near passed out...you have a problem.
Hell...I found the drunk chicks were often times extremely aggressive sexually. I don't know what more consent is needed.
This is true. One time I was heading to Dallas to watch a 'boys game and in the bus this girl got stupid drunk. She sat next to this guy that she just had met and practically wanted to rape the guy on the bus. She was pawing the crap out of the guy and he looked like he liked the action but was embarrassed at the same time. She puked on the bus and they had to stop to clean it. It was funny and sad at the same time.
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RE: Consent?
(10-21-2015 06:08 PM)olliebaba Wrote: (10-21-2015 11:24 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: The level of intoxication dictates this. Plenty of people are perfectly capable of consensual sex while very intoxicated. Obviously if you bang a chick that is damn near passed out...you have a problem.
Hell...I found the drunk chicks were often times extremely aggressive sexually. I don't know what more consent is needed.
This is true. One time I was heading to Dallas to watch a 'boys game and in the bus this girl got stupid drunk. She sat next to this guy that she just had met and practically wanted to rape the guy on the bus. She was pawing the crap out of the guy and he looked like he liked the action but was embarrassed at the same time. She puked on the bus and they had to stop to clean it. It was funny and sad at the same time.
thank 'god' smart phones weren't around when I was really stupid
slight of hand: see, I still think about thanking 'him'
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RE: Consent?
(10-21-2015 10:13 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (10-21-2015 08:01 AM)VA49er Wrote: So, according to this advertisement, drunk women and not responsible for their actions, but drunk men are. How is that right?
This is one reason that I do not do drunk hook ups anymore. Did plenty back in the day.
This is why I've never had any hookups outside of a night that if I was a woman I would've been considered to have been raped but because I'm a guy I just get laughed at when I mention it.
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RE: Consent?
(10-21-2015 07:08 PM)DexterDevil Wrote: (10-21-2015 10:13 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (10-21-2015 08:01 AM)VA49er Wrote: So, according to this advertisement, drunk women and not responsible for their actions, but drunk men are. How is that right?
This is one reason that I do not do drunk hook ups anymore. Did plenty back in the day.
This is why I've never had any hookups outside of a night that if I was a woman I would've been considered to have been raped but because I'm a guy I just get laughed at when I mention it.
you guys got sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fk'd over.......that's just unfair......you can't strap the dicky to board and pound it and think that's normal.....that's just fk'd the fk up.....why do you think the gubberment stepped in and released the wrath of prohibition....that was tard from a science perspective....did they really think the club was going to lay down w/o a whimper.....fk'n idiots....
thank 'god' I have a daughter.....and she dominates.....
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RE: Consent?
(10-21-2015 07:14 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (10-21-2015 07:08 PM)DexterDevil Wrote: (10-21-2015 10:13 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (10-21-2015 08:01 AM)VA49er Wrote: So, according to this advertisement, drunk women and not responsible for their actions, but drunk men are. How is that right?
This is one reason that I do not do drunk hook ups anymore. Did plenty back in the day.
This is why I've never had any hookups outside of a night that if I was a woman I would've been considered to have been raped but because I'm a guy I just get laughed at when I mention it.
you guys got sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fk'd over.......that's just unfair......you can't strap the dicky to board and pound it and think that's normal.....that's just fk'd the fk up.....why do you think the gubberment stepped in and released the wrath of prohibition....that was tard from a science perspective....did they really think the club was going to lay down w/o a whimper.....fk'n idiots....
thank 'god' I have a daughter.....and she dominates.....
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Re: RE: Consent?
(10-21-2015 07:14 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (10-21-2015 07:08 PM)DexterDevil Wrote: (10-21-2015 10:13 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (10-21-2015 08:01 AM)VA49er Wrote: So, according to this advertisement, drunk women and not responsible for their actions, but drunk men are. How is that right?
This is one reason that I do not do drunk hook ups anymore. Did plenty back in the day.
This is why I've never had any hookups outside of a night that if I was a woman I would've been considered to have been raped but because I'm a guy I just get laughed at when I mention it.
you guys got sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fk'd over.......that's just unfair......you can't strap the dicky to board and pound it and think that's normal.....that's just fk'd the fk up.....why do you think the gubberment stepped in and released the wrath of prohibition....that was tard from a science perspective....did they really think the club was going to lay down w/o a whimper.....fk'n idiots....
thank 'god' I have a daughter.....and she dominates.....
I just think its unfair the one time I've had sex outside of a relationship I was blacked out and initiated nothing according to everyone else there but if I felt the need or wanted to (which I don't, gal actually turned out to be a good friend, just not the datable type, and I gave her a fair shot) I wouldn't really be able to diddly squat where as vice versa that'd be jail time, sex offenders list, etc etc.
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RE: Consent?
(10-21-2015 08:21 AM)VA49er Wrote: I think it's part of a diabolical plan to decrease the amount of males in college. That is the only way it makes sense.
No need for a plan (diabolical or otherwise) -- that's happening already, on it's own.
As far back as ~2000 I heard from three different people who worked in the college admissions "business" -- at the Univ. of Florida, Emory, and Georgia State, respectively -- that the national undergraduate ratio was going to tip heavily in the favor of female applicants, and would probably stabilize at about 65/35 unless some sort of "boost" was given to male applicants. Those 3 people were definitely speculating about then-future trends, and I don't work in that field anyway, so I didn't have the chance to follow up on that. But hearing one of them mention the 65/35 ratio (and the other 2 immediately agreeing with it; one of them said "Maybe more than that") quite honestly shocked me and I've never forgotten that.
About 3 years ago I learned that Davidson College in N.C. was giving affirmative-action type preferences to male applicants for undergraduate admissions. Unclear to what extent, and how many applicants were involved, but it was definitely happening. I'd be curious to know if other universities are doing the same thing. I've heard that William & Mary either was, or was considering it, but haven't been able to confirm that one way or the other.
I'm not even saying that this is necessarily a "problem" or something "bad". Just an interesting trend that explains a lot about where we are headed as a society.
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