Wouldn't put it past The Scar to achieve his "national reach." New AD with Big East pedigree has been awful quiet. Randy knows Best and Lebron has their back. Any muck to rake?

(10-20-2015 07:31 PM)BrownNThornton Wrote:  Wouldn't put it past The Scar to achieve his "national reach." New AD with Big East pedigree has been awful quiet. Randy knows Best and Lebron has their back. Any muck to rake?

I assume that you understand that in order for a school to join another conference, that "new" conference has to first extend an invitation to that school to do so. At this point in time I would bet that any change in conference for Akron, or for most any of the full MAC members for that matter, is highly unlikely and if one does occur, it would probably more likely be a step down to a lower level rather than step up to a higher level.

Higher Ed is facing some serious challenges immediately down the road and if at the end of Scott Scarborough's presidency at Akron, the institution actually finds itself in better shape than it was when he first took over, I will be surprised.

No.

(10-20-2015 08:23 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  No.

He's Lying! He's Lying! He doesn't think we can handle the truth!!

If akron leaves, its not moving upward... i promise you that. Lebron can't tell the entire NCAA what to do

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One nice thing about this season? So few of these threads.

(10-20-2015 07:31 PM)BrownNThornton Wrote:  Wouldn't put it past The Scar to achieve his "national reach." New AD with Big East pedigree has been awful quiet. Randy knows Best and Lebron has their back. Any muck to rake?

I know Akron played like a Big East football team last week (non-exisistent), but they have no plans of dropping the program, so no sure why this is even a thread?

Maybe if the Big East wanted them as a soccer only member and the MAC would oblige to letting them leave, then maybe Akron has a chance to "join" the Big East.

The Big East is happy being who they are-- a league comprised of private universities without FBS football. Akron does not fit their profile. Unless there is a seismic shift, I doubt there will be a change to that profile anytime soon.

Only logical fits are the American conference, or C-USA.

I think a lot depends on the football record this year and next.

(10-22-2015 09:05 PM)Zipfanatik Wrote:  I think a lot depends on the football record this year and next.

unless you go 12-0 the next two seasons its moot..

Yea I am not seeing it. What conference is simultaneously desperate enough to take Akron at this time while at the same good enough that Akron also wants to leave.

For instance the AAC is not anywhere near that desperate (they do not need anybody and have better options even if they were looking). The Atlantic Sun could use some more schools but Akron would not want to go there.

(10-22-2015 11:34 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  Yea I am not seeing it. What conference is simultaneously desperate enough to take Akron at this time while at the same good enough that Akron also wants to leave.

For instance the AAC is not anywhere near that desperate (they do not need anybody and have better options even if they were looking). The Atlantic Sun could use some more schools but Akron would not want to go there.

The AAC would be looking if Cincy or Houston gets in if the Big 12 expands, which will happen for sure if the league is left out of the CFB playoffs again due to not having a title game.

I'm not saying Akron is going to the AAC even if that does happen, but all you have to do is look at the make-up of the league to see they value major markets. Akron (and Kent) have the largest in the country with no direct P5 competition. If the Big12 expands with an AAC school, the AAC will definitely give the Greater Cleveland area strong consideration.

Not just due to population, but the area is arguably the No.1 recruiting area in the North for football. In total numbers of NFL talent, Greater Cleveland is neck-and-neck with Chicago, despite Chicago being four times as large. As of 2014, Chicago led any northern state with 45 active NFL players (eighth overall in the US). Cleveland had 41 (10th overall). But Chicago has a P5 school (Northwestern) where Cleveland doesn't.

http://www.scout.com/nfl/story/1463453-n...reas?s=127

Per capita, Cleveland rises to 8th overall (and by far the best in the North). Chicago drops back to No. 57, behind a ton of northern metros.

http://www.scout.com/nfl/story/1463458-n...pita?s=127

That alone would have the AAC looking. But it goes beyond football. The Greater Cleveland area just had three players taken in the top 50 picks in the 2015 NBA draft. The area also produced a McD AA this past year (Carlton Bragg, Kansas) and another top 50 recruit in Esa Ahmad (West Virginia). The 2016 Greater Cleveland class has two 5 star commits (Omari Spellman and VJ King, though both are at out of state schools) and has seven other guys who are committed to major programs. While just a one-year snapshot, the 9 players from Greater Cleveland going to big schools is higher than the number of total prospects in the entire state of Illinois, according to 247.

http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Basketb...l&State=OH

http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Basketb...l&State=IL

Whatever, we can address this more if the B12 (hence the AAC) actually expand. But its foolish to think that past football success is the biggest motivator for league movement. Markets and potential trump that. Look no further than UCF. They were horrible in the MAC, but didn't stop them from moving up to CUSA and then American.

(10-22-2015 11:34 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  The Atlantic Sun could use some more schools but Akron would not want to go there.

I would not join any club that would have me as a member.

(10-23-2015 02:35 AM)Wadszip Wrote:  

(10-22-2015 11:34 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  Yea I am not seeing it. What conference is simultaneously desperate enough to take Akron at this time while at the same good enough that Akron also wants to leave.

For instance the AAC is not anywhere near that desperate (they do not need anybody and have better options even if they were looking). The Atlantic Sun could use some more schools but Akron would not want to go there.

The AAC would be looking if Cincy or Houston gets in if the Big 12 expands, which will happen for sure if the league is left out of the CFB playoffs again due to not having a title game.

I'm not saying Akron is going to the AAC even if that does happen, but all you have to do is look at the make-up of the league to see they value major markets. Akron (and Kent) have the largest in the country with no direct P5 competition. If the Big12 expands with an AAC school, the AAC will definitely give the Greater Cleveland area strong consideration.

Not just due to population, but the area is arguably the No.1 recruiting area in the North for football. In total numbers of NFL talent, Greater Cleveland is neck-and-neck with Chicago, despite Chicago being four times as large. As of 2014, Chicago led any northern state with 45 active NFL players (eighth overall in the US). Cleveland had 41 (10th overall). But Chicago has a P5 school (Northwestern) where Cleveland doesn't.

http://www.scout.com/nfl/story/1463453-n...reas?s=127

Per capita, Cleveland rises to 8th overall (and by far the best in the North). Chicago drops back to No. 57, behind a ton of northern metros.

http://www.scout.com/nfl/story/1463458-n...pita?s=127

That alone would have the AAC looking. But it goes beyond football. The Greater Cleveland area just had three players taken in the top 50 picks in the 2015 NBA draft. The area also produced a McD AA this past year (Carlton Bragg, Kansas) and another top 50 recruit in Esa Ahmad (West Virginia). The 2016 Greater Cleveland class has two 5 star commits (Omari Spellman and VJ King, though both are at out of state schools) and has seven other guys who are committed to major programs. While just a one-year snapshot, the 9 players from Greater Cleveland going to big schools is higher than the number of total prospects in the entire state of Illinois, according to 247.

http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Basketb...l&State=OH

http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Basketb...l&State=IL

Whatever, we can address this more if the B12 (hence the AAC) actually expand. But its foolish to think that past football success is the biggest motivator for league movement. Markets and potential trump that. Look no further than UCF. They were horrible in the MAC, but didn't stop them from moving up to CUSA and then American.

Akron would go back to the Ohio Valley/Independent for Football again before that happens.

(10-22-2015 10:46 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-22-2015 09:05 PM)Zipfanatik Wrote:  I think a lot depends on the football record this year and next.

unless you go 12-0 the next two seasons its moot..

I'm thinking of an alternative scenario whereby if Bowden is unable to continue progressing and produce winning records, Pres. Scarborough decides to do more cost cutting. Let's face it, being a MAC member is costly.

This thread is so stupid it doesn't even deserve to have the meme making fun of it have correct spelling.