This week a 2-year-old in South Carolina found a gun in the back seat of the car he was riding in and accidentally shot his grandmother, who was sitting in the passenger seat. This type of thing happens from time to time: A little kid finds a gun, fires it, and hurts or kills himself or someone else. These cases rarely bubble up to the national level except when someone, like a parent, ends up dead.

But cases like this happen a lot more frequently than you might think. After spending a few hours sifting through news reports, I've found at least 43 instances this year of somebody being shot by a toddler 3 or younger. In 31 of those 43 cases, a toddler found a gun and shot himself or herself.






Link

Seventy-three kids have drowned in Texas in 2015.



https://www.dfps.state.tx.us/Watch_Kids_...wnings.asp

(10-20-2015 10:12 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Seventy-three kids have drowned in Texas in 2015.



https://www.dfps.state.tx.us/Watch_Kids_...wnings.asp

We need water control.

I guess a more stringent background check would have kept those evil guns out of the hands of those toddlers.

Can we please stop blaming human failings on inanimate objects?

And before fitty accuses me of blaming the toddler, I'm blaming the adult responsible for both the child AND the one responsible for the firearm.

(10-20-2015 10:12 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(10-20-2015 10:12 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Seventy-three kids have drowned in Texas in 2015.



https://www.dfps.state.tx.us/Watch_Kids_...wnings.asp

We need water control.

+1

There is no constitutional right to water.

Let's ban all water.

Water is evil

(10-20-2015 10:57 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Water is evil

Nobody needs it

This is the future! Things change. We have coke and stuff now.

Get with the times! Ban water!

About 15 years ago I had a nephew who drowned at 18 months... I'm pretty sure that hurt would have been the same no matter what the cause.

Only good babies with guns can stop bad babies with guns.

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As far as the drowning argument goes....

There's a reason that many parents don't buy houses with pools when they have infants. They're trying not to introduce danger into their child's environment.

Same principle should apply to firearms. Got a curious little toddler around? Keep the gun locked away or just get rid of it. Its far more likely that something tragic will happen with it rather than you get the bad guy with it.

(10-20-2015 11:08 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  There's a reason that many parents don't buy houses with pools when they have infants. They're trying not to introduce danger into their child's environment.

That's not good enough... We need Pool control! You should not be allowed to own a pool control! For the children!

(10-20-2015 10:52 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Can we please stop blaming human failings on inanimate objects?

And before fitty accuses me of blaming the toddler, I'm blaming the adult responsible for both the child AND the one responsible for the firearm.

Guns don't kill people but access to guns makes it easier for people to kill people.

In what other way could a 3 year old kill another person? I can't think of many.

Only Normal and Natural Union between Male and Female can produce be fruitful and multiply Tom!

You can only drown in water Fit. Water must be bad.

(10-20-2015 11:19 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Only Normal and Natural Union between Male and Female can produce be fruitful and multiply Tom!

Irrelevant to the topic at hand.

(10-20-2015 11:17 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(10-20-2015 10:52 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Can we please stop blaming human failings on inanimate objects?

And before fitty accuses me of blaming the toddler, I'm blaming the adult responsible for both the child AND the one responsible for the firearm.

Guns don't kill people but access to guns makes it easier for people to kill people.

In what other way could a 3 year old kill another person? I can't think of many.

What dumb*** gave a 3 year old access to a gun? THERE's your culprit.

(10-20-2015 11:08 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Only good babies with guns can stop bad babies with guns.

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As far as the drowning argument goes....

There's a reason that many parents don't buy houses with pools when they have infants. They're trying not to introduce danger into their child's environment.

Same principle should apply to firearms. Got a curious little toddler around? Keep the gun locked away or just get rid of it. Its far more likely that something tragic will happen with it rather than you get the bad guy with it.

I think you and I agree, Tom.

(10-20-2015 11:25 AM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(10-20-2015 11:19 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Only Normal and Natural Union between Male and Female can produce be fruitful and multiply Tom!

Irrelevant to the topic at hand.

Don't worry, he's on ignore.

(10-20-2015 11:27 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(10-20-2015 11:08 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Only good babies with guns can stop bad babies with guns.

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As far as the drowning argument goes....

There's a reason that many parents don't buy houses with pools when they have infants. They're trying not to introduce danger into their child's environment.

Same principle should apply to firearms. Got a curious little toddler around? Keep the gun locked away or just get rid of it. Its far more likely that something tragic will happen with it rather than you get the bad guy with it.

I think you and I agree, Tom.

Me too, and that's why I don't own a gun... But! The push from guys like fit is not for parents to use common sense. It's for the government to *FORCE* them to use common sense or not have any options at all..

(10-20-2015 11:26 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(10-20-2015 11:17 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(10-20-2015 10:52 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Can we please stop blaming human failings on inanimate objects?

And before fitty accuses me of blaming the toddler, I'm blaming the adult responsible for both the child AND the one responsible for the firearm.

Guns don't kill people but access to guns makes it easier for people to kill people.

In what other way could a 3 year old kill another person? I can't think of many.

What dumb*** gave a 3 year old access to a gun? THERE's your culprit.

Most are those that treat firearms as 'everyday' objects and get too comfortable around them. They then get lazy and just leave them around. They also carry them with them and move them around more often than their security situation really justifies.

Some are paranoids who thinks he's (and yes, its almost always a he) going to be killed if he doesn't have 24/7 access to a loaded firearm within his arm's reach. So they keep multiple loaded guns around the house.