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Bowlsby says BXII at disadvantage unless it adds two
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/25797...-in-danger

The Big 12 model, as it currently operates, is temporary. That's not just any opinion of some columnist, message board poster or realignment rumormonger. That's straight from the mouth of conference commissioner Bob Bowlsby.

And if Bowlsby feels change is not just coming but necessary for survival, then how the Big 12 looks today likely isn't how it will look in the not-too-distant future. Otherwise, there may not be a Big 12 at all.

Speaking to Toby Rowland, the play-by-play broadcaster of Sooner Sports Network
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Fluguar got a mention, seriously?
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03-lmfao from the same article.

Quote: Toby Rowland
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I asked B12 Commish Bob Bowlsby Saturday on air to predict what the B12 looks like in 5 years. He answered, "without a championship game...
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Be fair, that was Andy Staples.
10-19-2015 09:50 AM
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RE: Bowlsby says BXII at disadvantage unless it adds two
The interesting part of the quote IMO ->

"...w/out a network, w/out being at 12 or even larger, we probably if you add all those things up may be at a little bit of a disadvantage."
10-19-2015 09:53 AM
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RE: Bowlsby says BXII at disadvantage unless it adds two
How about Houston and Memphis?

Adds 2 Top 25 teams within the footprint.
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RE: Bowlsby says BXII at disadvantage unless it adds two
..w/out a network, w/out being at 12 or even larger, we probably if you add all those things up may be at a little bit of a disadvantage."


Looks as if he talking about adding more than 2
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(10-19-2015 09:56 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  How about Houston and Memphis?

Adds 2 Top 25 teams within the footprint.

"Two or more"

Houston
Memphis
BYU
Cincinnati
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RE: Bowlsby says BXII at disadvantage unless it adds two
Actually a pretty good article. I think the two big questions are how much is a "little bit" of a disadvantage? And does "little bit" refer to the playoff, or does it refer to revenue model? If it is mainly the former, depending on the definition of "little bit", that's not necessarily a reason to expand. If it is the latter, that is where there may be more motivation.
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(10-19-2015 10:00 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  
(10-19-2015 09:56 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  How about Houston and Memphis?

Adds 2 Top 25 teams within the footprint.

"Two or more"

Houston
Memphis
BYU
Cincinnati

Houston fend off SEC domination in southeast Texas
Memphis great BB and rapidly improved FB heart of SEC territory
BYU we all know what they bring national brand
Cincinatti FB and BB, bridge for WVU
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(10-19-2015 10:00 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  
(10-19-2015 09:56 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  How about Houston and Memphis?

Adds 2 Top 25 teams within the footprint.

"Two or more"

Houston
Memphis
BYU
Cincinnati

that would be My picks.
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(10-19-2015 10:10 AM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  
(10-19-2015 10:00 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  
(10-19-2015 09:56 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  How about Houston and Memphis?

Adds 2 Top 25 teams within the footprint.

"Two or more"

Houston
Memphis
BYU
Cincinnati

Houston fend off SEC domination in southeast Texas
Memphis great BB and rapidly improved FB heart of SEC territory
BYU we all know what they bring national brand
Cincinatti FB and BB, bridge for WVU

Tulane for the New Orleans market. Time to stick it to the SEC.

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(10-19-2015 10:08 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  Actually a pretty good article. I think the two big questions are how much is a "little bit" of a disadvantage? And does "little bit" refer to the playoff, or does it refer to revenue model? If it is mainly the former, depending on the definition of "little bit", that's not necessarily a reason to expand. If it is the latter, that is where there may be more motivation.

I think he is referring more to Boren's "psychological disadvantage." Fewer teams, fewer votes on NCAA issues, fewer votes in playoff committee (its already that way), fewer teams in the polls, less overall attention.
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RE: Bowlsby says BXII at disadvantage unless it adds two
The value that each new team has to provide is misleading.

When the B12 is up for a contract renegotiation the value of a 10 team vs. 12 team conference will be weighed. The Big East is worth xxx amount of dollars more if they were to expand to 12 with lightweights such as Dayton and St. Louis.

The inventory question once again rears its ugly head.
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Bleacher Report, ha ha. Couldn't find anything from the Dude or MHver?
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(10-19-2015 09:57 AM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  ..w/out a network, w/out being at 12 or even larger, we probably if you add all those things up may be at a little bit of a disadvantage."


Looks as if he talking about adding more than 2

Houston's billionaire booster who recently said Houston had a better than 50% chance of landing a P5 invite w/in 36 months might be on target. 04-bow
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"I think there's a better than 50 percent chance in the next 24 to 36 months that the University of Houston is in a major conference," Fertitta said."

HERE >>>

http://www.chron.com/local/education/cam...ter-mobile
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(10-19-2015 09:56 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  How about Houston and Memphis?

Adds 2 Top 25 teams within the footprint.

Yeah, two teams that are top-25 this week.
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RE: Bowlsby says BXII at disadvantage unless it adds two
The XII has to ask itself a similar question to what Notre Dame has to ask itself:

"is the strong likelihood of being excluded from the CFP playoff, in most seasons, worth it in order to preserve _______ ?"

For Notre Dame, the underlined part is "the tradition of football independence".

For XII, the underlined part is "the model of 10 teams with a 9 game, round robin, conference schedule and no CCG, splitting conference revenues only 10 ways".
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RE: Bowlsby says BXII at disadvantage unless it adds two
Is there any possibility of the following happening?

- conference gives Texas a "severance" package, asking it to leave the conference in football only to become an independent (and taking the LHN with it): some amount of money, and giving Texas-Oklahoma top priority in scheduling

- XII adds Houston, for losing Texas (not saying that's equivalent)

- then XII can add whichever teams it desires to get to a CCG

- try to launch a conference network
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