(10-20-2015 09:02 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(10-19-2015 06:49 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  But, I do not like cross the country conferences. West Virginia does not belong in the Big 12, and neither does the east coast schools in the AAC, C-USA, Sun Belt and the ACC.

Ummm, What?

Check your Geography...ACC is an East Coast conference...always has been.

And the statement says the "East Coast Schools" in the ACC (which from my perspective is basically all of them except Louisville) do not belong in the Big12. Which sounds reasonable to me.

The All Criminals Conference sounds more reasonable to me.

(10-20-2015 09:02 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(10-19-2015 06:49 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-19-2015 10:44 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 07:29 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 07:23 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Why in the hell would WVU go for that?

+1

That would be a god awful move.

The other thing is that a conference can't just unilaterally declare itself to be a power conference. The very top bowls didn't even like taking the post-Miami Big East teams when they still had WVU, Pitt, Syracuse, Louisville and Rutgers. If that version of the Big East couldn't secure a contract with a top bowl (and the other power conferences only allowed the Big East to continue to have an AQ bid largely because the commissioners really respected Mike Tranghese), then the AAC isn't going to be in that position, either. That doesn't even get into the TV contract angle.

Now, the AAC can certainly beat teams on-the-field. There's no question about that. However, you can't even play yourself into a power conference position (as the MWC found out several years ago). Generally, the other power conferences will eventually pick off the best non-power conference assets to knock those leagues back down a peg again.

Louisville was never really a power house in the old Big East after they left C-USA. The 2 main power house that are still left in the AAC are Cincinnati and South Florida since they both were right there when West Virginia, Pitt, Syracuse and others were still there. I think both getting an invite to the Big 12 could be very strong and at the top again when they play against West Virginia again.

But, I do not like cross the country conferences. West Virginia does not belong in the Big 12, and neither does the east coast schools in the AAC, C-USA, Sun Belt and the ACC.

Ummm, What?

Check your Geography...ACC is an East Coast conference...always has been.

Sun Belt now has App State, Ga Southern, Ga State, Coastal Carolina...4 schools in 3 East Coast states...that's good geography and can develop rivalries

CUSA has ODU, Charlotte, FAU, FIU...big schools in big markets...all in Eastern time zone.

And the AAC has 7 of its programs in the Eastern Time Zone...that's almost an entire conference...don't see anything wrong with that.

I meant the AAC.

(10-18-2015 11:48 PM)leofrog Wrote:  I like how one good year makes the AAC think they "belong". What about last year?

What about the year before that, in which we won a BCS Bowl (UCF vs Baylor in Fiesta) and men's & women's basketball national championships?

(10-21-2015 05:15 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 11:48 PM)leofrog Wrote:  I like how one good year makes the AAC think they "belong". What about last year?

What about the year before that, in which we won a BCS Bowl (UCF vs Baylor in Fiesta) and men's & women's basketball national championships?

They were the P6 at the time and was their last year of the AQ.

I think Aresco is doing a fantastic job getting the AAC unbelievable exposure for football,basketball and now even baseball on ESPN,CBS Sports and this new American Network for lesser games. We just need to be paid much more per school.

(10-21-2015 05:15 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 11:48 PM)leofrog Wrote:  I like how one good year makes the AAC think they "belong". What about last year?

What about the year before that, in which we won a BCS Bowl (UCF vs Baylor in Fiesta) and men's & women's basketball national championships?

And UCF just fell off the map too, which doesn't happen to teams in power conferences. They may fall back, but they don't go 0-7 just 2 years following a major bowl win.

Calling UCF mediocre is an insult to mediocre teams. Power conferences aren't looking for a flash in the pan here and there. They're looking for sustained success, which UCF - or USF, for that matter - should be able to maintain. The talent in the area makes that a fairly easy task for a halfway competent coach.

This isn't rocket science. It's football.

(10-22-2015 01:13 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 05:15 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 11:48 PM)leofrog Wrote:  I like how one good year makes the AAC think they "belong". What about last year?

What about the year before that, in which we won a BCS Bowl (UCF vs Baylor in Fiesta) and men's & women's basketball national championships?

And UCF just fell off the map too, which doesn't happen to teams in power conferences. They may fall back, but they don't go 0-7 just 2 years following a major bowl win.

Calling UCF mediocre is an insult to mediocre teams. Power conferences aren't looking for a flash in the pan here and there. They're looking for sustained success, which UCF - or USF, for that matter - should be able to maintain. The talent in the area makes that a fairly easy task for a halfway competent coach.

This isn't rocket science. It's football.

Feel better?

(10-22-2015 01:26 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  Feel better?

Because I stated a FACT?

(10-22-2015 01:13 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 05:15 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 11:48 PM)leofrog Wrote:  I like how one good year makes the AAC think they "belong". What about last year?

What about the year before that, in which we won a BCS Bowl (UCF vs Baylor in Fiesta) and men's & women's basketball national championships?

And UCF just fell off the map too, which doesn't happen to teams in power conferences. They may fall back, but they don't go 0-7 just 2 years following a major bowl win.

Calling UCF mediocre is an insult to mediocre teams. Power conferences aren't looking for a flash in the pan here and there. They're looking for sustained success, which UCF - or USF, for that matter - should be able to maintain. The talent in the area makes that a fairly easy task for a halfway competent coach.

This isn't rocket science. It's football.

Some aggressive hate, I know the team I like sucks, but that is some aggressive hate. Take a Big 12 team like Texas, when I was in college Vince Young was competing for a national title. Now Texas sucks and has sucked for a while.

The AAC is having a great year & has solid programs in both football & basketball but this whole P6 stuff is crazy talk. First you don't have a NY6 bowl guarantee & are completely at the mercy of the committee as to whether you're champion plays in a marque bowl. Second you don't have a seat on the new governence structure that will gradually implement it's desire on the NCAA

(10-22-2015 01:36 PM)Huskies12 Wrote:  

(10-22-2015 01:13 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 05:15 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 11:48 PM)leofrog Wrote:  I like how one good year makes the AAC think they "belong". What about last year?

What about the year before that, in which we won a BCS Bowl (UCF vs Baylor in Fiesta) and men's & women's basketball national championships?

And UCF just fell off the map too, which doesn't happen to teams in power conferences. They may fall back, but they don't go 0-7 just 2 years following a major bowl win.

Calling UCF mediocre is an insult to mediocre teams. Power conferences aren't looking for a flash in the pan here and there. They're looking for sustained success, which UCF - or USF, for that matter - should be able to maintain. The talent in the area makes that a fairly easy task for a halfway competent coach.

This isn't rocket science. It's football.

Some aggressive hate, I know the team I like sucks, but that is some aggressive hate. Take a Big 12 team like Texas, when I was in college Vince Young was competing for a national title. Now Texas sucks and has sucked for a while.

And when was the last time Texas went 0-7? Texas considers 7-5 unacceptable. UCF doesn't, and neither does UConn.

If you're going to get into a battle of wits, at least come armed.

(10-22-2015 01:40 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-22-2015 01:36 PM)Huskies12 Wrote:  

(10-22-2015 01:13 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 05:15 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 11:48 PM)leofrog Wrote:  I like how one good year makes the AAC think they "belong". What about last year?

What about the year before that, in which we won a BCS Bowl (UCF vs Baylor in Fiesta) and men's & women's basketball national championships?

And UCF just fell off the map too, which doesn't happen to teams in power conferences. They may fall back, but they don't go 0-7 just 2 years following a major bowl win.

Calling UCF mediocre is an insult to mediocre teams. Power conferences aren't looking for a flash in the pan here and there. They're looking for sustained success, which UCF - or USF, for that matter - should be able to maintain. The talent in the area makes that a fairly easy task for a halfway competent coach.

This isn't rocket science. It's football.

Some aggressive hate, I know the team I like sucks, but that is some aggressive hate. Take a Big 12 team like Texas, when I was in college Vince Young was competing for a national title. Now Texas sucks and has sucked for a while.

And when was the last time Texas went 0-7? Texas considers 7-5 unacceptable. UCF doesn't, and neither does UConn.

If you're going to get into a battle of wits, at least come armed.

Fine how about Kansas and Iowa St.? Somebody always goes 0-7

MAC is having a great year as well, Toledo #19 in football, BGSU #12 & Miami #15 Men's Hockey. Akron finished the 14/15 indoor track season #18 women and #23 men. Akron is currently #4 for Men's Soccer.

If Akron, Toledo, BGSU & Miami remain ranked, this will be one of the MAC's finest seasons.

(10-22-2015 01:42 PM)Huskies12 Wrote:  Fine how about Kansas and Iowa St.? Somebody always goes 0-7

Keep reaching. Kansas got Weis'd, and Iowa State has never been a football power. They're more of a basketball school, like Kansas.

(10-22-2015 01:40 PM)mj4life Wrote:  The AAC is having a great year & has solid programs in both football & basketball but this whole P6 stuff is crazy talk. First you don't have a NY6 bowl guarantee & are completely at the mercy of the committee as to whether you're champion plays in a marque bowl. Second you don't have a seat on the new governence structure that will gradually implement it's desire on the NCAA

Crazy is that crazy does. We are going to bump rush the governance structure and take a seat, if we have to, today the NCAA tomorrow the world. Don't tell anyone what our plan is.

(10-22-2015 02:50 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-22-2015 01:42 PM)Huskies12 Wrote:  Fine how about Kansas and Iowa St.? Somebody always goes 0-7

Keep reaching. Kansas got Weis'd, and Iowa State has never been a football power. They're more of a basketball school, like Kansas.

So OK, they can suck but nobody in the AAC can, got it. Every year somebody comes in last place in the Big 12. Somebody sucks every year.

(10-22-2015 03:25 PM)Huskies12 Wrote:  

(10-22-2015 02:50 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-22-2015 01:42 PM)Huskies12 Wrote:  Fine how about Kansas and Iowa St.? Somebody always goes 0-7

Keep reaching. Kansas got Weis'd, and Iowa State has never been a football power. They're more of a basketball school, like Kansas.

So OK, they can suck but nobody in the AAC can, got it. Every year somebody comes in last place in the Big 12. Somebody sucks every year.

Every conference has bottom feeders. It's the nature of conferences. Some teams are at the top, and some are at the bottom.

The fact that you aren't able to understand this concept doesn't bode well for your cognitive skills, dude.

Love the AAC. They are closing in to entering and establishing the Top 6 rather than 5 in my opinion with great tv exposure in football,basketball and even baseball under Mike Aresco. All great diverse universities in our conference.

(10-22-2015 01:40 PM)mj4life Wrote:  The AAC is having a great year & has solid programs in both football & basketball but this whole P6 stuff is crazy talk. First you don't have a NY6 bowl guarantee & are completely at the mercy of the committee as to whether you're champion plays in a marque bowl. Second you don't have a seat on the new governence structure that will gradually implement it's desire on the NCAA

If the AAC scratches the Big 12's back and the Big 12 votes for the AAC to be a power 6 conference, a seat in the new structure and so forth, and the AAC votes for the Big 12 to have a CCG with only 10 members without expanding? Could the Big 12 do the same with the MWC to get more votes to support them in return?

Power 7 Conference:
AAC
ACC
Big 10
Big 12
MWC
PAC 12
SEC

MWC could invite BYU and UTEP or UTSA in to go to 14 maybe Eastern Washington or North Dakota State to be at 16.

AAC could then invite 4 more if they like and get a conference Network. Toledo, Northern Illinois, Marshall and Southern Miss.