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(10-30-2015 03:40 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(10-30-2015 03:12 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  Honestly, in my opinion, the south bowl seems like such a low priority compared the the necessity of a new press box, and premium seating.

Agreed. My orignal point was that SF shouldn't worry about getting all the money to build the East premium build AND the South Bowl all at the same time...BECAUSE it seems like they are having a hard time getting a sponsor.

If we have enough to just build the East premium structure then lets get that going ASAP so we have a chance to have those high dollar seats for our Utah home opener in 2018.

I wouldn't be surprised if the rumored games at The Cell aren't actual rumors, but as back up plan for the P5 games if the stadium is under construction, or the Athletic Dept. wasn't able to reel in large donation or partnership.
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(10-30-2015 03:40 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(10-30-2015 03:12 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  Honestly, in my opinion, the south bowl seems like such a low priority compared the the necessity of a new press box, and premium seating.

Agreed. My orignal point was that SF shouldn't worry about getting all the money to build the East premium build AND the South Bowl all at the same time...because it seems like they are having a hard time getting a sponsor.

If we have enough to just build the East premium structure then lets get that going ASAP so we have a chance to have those high dollar seats for our Utah home opener in 2018.

Who is going to buy those high dollar seats? Sponsors?
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(10-30-2015 03:47 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  
(10-30-2015 03:40 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(10-30-2015 03:12 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  Honestly, in my opinion, the south bowl seems like such a low priority compared the the necessity of a new press box, and premium seating.

Agreed. My orignal point was that SF shouldn't worry about getting all the money to build the East premium build AND the South Bowl all at the same time...BECAUSE it seems like they are having a hard time getting a sponsor.

If we have enough to just build the East premium structure then lets get that going ASAP so we have a chance to have those high dollar seats for our Utah home opener in 2018.

I wouldn't be surprised if the rumored games at The Cell aren't actual rumors, but as back up plan for the P5 games if the stadium is under construction, or the Athletic Dept. wasn't able to reel in large donation or partnership.

No matter what these P5 games already scheduled need to be played at Huskie stadium. Even if athletics needs to charge Soldier Field prices for the individual tickets.

If SF moves these already announced P5 games to the Cell then he is going to quickly have his support quickly diminish.

If its a new game that is announced as a game at the Cell then that is totally acceptable.
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(10-30-2015 03:54 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(10-30-2015 03:47 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  
(10-30-2015 03:40 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(10-30-2015 03:12 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  Honestly, in my opinion, the south bowl seems like such a low priority compared the the necessity of a new press box, and premium seating.

Agreed. My orignal point was that SF shouldn't worry about getting all the money to build the East premium build AND the South Bowl all at the same time...BECAUSE it seems like they are having a hard time getting a sponsor.

If we have enough to just build the East premium structure then lets get that going ASAP so we have a chance to have those high dollar seats for our Utah home opener in 2018.

I wouldn't be surprised if the rumored games at The Cell aren't actual rumors, but as back up plan for the P5 games if the stadium is under construction, or the Athletic Dept. wasn't able to reel in large donation or partnership.

No matter what these P5 games already scheduled need to be played at Huskie stadium. Even if athletics needs to charge Soldier Field prices for the individual tickets.

If SF moves these already announced P5 games to the Cell then he is going to quickly have his support quickly diminish.

If its a new game that is announced as a game at the Cell then that is totally acceptable.

Oh how so? I don't anticipate a large enough crowd for Utah in '18, but BYU in '20 I could see, mormons can travel.
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(10-30-2015 03:59 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  
(10-30-2015 03:54 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(10-30-2015 03:47 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  
(10-30-2015 03:40 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(10-30-2015 03:12 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  Honestly, in my opinion, the south bowl seems like such a low priority compared the the necessity of a new press box, and premium seating.

Agreed. My orignal point was that SF shouldn't worry about getting all the money to build the East premium build AND the South Bowl all at the same time...BECAUSE it seems like they are having a hard time getting a sponsor.

If we have enough to just build the East premium structure then lets get that going ASAP so we have a chance to have those high dollar seats for our Utah home opener in 2018.

I wouldn't be surprised if the rumored games at The Cell aren't actual rumors, but as back up plan for the P5 games if the stadium is under construction, or the Athletic Dept. wasn't able to reel in large donation or partnership.

No matter what these P5 games already scheduled need to be played at Huskie stadium. Even if athletics needs to charge Soldier Field prices for the individual tickets.

If SF moves these already announced P5 games to the Cell then he is going to quickly have his support quickly diminish.

If its a new game that is announced as a game at the Cell then that is totally acceptable.

Oh how so? I don't anticipate a large enough crowd for Utah in '18, but BYU in '20 I could see, mormons can travel.

How so? Because people want to see good teams at Huskie stadium. That's the whole point. We can play anybody at Soldier Field, or we can play on the road if we simply want money from the game. Been there, done that. There were few NIU fans at the last NIU game at Soldier Field, and it would probably be similar at the Cell, though you might get one game with good attendance before that starts to dwindle as well.
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(10-30-2015 04:07 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(10-30-2015 03:59 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  
(10-30-2015 03:54 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(10-30-2015 03:47 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  
(10-30-2015 03:40 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Agreed. My orignal point was that SF shouldn't worry about getting all the money to build the East premium build AND the South Bowl all at the same time...BECAUSE it seems like they are having a hard time getting a sponsor.

If we have enough to just build the East premium structure then lets get that going ASAP so we have a chance to have those high dollar seats for our Utah home opener in 2018.

I wouldn't be surprised if the rumored games at The Cell aren't actual rumors, but as back up plan for the P5 games if the stadium is under construction, or the Athletic Dept. wasn't able to reel in large donation or partnership.

No matter what these P5 games already scheduled need to be played at Huskie stadium. Even if athletics needs to charge Soldier Field prices for the individual tickets.

If SF moves these already announced P5 games to the Cell then he is going to quickly have his support quickly diminish.

If its a new game that is announced as a game at the Cell then that is totally acceptable.

Oh how so? I don't anticipate a large enough crowd for Utah in '18, but BYU in '20 I could see, mormons can travel.

How so? Because people want to see good teams at Huskie stadium. That's the whole point. We can play anybody at Soldier Field, or we can play on the road if we simply want money from the game. Been there, done that. There were few NIU fans at the last NIU game at Soldier Field, and it would probably be similar at the Cell, though you might get one game with good attendance before that starts to dwindle as well.

No I get that, but i just thought we were assuming that Utah travels so well that we wouldn't have enough to accommodate them in HS. I could see that for BYU, but not so much Utah. It's a good thing they're trending up in the PAC12 though, im excited for it.

PS. I HATE the Cell, but the setup may actually be good for a CFB game because of better tailgating.
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(10-30-2015 04:13 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  
(10-30-2015 04:07 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(10-30-2015 03:59 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  
(10-30-2015 03:54 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(10-30-2015 03:47 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  I wouldn't be surprised if the rumored games at The Cell aren't actual rumors, but as back up plan for the P5 games if the stadium is under construction, or the Athletic Dept. wasn't able to reel in large donation or partnership.

No matter what these P5 games already scheduled need to be played at Huskie stadium. Even if athletics needs to charge Soldier Field prices for the individual tickets.

If SF moves these already announced P5 games to the Cell then he is going to quickly have his support quickly diminish.

If its a new game that is announced as a game at the Cell then that is totally acceptable.

Oh how so? I don't anticipate a large enough crowd for Utah in '18, but BYU in '20 I could see, mormons can travel.

How so? Because people want to see good teams at Huskie stadium. That's the whole point. We can play anybody at Soldier Field, or we can play on the road if we simply want money from the game. Been there, done that. There were few NIU fans at the last NIU game at Soldier Field, and it would probably be similar at the Cell, though you might get one game with good attendance before that starts to dwindle as well.

No I get that, but i just thought we were assuming that Utah travels so well that we wouldn't have enough to accommodate them in HS. I could see that for BYU, but not so much Utah. It's a good thing they're trending up in the PAC12 though, im excited for it.

PS. I HATE the Cell, but the setup may actually be good for a CFB game because of better tailgating.

I agree that BYU would be more problematic to have at HS with the current configuration.
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(10-30-2015 04:13 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  No I get that, but i just thought we were assuming that Utah travels so well that we wouldn't have enough to accommodate them in HS. I could see that for BYU, but not so much Utah. It's a good thing they're trending up in the PAC12 though, im excited for it.

PS. I HATE the Cell, but the setup may actually be good for a CFB game because of better tailgating.

No one is assuming Utah travels well. I (and I think most of us) are assuming that NIU fans will show up to the game like they did vs Maryland because its a decent name team coming to Huskie Stadium.

If Utah were to be at the Cell it would be a disaster for attendance for the game itself and long term for the fanbase. I doubt 25k would even would show up at the Cell unless tickets were dirt cheap.
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(10-29-2015 04:41 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  The most expensive part of the project, just guessing from some small construction experience I have, is going to be the East side upgrades and luxury boxes. Obviously SF knows this and my guess is he is trying to get this done first by capitalizing on current NIU football momentum. The bowl isn't going to be that expensive, and the expensive part isn't the seating. The expensive part is adding large restrooms and concessions and team shop. But even the team shop is just a "potential" add on. so the Bowl really isn't that expensive guys. It's not hard to make curved bleachers. It will depend on how nice the restrooms and concessions is. The big money is on the East side, and the bigger money is the brand new olympics facility and the cost to move the baseball field.

Am I the only person who wonders WHY they would put the big money suites & upgrades on the East side? Has anyone thought about how those rich people will be staring into the sun & baking their pricey butts in the sun on that east side?
I always feel bad for the band & the students having to be in the sun on hot days.
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Just realized today is the 1 year anniversary of the release of the Master Plan.

Still looks beautiful....Please let's make this happen.

[Image: g72X7iO.png]
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(10-29-2015 04:38 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
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(10-29-2015 04:22 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  Does the bowl really make it look better if it's empty? I'm undecided on that answer.

It wouldn't be empty because that's where they plan to move the students. But even it were empty, yes, it would look better than what it looks like now. Which is a larger high school stadium.

Would the students still go if they got relocated to the endzone while half the better seats remain empty?

Good question. Endzone seats stink.
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(10-30-2015 01:28 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(10-30-2015 12:54 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  DF: I couldn't reply to your post for some reason....

Exactly, I was using $42ea as a best case scenario...which we all know is total BS. Yet still with the best case scenario number it still takes 18 games to sell 6500 additional seats before we were to break even with building the South Bowl.


I think it would be better use of the 5mil to renovate the West side bathrooms sooner or even the Convo's master plan update.

Absolutely no way the south bowl will cost 5 million dollars. At most it would cost half that. 6500 seats is not a lot at all, and all you're doing is putting in bleachers. 5 million is way too high. If i had to guess it would be 1.5 to 2 million for the south bowl.

It could...Union labor is not cheap. It typically raises costs.
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(10-30-2015 05:28 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  Just realized today is the 1 year anniversary of the release of the Master Plan.

Still looks beautiful....Please let's make this happen.

[Image: g72X7iO.png]

1 year anniversary of some plans?? good grief - you are over the top 03-lmfao
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(10-30-2015 06:00 PM)HuskieFootball Addict Wrote:  
(10-30-2015 05:28 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  Just realized today is the 1 year anniversary of the release of the Master Plan.

Still looks beautiful....Please let's make this happen.

[Image: g72X7iO.png]

1 year anniversary of some plans?? good grief - you are over the top 03-lmfao

Just pointing out a fact. But okay, good burn. You know, I hear Ill St. has a nice and up and coming program.
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(10-30-2015 05:12 PM)HuskieFootball Addict Wrote:  Am I the only person who wonders WHY they would put the big money suites & upgrades on the East side? Has anyone thought about how those rich people will be staring into the sun & baking their pricey butts in the sun on that east side?
I always feel bad for the band & the students having to be in the sun on hot days.

Because putting it on the West Side would cost almost twice as much, it would cause issues with the coaches box, media and officials space for 1 season and it wouldn't look good for the TV.

I do hope the roof overhang thing will help block the sun for the afternoon games but any 6pm game is going to stink for them for the first HR of the game.
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Thankful that we didnt have a home game today. The attendance would have been scary! Rimshot
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(10-30-2015 03:05 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  Well, we will see. if we are paying 5 million dollars for the south bowl, someone took us.

Hopefully a donor or company will be paying for it. If NIU pays for it thru the students or "future revenue" then it will be a long term financial disaster.
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