(10-17-2015 06:45 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote: You snap it, you have the qb roll out of pocket, until he's under any pressure and you have him throw it out of bounds past the line of scrimmage. You might not run it all off, but you'd only leave them with a hail mary at best.
But the punter has to know to just fall on it. Panic happens, though. All time stupid is probably harsh. But a punt, in college football, is not something to rely on.
It was 4th and short. I probably, in retrospect, just try to run it and get it.
I think it was the right decision to punt, those other options you mention to me are riskier than a punt
Eh
If the ball was on the other side of midfield I completely agree with you, but given that field position that would be one ballsy move.
Eh
Jesus, it's not hard. You run around backwards for a few seconds on 3rd down and then run around for a few seconds on 4th down. Game over. It's amazing how college football coaches can't do basic math so often. Unreal.
(10-17-2015 07:26 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: I think it was the right decision to punt, those other options you mention to me are riskier than a punt
Eh
If the ball was on the other side of midfield I completely agree with you, but given that field position that would be one ballsy move.
Eh
Jesus, it's not hard. You run around backwards for a few seconds on 3rd down and then run around for a few seconds on 4th down. Game over. It's amazing how college football coaches can't do basic math so often. Unreal.
Yeah, the plays before certainly could've set it up better as well.
(10-17-2015 07:26 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: I think it was the right decision to punt, those other options you mention to me are riskier than a punt
Eh
If the ball was on the other side of midfield I completely agree with you, but given that field position that would be one ballsy move.
Eh
Jesus, it's not hard. You run around backwards for a few seconds on 3rd down and then run around for a few seconds on 4th down. Game over. It's amazing how college football coaches can't do basic math so often. Unreal.
The punt was the right call, you cant run around on 4th down because then the clock stops with change of possession and they could have just kicked a game winning field goal. I don't like Harbaugh but can't blame him for this one.
If the ball was on the other side of midfield I completely agree with you, but given that field position that would be one ballsy move.
Eh
Jesus, it's not hard. You run around backwards for a few seconds on 3rd down and then run around for a few seconds on 4th down. Game over. It's amazing how college football coaches can't do basic math so often. Unreal.
The punt was the right call, you cant run around on 4th down because then the clock stops with change of possession and they could have just kicked a game winning field goal. I don't like Harbaugh but can't blame him for this one.
You could also just have gone for it. They would've needed a hail mary to beat you still. And you could've wasted time on previous downs so you didn't have to worry about 4th down.
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If the ball was on the other side of midfield I completely agree with you, but given that field position that would be one ballsy move.
Eh
Jesus, it's not hard. You run around backwards for a few seconds on 3rd down and then run around for a few seconds on 4th down. Game over. It's amazing how college football coaches can't do basic math so often. Unreal.
The punt was the right call, you cant run around on 4th down because then the clock stops with change of possession and they could have just kicked a game winning field goal. I don't like Harbaugh but can't blame him for this one.
Try reading what I wrote. Extra time should have been used on 3rd down which would have allowed them to do the same and run around on 4th down to end the game.
(10-17-2015 07:29 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: If the ball was on the other side of midfield I completely agree with you, but given that field position that would be one ballsy move.
Eh
Jesus, it's not hard. You run around backwards for a few seconds on 3rd down and then run around for a few seconds on 4th down. Game over. It's amazing how college football coaches can't do basic math so often. Unreal.
The punt was the right call, you cant run around on 4th down because then the clock stops with change of possession and they could have just kicked a game winning field goal. I don't like Harbaugh but can't blame him for this one.
Try reading what I wrote. Extra time should have been used on 3rd down which would have allowed them to do the same and run around on 4th down to end the game.
Its just riskier to try John Madden football plays on a real football field lol, the punt is the right call and would have been safe 99.9999999 percent of the time.
Jesus, it's not hard. You run around backwards for a few seconds on 3rd down and then run around for a few seconds on 4th down. Game over. It's amazing how college football coaches can't do basic math so often. Unreal.
The punt was the right call, you cant run around on 4th down because then the clock stops with change of possession and they could have just kicked a game winning field goal. I don't like Harbaugh but can't blame him for this one.
Try reading what I wrote. Extra time should have been used on 3rd down which would have allowed them to do the same and run around on 4th down to end the game.
Its just riskier to try John Madden football plays on a real football field lol, the punt is the right call and would have been safe 99.9999999 percent of the time.
You are ignoring the argument. You waste more time on previous downs, you don't have to punt. That's the optimal outcome.
(10-17-2015 08:50 PM)niubrad00 Wrote: Jesus, it's not hard. You run around backwards for a few seconds on 3rd down and then run around for a few seconds on 4th down. Game over. It's amazing how college football coaches can't do basic math so often. Unreal.
The punt was the right call, you cant run around on 4th down because then the clock stops with change of possession and they could have just kicked a game winning field goal. I don't like Harbaugh but can't blame him for this one.
Try reading what I wrote. Extra time should have been used on 3rd down which would have allowed them to do the same and run around on 4th down to end the game.
Its just riskier to try John Madden football plays on a real football field lol, the punt is the right call and would have been safe 99.9999999 percent of the time.
You are ignoring the argument. You waste more time on previous downs, you don't have to punt. That's the optimal outcome.
Easy to say now, but running circles in the backfield is probably not wise, too much can go wrong.
(10-17-2015 09:10 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: The punt was the right call, you cant run around on 4th down because then the clock stops with change of possession and they could have just kicked a game winning field goal. I don't like Harbaugh but can't blame him for this one.
Try reading what I wrote. Extra time should have been used on 3rd down which would have allowed them to do the same and run around on 4th down to end the game.
Its just riskier to try John Madden football plays on a real football field lol, the punt is the right call and would have been safe 99.9999999 percent of the time.
You are ignoring the argument. You waste more time on previous downs, you don't have to punt. That's the optimal outcome.
Easy to say now, but running circles in the backfield is probably not wise, too much can go wrong.
You are being intentionally dense. You don't have to circle the backfield....you can just roll out and wait.
(10-17-2015 09:45 PM)sterling1man Wrote: Never thought that BGSU Losing to Memphis ( by only 3 points) would have a major Bowl implication at the time.
For Memphis, yeah. BGSU got rolled by Tennessee, so even if they had won, I doubt they would be in. But you never know.
(10-17-2015 09:14 PM)niubrad00 Wrote: Try reading what I wrote. Extra time should have been used on 3rd down which would have allowed them to do the same and run around on 4th down to end the game.
Its just riskier to try John Madden football plays on a real football field lol, the punt is the right call and would have been safe 99.9999999 percent of the time.
You are ignoring the argument. You waste more time on previous downs, you don't have to punt. That's the optimal outcome.
Easy to say now, but running circles in the backfield is probably not wise, too much can go wrong.
You are being intentionally dense. You don't have to circle the backfield....you can just roll out and wait.
And you are acting like this is Madden Football on PS3. Way too incredibly risky to be messing around like that given that field position.
(10-17-2015 09:24 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: Its just riskier to try John Madden football plays on a real football field lol, the punt is the right call and would have been safe 99.9999999 percent of the time.
You are ignoring the argument. You waste more time on previous downs, you don't have to punt. That's the optimal outcome.
Easy to say now, but running circles in the backfield is probably not wise, too much can go wrong.
You are being intentionally dense. You don't have to circle the backfield....you can just roll out and wait.
And you are acting like this is Madden Football on PS3. Way too incredibly risky to be messing around like that given that field position.
It's unreal how long you can go without addressing the argument made. I'm done.
Utah and ASU putting on a good close affair.....but Utah tries a backwards lateral in the end zone that ends up being an illegal forwards pass after faking taking a knee.....might not have been the time for it. Costs them a safety.
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Jalen Watts-Jackson suffers a dislocated hip after scoring the winning TD in the MSU-Michigan game. Most likely happened when his teammates piled on him during the celebration. Watts-Jackson is done for the season. Surgery today and then 3 months on crutches.
(10-17-2015 09:14 PM)niubrad00 Wrote: Try reading what I wrote. Extra time should have been used on 3rd down which would have allowed them to do the same and run around on 4th down to end the game.
Its just riskier to try John Madden football plays on a real football field lol, the punt is the right call and would have been safe 99.9999999 percent of the time.
You are ignoring the argument. You waste more time on previous downs, you don't have to punt. That's the optimal outcome.
Easy to say now, but running circles in the backfield is probably not wise, too much can go wrong.
You are being intentionally dense. You don't have to circle the backfield....you can just roll out and wait.
Look, NIU played John Madden football against Alabama. (3:10 mark). Impossible, how could that happen?
(10-18-2015 08:44 AM)huskiebob Wrote: Jalen Watts-Jackson suffers a dislocated hip after scoring the winning TD in the MSU-Michigan game. Most likely happened when his teammates piled on him during the celebration. Watts-Jackson is done for the season. Surgery today and then 3 months on crutches.
Another bizarre outcome from that game.
It happened on the tackle. The media are being stupid.
ESPN's analysis of the week. #1 and #2 worst plays. Obvious #1. #2 -- I was like, WHOAH!
Quote:Worst plays
1. Michigan's botched punt in the final seconds against Michigan State will live in infamy.
2. We might need a public service announcement: If you catch a kickoff at the one-yard line, you can't run back into the end zone for a touchback. Northern Illinois found that out the hard way.