(10-17-2015 07:29 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Kind of being tongue and cheek here, with a little bit of seriousness. Remember when CBJ left and some suggested Kerry Coombs as a replacement? I know it seemed laughable at the time, but knowing what we know now on how Tubs is half asleep and he and his teams show no fire, and everyone now wanting an "up and comer". Does that idea still seem so far fetched?

Now that he has been at OSU for a couple and really worked the big time, this is exactly what should happen.

(10-17-2015 09:04 AM)CincyBro Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 07:29 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Kind of being tongue and cheek here, with a little bit of seriousness. Remember when CBJ left and some suggested Kerry Coombs as a replacement? I know it seemed laughable at the time, but knowing what we know now on how Tubs is half asleep and he and his teams show no fire, and everyone now wanting an "up and comer". Does that idea still seem so far fetched?

Now that he has been at OSU for a couple and really worked the big time, this is exactly what should happen.

Nope. You hire a position coach to be your head coach when your budget only allows you to pay a couple hundred grand. When you can pay a couple million bucks you hire someone who has at least been a coordinator.

Maybe, but they would all leave, just like our past history shows. Maybe Combs would find success and become footballs version of MC.

(10-16-2015 10:55 PM)jarr Wrote:  I say 7-5 record at the end. Loss @ Houston, and a loss to either ECU or USF. Pretty pathetic considering the expectations. This is almost worse than the CUSA Minter days.

Before the season, I had wondered about the USF-ECU on the road combo to end the season. EVEN IF the season was going well, there was a severe possibility of losing one, if not both of those games. The only comfort in playing ECU is that Ruffin McNeil is not a good coach either.

But I will say this again (it seems to be a mantra of mine these days): There is not a single game left on the schedule that we cannot win. There is also not a single game left of the schedule that we cannot also lose. 9-3 is possible at this point... 3-9 is also completely possible. (Both seem unlikely, but they both are possible.) It all depends on which UC team shows up on any given week and how aggressive the team playing us is. But there is no "safe" game at this point, nor is there a game that is so obviously "out of reach" that we should not at least hope.

I want coaches the rest of the world wants to pay huge $$ to hire away.

I want coaches who stay up all night working like maniacs to succeed at a level to make generational money when the opportunity presents itself. I want them to expect the same from their staff. I do not want a content head coach.

Mick is from here. It's personal. For tubby this is just another duty station on the career tour that makes his wife happy.

We have had a tremendous amount of success in coach recruitment. I firmly believe that we are the number one G5 program. We have great facilities, we have a good recruiting base, we play in the best g5 conference with the best opportunity to be seen on television. Consequently, whenever coaching turnover happens, we should have opportunity for the top p5 coordinators. Maybe we just need to figure on rolling the dice every three years. If you think about it, how many coaches stay at jobs much longer than three years. Coaches that have success at g5 move to p5. Success at p5 leads to better p5. Continued success leads to the pros. Btw, do not think for a second that if the sec came calling, Flubbs would be out of town on the first train.

(10-17-2015 09:31 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I want coaches the rest of the world wants to pay huge $$ to hire away.

I want coaches who stay up all night working like maniacs to succeed at a level to make generational money when the opportunity presents itself. I want them to expect the same from their staff. I do not want a content head coach.

Mick is from here. It's personal. For tubby this is just another duty station on the career tour that makes his wife happy.

Not that we are actually going to move on from Tuberville (unless things go completely south the rest of the way), but who are some guys you are interested in?

I'm really interested in Doug Meacham and Sonny Cumbie the co-offensive coordinators at TCU. The job they have done completely revamping that offense is pretty awesome. They are co-offensive coordinators... I'd be interested in taking a look into both of them.

Would they have a chance at getting someone like Kirby Smart from Bama? Is Kendal Briles going to have what his father has (it's probably too early with him as this is his first year as an OC)?

Names that come up a lot as far as up and coming head coaches are Matt Campbell at Toledo, Dino Babers at Bowling Green and Jeff Brohm at Western Kentucky. I also think Doc Holliday at Marshall would be an interesting guy to look into. Also interested in people's thoughts on Mark Hudspeth.

Not to disagree with everyone's points, but we're only in the 3rd Tubberville season. A new head coach takes 3-5 seasons to get his program established, unless you can recruit 5-star talent like Meyer.

I want UC to be the dominant G5 school, but the three losses are not all Tubberville's fault - 5 turnovers, a freshman QB and some missed calls - account for two the three.

It seems folks think we need to go undefeated every year to get a call from a P5 conference (which is our ultimate goal), but it doesn't work that way. When the next round of realignment happens, UC will be well positioned for a call.

I'm not happy with the record at this time, but this team has the talent to win out and I continue to fully support the team and Tubberville.

As exasperating and painful it is to watch our young defense I wonder if some of them will be defensive gems in a couple years. Looking back at Dantonio's 2005 4-7 team which got smashed by Rutgers 9-44, Miami Ohio 16-44 and West Virginia 0-38 if you look at our roster then it was full of freshman and sophomores who led us to success in the following years.
I guess the question is if our present coaching staff can turn our defense around or if it will still be spinning its wheels in a couple years. I was in error thinking our passing game alone was going to carry us to great results this year.

6-6

Really the only thing I am unhappy about is the defense. There are other issues of course, but that is the one that bothers me the most.

Having Hank Hughes as a DC set the defense back. That was a wasted year and now this year UC has to have a new DC. He has some experience with the defense but not as the head guy.

Even with the turnover, can't they at least try to rush/blitz the opposing QB? Can't they teach the db's a scheme that will prevent them from looking completely clueless like last night where nobody was within 30 yards of the receiver? UC has played 5 games now and have had plenty of time to learn some things.

All I want is an average defense. They don't even have to be great.

I thought Tuberville's background is in defense? Maybe he should take it over.

(10-17-2015 10:12 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 09:31 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I want coaches the rest of the world wants to pay huge $$ to hire away.

I want coaches who stay up all night working like maniacs to succeed at a level to make generational money when the opportunity presents itself. I want them to expect the same from their staff. I do not want a content head coach.

Mick is from here. It's personal. For tubby this is just another duty station on the career tour that makes his wife happy.

Not that we are actually going to move on from Tuberville (unless things go completely south the rest of the way), but who are some guys you are interested in?

I'm really interested in Doug Meacham and Sonny Cumbie the co-offensive coordinators at TCU. The job they have done completely revamping that offense is pretty awesome. They are co-offensive coordinators... I'd be interested in taking a look into both of them.

Would they have a chance at getting someone like Kirby Smart from Bama? Is Kendal Briles going to have what his father has (it's probably too early with him as this is his first year as an OC)?

Names that come up a lot as far as up and coming head coaches are Matt Campbell at Toledo, Dino Babers at Bowling Green and Jeff Brohm at Western Kentucky. I also think Doc Holliday at Marshall would be an interesting guy to look into. Also interested in people's thoughts on Mark Hudspeth.

I'd even maybe look for a top young coordinator at a power program with mass recruiting chops and give him a hella big buyout clause.

(10-17-2015 11:43 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 10:12 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 09:31 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I want coaches the rest of the world wants to pay huge $$ to hire away.

I want coaches who stay up all night working like maniacs to succeed at a level to make generational money when the opportunity presents itself. I want them to expect the same from their staff. I do not want a content head coach.

Mick is from here. It's personal. For tubby this is just another duty station on the career tour that makes his wife happy.

Not that we are actually going to move on from Tuberville (unless things go completely south the rest of the way), but who are some guys you are interested in?

I'm really interested in Doug Meacham and Sonny Cumbie the co-offensive coordinators at TCU. The job they have done completely revamping that offense is pretty awesome. They are co-offensive coordinators... I'd be interested in taking a look into both of them.

Would they have a chance at getting someone like Kirby Smart from Bama? Is Kendal Briles going to have what his father has (it's probably too early with him as this is his first year as an OC)?

Names that come up a lot as far as up and coming head coaches are Matt Campbell at Toledo, Dino Babers at Bowling Green and Jeff Brohm at Western Kentucky. I also think Doc Holliday at Marshall would be an interesting guy to look into. Also interested in people's thoughts on Mark Hudspeth.

I'd even maybe look for a top young coordinator at a power program with mass recruiting chops and give him a hella big buyout clause.

Matt Campbell is a helluva coach! He has "jump to P5" written all over him though. 31-13 overall and 2-1 bowls as the head coach at Toledo - now ranked #22. He's also the second youngest coach in FBS at 35. I was impressed with him last year when I was at PBS watching Toledo nearly beat us.

(10-17-2015 09:15 AM)subflea Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 09:04 AM)CincyBro Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 07:29 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Kind of being tongue and cheek here, with a little bit of seriousness. Remember when CBJ left and some suggested Kerry Coombs as a replacement? I know it seemed laughable at the time, but knowing what we know now on how Tubs is half asleep and he and his teams show no fire, and everyone now wanting an "up and comer". Does that idea still seem so far fetched?

Now that he has been at OSU for a couple and really worked the big time, this is exactly what should happen.

Nope. You hire a position coach to be your head coach when your budget only allows you to pay a couple hundred grand. When you can pay a couple million bucks you hire someone who has at least been a coordinator.

How about driving up I-75 and bring Matt Campbell back from Toledo? That would be my #1 candidate without putting much thought into it. I'd also look into UC alum Billy Davis who is Philadelphia's DC. Hasn't coached in college in a long time though.

(10-17-2015 11:52 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 11:43 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 10:12 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 09:31 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I want coaches the rest of the world wants to pay huge $$ to hire away.

I want coaches who stay up all night working like maniacs to succeed at a level to make generational money when the opportunity presents itself. I want them to expect the same from their staff. I do not want a content head coach.

Mick is from here. It's personal. For tubby this is just another duty station on the career tour that makes his wife happy.

Not that we are actually going to move on from Tuberville (unless things go completely south the rest of the way), but who are some guys you are interested in?

I'm really interested in Doug Meacham and Sonny Cumbie the co-offensive coordinators at TCU. The job they have done completely revamping that offense is pretty awesome. They are co-offensive coordinators... I'd be interested in taking a look into both of them.

Would they have a chance at getting someone like Kirby Smart from Bama? Is Kendal Briles going to have what his father has (it's probably too early with him as this is his first year as an OC)?

Names that come up a lot as far as up and coming head coaches are Matt Campbell at Toledo, Dino Babers at Bowling Green and Jeff Brohm at Western Kentucky. I also think Doc Holliday at Marshall would be an interesting guy to look into. Also interested in people's thoughts on Mark Hudspeth.

I'd even maybe look for a top young coordinator at a power program with mass recruiting chops and give him a hella big buyout clause.

Matt Campbell is a helluva coach! He has "jump to P5" written all over him though. 31-13 overall and 2-1 bowls as the head coach at Toledo - now ranked #22. He's also the second youngest coach in FBS at 35. I was impressed with him last year when I was at PBS watching Toledo nearly beat us.

Agreed on all points. I'm starting to take interest in Toledo.

LOL. You guys are discussing Coombs?

Yea, sure, he will have a ton of fire while going 2-10. If that's your thing, by all means, let's get him. Talk about crazy talk.

(10-17-2015 01:03 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  LOL. You guys are discussing Coombs?

Yea, sure, he will have a ton of fire while going 2-10. If that's your thing, by all means, let's get him. Talk about crazy talk.

I do not think very many are talking about Coombs

(10-17-2015 01:25 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 01:03 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  LOL. You guys are discussing Coombs?

Yea, sure, he will have a ton of fire while going 2-10. If that's your thing, by all means, let's get him. Talk about crazy talk.

I do not think very many are talking about Coombs

Agreed. I know KC. Went to CHS with his brother and I have no desire for him to lead the Bearcats. Great guy, but certainly not college HC material.

WTF, I'm a homer, and unfortunately a sucker. I'll go 8-4.

I don't see us beating Houston, at all.

Cats should beat UConn, UCF, and Tulsa at home. I have seen USF play a bunch this year and they are good enough to beat UC but not enough to the point where I would favor them. I still think 7-5 is the most likely result. If UC starts to figure it out over the next few weeks 8 or 9 wins are still in play.