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RE: 2015-2016 Men's Basketball
As of 25 January, the Golden Flashes are #22 in the Mid-Major Top 25. Does not include the win against EMU, which obviously would help.

Of the top 25, here is the breakdown by conference:

(3)
Mid-American
West Coast
MVC
Southern

(2)
Big West
Summit
Sun Belt

(1)
Horizon
America East
Atlantic Sun
Colonial
Metro Atlantic
Ohio Valley
Western Athletic

The MAC is well-represented. If the MAC can sustain this, this should help when it comes to tournament time.
01-27-2016 03:14 PM
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(01-27-2016 03:14 PM)flash77 Wrote:  The MAC is well-represented. If the MAC can sustain this, this should help when it comes to tournament time.

If you mean NIT & CBI, etc., sure, but the MAC will only get one team in the NCAA tournament this year. None of the top 3 teams (Kent, Akron and NIU) have done anything that makes them tournament worthy and I don't think any of them would get an at-large bid unless they didn't lose another game until the tournament finals.
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(01-27-2016 06:17 PM)bopol Wrote:  
(01-27-2016 03:14 PM)flash77 Wrote:  The MAC is well-represented. If the MAC can sustain this, this should help when it comes to tournament time.

If you mean NIT & CBI, etc., sure, but the MAC will only get one team in the NCAA tournament this year. None of the top 3 teams (Kent, Akron and NIU) have done anything that makes them tournament worthy and I don't think any of them would get an at-large bid unless they didn't lose another game until the tournament finals.

I agree. Kent has the best RPI at 79 with Akron at 83 and NIU at 86. Unless somebody can improve to at least the low 40's there is no chance for an at large bid. That will be tough to do with only conference games left. Even in the low 40's it's a long shot.
01-27-2016 09:58 PM
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(01-25-2016 05:31 PM)GFlash68 Wrote:  I wished the news would just stop covering the woeful ladies program. Headlines do not make the gender distinction and for those that read only headlines, they would think that our Men's program is the worst program in the country.

Well the women finally won and both the PD and ABJ made it clear it was the women's team in their headlines.
01-28-2016 09:09 AM
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I am just happy that they can beat someone.
01-28-2016 12:42 PM
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It was Lurken's pigtails. I told her she needs to keep wearing them01-ncaabbs
01-28-2016 01:01 PM
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I heard a rumor that KSU is recruiting a kid from Ellet,OH. It was in the beacon journal. He's 6'9 skinny as a rail. To me he looks like a d3 kid. He got 20 in the game I saw but it was garbage points in a blowout loss Anyone have any updates?
01-30-2016 05:34 PM
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(01-30-2016 05:34 PM)KSU93 Wrote:  I heard a rumor that KSU is recruiting a kid from Ellet,OH. It was in the beacon journal. He's 6'9 skinny as a rail. To me he looks like a d3 kid. He got 20 in the game I saw but it was garbage points in a blowout loss Anyone have any updates?

6'9" usually means D1 project. Get the kid in the weight room and hope he develops.
01-30-2016 05:51 PM
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Anyone happen to catch the UAB Marshall game on CBS Sports Network today? I ask because one, I was really impressed with the talent on both teams (guys could jump out of the gym), two, a terrible missed call at the end of the game, and three, the fan following Marshall had at the games. It wasn't a sell out, but the arena appeared fairly full. We are a much better program than Marshall is, at least recent history, so why can't we get butts in seats like that?

Also, a number of people have commented that spending time fundraising competes against selling tickets. I don't believe it's Joel's job to sell the tickets, it's his job to hire a promotional team to do it. The salaries don't need to be high, and in the overall scheme of things, what's another $300,000 in salary/benefits for 4-6 ticket promoters? Especially if offset by 500 extra attendees per home games at $10 each? Assuming 15 home games that's 75K to offset, and there is some non-revenue benefit from a better atmosphere (better pride, better recruits, and extra win or two, which builds year after year). In the long run it pays for itself and then some.
01-30-2016 06:01 PM
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Spend 300,000 to make 75,000. interesting.
01-30-2016 07:30 PM
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(01-30-2016 07:30 PM)burden Wrote:  Spend 300,000 to make 75,000. interesting.

The sarcasm dripping from your posts suggest you might be a bit short-sighted burden? Don't see the potential benefits of making a basketball game an experience? You don't think we might be able to nab a slightly better recruit or two if the lower bowl was full for every game? You don't think could lead to an additional win or two in home court advantage and multiple wins over several years due to better recruiting? You don't think these same people could make up some of the other $225K by working on football and baseball as well, to a lesser extent woman's basketball, volleyball and wrestling? You don't think a couple of extra trips to the NCAA isn't worth that money in attracting students?

You can't just look at the bottom line of the decision directly, as there are other benefits that come with building pride in a single or multiple athletic programs. You also have to invest (i.e. spend) to make. One of the main issues with our basketball attendance isn't just the product on the floor, it's the overall game experience and knowing there are other KSU maniacs like yourself and you feel like the MACC is the place to be.

It's also easy to rip on a blue sky idea...my favorite type of people are the ones that constantly complain but never provide solutions or suggestions on how to do it better. They're the best kind of people in corporate America, as sports fans, and as message board posters. Thanks for your support on my idea.
01-30-2016 08:35 PM
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Wow. A little touchy aren't you. Just to be clear I never suggested that Nielson himself should sell tickets. I stated that the 300,000 would be better spent on people going out and working on getting donations. If they brought in 600,000 instead of 75,000 maybe they could upgrade the arena and the basketball facilities, bring in better recruits and then sell some tickets. Doesn't that make some sense. I have no idea whether the numbers are right but I'm pretty sure losing 225,000 per year will not help.

I'm pretty sure a 5500 crowd every night would not change things significantly. The only time the atmosphere is bad is when the students aren't in class. Replacing them with 1000 50 year old plus fans will do nothing for the atmosphere.

I go to every game and I would really like to pay for better seats but paying 500 for the right to sit in a cracked plastic seat just doesn't interest me.
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01-30-2016 09:45 PM
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I'm operating under the assumption we've already got a lot more tied up in getting donations than ticket promotions. I make this assumption based on the number of people who pretend to be my friend and like me every time I walk into the building. I think the argument can be made we don't have the right people, but we have enough fundraisers already.

We'll have to agree to disagree on the value of 5500 people in the stands. It's amazing how much more donors give when there is the preception of success and interest in the cause they are being asked to give to. I jumped at the opportunity to give $250 for the right to buy chairbacks...it was at a time when attendance was better and we had been to a couple NCAA appearances...if I was making that same decision today I'd probably make a different one because there's not as much "special" about it...I renew because I was there for 2001-02 and have a deep passion for the program and love my seat neighbors...but the empty seats say it all..
01-30-2016 10:02 PM
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If the fundraisers aren't cutting it then put a couple on ticket promotions. That's okay just don't add an additional $225,000 per year to the hill we already have to climb.

I had yellow seats for about 3 years also. I didn't stop because of atmosphere though. I stopped because the team declined and the condition of the seats made them not worth the money. We need to spruce the place up.
01-30-2016 10:17 PM
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Only skimmed most of this so sorry if someone already made this point, but my guess for why the chairbacks are normally empty is price. My tickets are on the bench side and I think it woudl've been something like 4 times the price for the same seats on the other side.
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If twitter is any indication, the word on Pollard is not good.
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Record Courier said foot was broken and he was meeting with docs tomorrow to develop "treatment plan."

Said coaches feared he was out for season.
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Record Courier said foot was broken and he was meeting with docs tomorrow to develop "treatment plan."

Said coaches feared he was out for season.
02-01-2016 12:17 AM
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(02-01-2016 12:17 AM)cschierh Wrote:  Record Courier said foot was broken and he was meeting with docs tomorrow to develop "treatment plan."

Said coaches feared he was out for season.

Walker is too.
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