Here is CBSSports' unscientific ranking of all 351 D1 bball teams, a little something for the hoops junkies to chew on.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketba...from-1-351

85. Central Michigan
97. Kent State
126. Buffalo
131. UMass*
133. Akron
182. Western Michigan
183. Toledo
211. Northern Illinois
215. Ohio
260. Miami
263. Eastern Michigan
271. Ball State
284. Bowling Green

I agree it is unscientific and nearly worthless.

(10-13-2015 12:03 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  Here is CBSSports' unscientific ranking of all 351 D1 bball teams, a little something for the hoops junkies to chew on.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketba...from-1-351

85. Central Michigan
97. Kent State
126. Buffalo
131. UMass*
133. Akron
182. Western Michigan
183. Toledo
211. Northern Illinois
215. Ohio
260. Miami
263. Eastern Michigan
271. Ball State
284. Bowling Green

Nice to see the MAC has 4 teams in the top 144 and can remember when NIU was in the 300's.

As far as we go will be ok this year and have a strong class 2016 coming in with one offer for Brown still out.

2016 class with one Top 100

So there is such a thing as a pre-season scientific ranking that has worth?

All rankings are just guesses which is why they come out every week and they change. Just opinion to stimulate discussion and interest. Nobody complains when their team is ranked high, and they grumble about them when they're not.

Nothing is definitive except at the end of the season. I guess we could wait to discuss our teams then.

obviously there's little thought into where each team specifically fits relative to the 350 other teams but how about the stack of MAC teams top to bottom, look right, any glaring mistakes?

(10-13-2015 04:06 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  obviously there's little thought into where each team specifically fits relative to the 350 other teams but how about the stack of MAC teams top to bottom, look right, any glaring mistakes?

Buffalo should be at least 50 spots lower.

(10-13-2015 04:06 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  obviously there's little thought into where each team specifically fits relative to the 350 other teams but how about the stack of MAC teams top to bottom, look right, any glaring mistakes?

There is no way Kent is better than Akron. The Zips beat them 2 out of 3 last season including in the MAC tourney. All Akron lost were a couple of role players and Kent needs to replace a ton. The real laugher is having Buffalo rated as the third best team in the MAC. They must use a monkey throwing darts to determine these rankings.

(10-13-2015 05:40 PM)hilltopper Wrote:  

(10-13-2015 04:06 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  obviously there's little thought into where each team specifically fits relative to the 350 other teams but how about the stack of MAC teams top to bottom, look right, any glaring mistakes?

There is no way Kent is better than Akron. The Zips beat them 2 out of 3 last season including in the MAC tourney. All Akron lost were a couple of role players and Kent needs to replace a ton. The real laugher is having Buffalo rated as the third best team in the MAC. They must use a monkey throwing darts to determine these rankings.

Quote:97. Kent State: Rob Senderoff's group finished 12-6 last year in the MAC and returns All-league player Jimmy Hall. If they can replace three starters around him, they'll have a chance to compete for the league's crown.

I think its odd that he's high on them even though they have to replace 3 starters. Like that's not a big deal.

(10-13-2015 04:06 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  obviously there's little thought into where each team specifically fits relative to the 350 other teams but how about the stack of MAC teams top to bottom, look right, any glaring mistakes?

Unfortunately tough to argue with where Ohio sits. We have a lot of question marks, and that could translate to squeaking into the top 100 (at very best) or sliding about 100 spaces lower (at worst). Hard to say until the games start, but this doesn't seem unfair.

Miami certainly earns its poor ranking given our bad performance the past few years, but we lose only one player to graduation, have seven seniors, and have a P5 transfer guard eligible and ready to make a big impact. If we play like we did in late February and early March, we will do well. I have serious doubts about Cooper, but we have the potential to finish in the top half of the MAC at least.

(10-13-2015 08:19 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  Miami certainly earns its poor ranking given our bad performance the past few years, but we lose only one player to graduation, have seven seniors, and have a P5 transfer guard eligible and ready to make a big impact. If we play like we did in late February and early March, we will do well. I have serious doubts about Cooper, but we have the potential to finish in the top half of the MAC at least.

not too long ago CMU was coming in around the mid 300's, Keno has done an amazing job at CMU, a school with not a huge level of basketball success. Actually excited about hoop season

(10-14-2015 06:54 AM)cmufanatic Wrote:  

(10-13-2015 08:19 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  Miami certainly earns its poor ranking given our bad performance the past few years, but we lose only one player to graduation, have seven seniors, and have a P5 transfer guard eligible and ready to make a big impact. If we play like we did in late February and early March, we will do well. I have serious doubts about Cooper, but we have the potential to finish in the top half of the MAC at least.

not too long ago CMU was coming in around the mid 300's, Keno has done an amazing job at CMU, a school with not a huge level of basketball success. Actually excited about hoop season

CMU is where UT was last year- loaded with potential, looking great on paper. Hope they do a better job of fulfilling that than we did.

Miami will not be great, but we are underrated in this poll. We figure to be stronger than last year, but they have us rated worse. We did show improvement in the second half of the MAC season last year, and we have most of our talent returning.

(10-13-2015 07:30 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  [quote='hilltopper' pid='12497990' dateline='1444776021']
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Quote:97. Kent State: Rob Senderoff's group finished 12-6 last year in the MAC and returns All-league player Jimmy Hall. If they can replace three starters around him, they'll have a chance to compete for the league's crown.

I think its odd that he's high on them even though they have to replace 3 starters. Like that's not a big deal.

With Kent, I don't think we'll have a big step down, replacing the three guards that graduated. Yes, Manley was 2nd team MAC, and Brewer was Honorable Mention, and Derek Jackson was the best of the three. Replacing them will be Xavier Pollard (redshirted last year) who was 'America East 3rd team' in 2014, with a 14.8 scoring average in his first 3 years at Maine; Deon Edwin was a Southern Mississippi recruit, played 30 games for them as a freshman in 2012-2013, played at Laramine CC in 2013-2014 with 21.8 ppg and 7.4 rpg, redshirted at Kent last year; and Galal Cancer, a graduate transfer from Cornell where he started 30 games last year at SG with 9 ppg

And PG Kellon Thomas will be back, he missed most of last year with a facial injury

(10-13-2015 12:03 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  Here is CBSSports' unscientific ranking of all 351 D1 bball teams, a little something for the hoops junkies to chew on.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketba...from-1-351

85. Central Michigan
97. Kent State
126. Buffalo
131. UMass*
133. Akron
182. Western Michigan
183. Toledo
211. Northern Illinois
215. Ohio
260. Miami
263. Eastern Michigan
271. Ball State
284. Bowling Green

UMass is gone, gone gone in a few weeks... Can we stop politely including them in things NFR

(10-13-2015 03:05 PM)Steve1981 Wrote:  

(10-13-2015 12:03 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  Here is CBSSports' unscientific ranking of all 351 D1 bball teams, a little something for the hoops junkies to chew on.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketba...from-1-351

85. Central Michigan
97. Kent State
126. Buffalo
131. UMass*
133. Akron
182. Western Michigan
183. Toledo
211. Northern Illinois
215. Ohio
260. Miami
263. Eastern Michigan
271. Ball State
284. Bowling Green

Nice to see the MAC has 4 teams in the top 144 and can remember when NIU was in the 300's.

As far as we go will be ok this year and have a strong class 2016 coming in with one offer for Brown still out.

2016 class with one Top 100

Buffalo is way too high here in my opinion..

Despite historically splitting games with Toledo and WMU I love the fact that EMU never gets the respect it deserves even after two back to back 20 plus win seasons, I expect a small dip this year because of our lack of front court depth but we should be loaded at the wings/guard position.