I like the AAC and I think it had a great future. There is hunger for college football like never before and they will end up getting more $$. There are plenty of quality FBS caliber players to go around.

I think the AAC should really work on it's overall stature in basketball by bringing in VCU and Wichita State. They are elite programs that would fit perfectly within the defined divisions. That's 13, though, so you'd either want another BB only or you can have a 14/14 set-up with UMASS for all sports and Army for FB only. Essentially Army & Navy in football and VCU and Wichita State in other sports. Or, if you want to bring in just 3 BB only schools there are any number of other attractive candidates beyond VCU and Wichita State.

(10-09-2015 06:12 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 11:18 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 11:01 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  I think the AAC needs to go after Air Force and Army

Actually the conference should look like this:

AAC Stars Division
UConn
Temple
East Carolina
South Florida
UCF
Cincinnati
Houston
Memphis

AAC Stripes Division
Army West Point
Navy
Air Force
Tulsa
Tulane
SMU
Colorado State
New Mexico

Replace New Mexico with San Diego St. and I'm ok with this but not 100% sold however.

Id replace new mexico with Wyoming to keep air forces mountain range schools together.

Mwc could then just add new mexico st to get back to 9/10

One of the important things that gets overlooked is that part of the appeal of the army navy game is that it gets its own week and is the only fbs game that week. If they were in the same conference the game would have to be played during a very crowded rivalry week and thus the appeal it has would be decreased

(10-09-2015 12:08 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  If the American can stay together the league probably earns somewhere between $5 million and $10 million for its next TV deal. Adding Navy to the league was a huge addition, better than some of the recent additions to power five league. You could make the argument that Navy football is a better team and stronger brand at this point than the football programs at Colorado, Rutgers, Pitt, and Syracuse.

The other key is scheduling. If the American continues to land home games against "name" teams that helps add value to the TV deal. Right now I believe Notre Dame, UCLA, Ole Miss, Texas, Georgia Tech, BYU Wisconsin, Illinois, Florida State, Boise State, NC State, UNC, Virginia Tech, WVU, South Carolina, Louisville, Arizona, Texas Tech, Indiana, Nebraska, Missouri, Air Force, TCU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Stanford all have to travel to a school in the American over what would be the life of the current TV deal and the following one. Not only will the TV partner by purchasing games that include the 12 teams in the American they will continue to land top level brands from other conferences. This is one area the American is vastly different than the other leagues outside the power five.

And this is what needs to stop. As with the Aac needing TV more than Tv needs it....so too, those teams you listed don't need Aac teams as much as Aac teams and their conference desperately need those teams.

(10-09-2015 07:50 PM)4thDown Wrote:  I like the AAC and I think it had a great future. There is hunger for college football like never before and they will end up getting more $$. There are plenty of quality FBS caliber players to go around.

I think the AAC should really work on it's overall stature in basketball by bringing in VCU and Wichita State. They are elite programs that would fit perfectly within the defined divisions. That's 13, though, so you'd either want another BB only or you can have a 14/14 set-up with UMASS for all sports and Army for FB only. Essentially Army & Navy in football and VCU and Wichita State in other sports. Or, if you want to bring in just 3 BB only schools there are any number of other attractive candidates beyond VCU and Wichita State.

I disagree w/ your call for hunger. I'm not the only one who didn't give college football a single thought until about 2 weeks before the start of the season. That hasn't happened in a Long time. With the new glass ceiling on the G5, I believe Espn, Fox and the P5 are killing the sport of American Football itself. The NFL should be very concerned....

(10-10-2015 01:33 AM)Crimsonelf Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 12:08 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  If the American can stay together the league probably earns somewhere between $5 million and $10 million for its next TV deal. Adding Navy to the league was a huge addition, better than some of the recent additions to power five league. You could make the argument that Navy football is a better team and stronger brand at this point than the football programs at Colorado, Rutgers, Pitt, and Syracuse.

The other key is scheduling. If the American continues to land home games against "name" teams that helps add value to the TV deal. Right now I believe Notre Dame, UCLA, Ole Miss, Texas, Georgia Tech, BYU Wisconsin, Illinois, Florida State, Boise State, NC State, UNC, Virginia Tech, WVU, South Carolina, Louisville, Arizona, Texas Tech, Indiana, Nebraska, Missouri, Air Force, TCU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Stanford all have to travel to a school in the American over what would be the life of the current TV deal and the following one. Not only will the TV partner by purchasing games that include the 12 teams in the American they will continue to land top level brands from other conferences. This is one area the American is vastly different than the other leagues outside the power five.

And this is what needs to stop. As with the Aac needing TV more than Tv needs it....so too, those teams you listed don't need Aac teams as much as Aac teams and their conference desperately need those teams.

I'm not sure what your point is. Iowa St., Kansas, Baylor, Texas Tech, and Kansas St. need Texas and Oklahoma MUCH more than Oklahoma and Texas need Iowa State, Kansas, Baylor, Tech. , and Kansas St.

There are about 10-20 programs that are true anchor programs. Everyone else is measured by how they do when they play those programs. If you can't get regular games against those programs, you essentially don't exist in the current system.

(10-10-2015 02:50 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  There are about 10-20 programs that are true anchor programs. Everyone else is measured by how they do when they play those programs. If you can't get regular games against those programs, you essentially don't exist in the current system.

Well said.

(10-09-2015 10:10 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  "So-called Power 5"

That's like me saying "So-called President Obama" or "So-called Alabama Crimson Tide". They are called that because that's what they are.

(10-10-2015 01:33 AM)Crimsonelf Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 12:08 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  If the American can stay together the league probably earns somewhere between $5 million and $10 million for its next TV deal. Adding Navy to the league was a huge addition, better than some of the recent additions to power five league. You could make the argument that Navy football is a better team and stronger brand at this point than the football programs at Colorado, Rutgers, Pitt, and Syracuse.

The other key is scheduling. If the American continues to land home games against "name" teams that helps add value to the TV deal. Right now I believe Notre Dame, UCLA, Ole Miss, Texas, Georgia Tech, BYU Wisconsin, Illinois, Florida State, Boise State, NC State, UNC, Virginia Tech, WVU, South Carolina, Louisville, Arizona, Texas Tech, Indiana, Nebraska, Missouri, Air Force, TCU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Stanford all have to travel to a school in the American over what would be the life of the current TV deal and the following one. Not only will the TV partner by purchasing games that include the 12 teams in the American they will continue to land top level brands from other conferences. This is one area the American is vastly different than the other leagues outside the power five.

And this is what needs to stop. As with the Aac needing TV more than Tv needs it....so too, those teams you listed don't need Aac teams as much as Aac teams and their conference desperately need those teams.

The entire point of my post is that whatever TV network has the rights to the American is also picking up a bunch of extra games with top level name brands not in the American. No other conference in the so called group of five can say that. Solid scheduling in football and men's basketball allows the American to add value to their TV deal. Not only are the networks getting the 12 schools in the conference, the TV networks are picking up the rights to some really solid brands outside the league in the non-conference part of the schedule.

Just this season alone Notre Dame, Baylor, Miami Fl, Penn State, and Ole Miss will play games that fall under the American's TV deal.

(10-09-2015 12:08 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  If the American can stay together the league probably earns somewhere between $5 million and $10 million for its next TV deal.

Honestly, I can't see the AAC getting a much higher deal going forward than it has now. So, when you say "between $5 and $10 Million" (per full member per year), you could be correct, but it will likely be FAR closer to $5 MM/member/year than $10. It'll be a full contract (FB and BB) so that will help a little.

Value is not primarily determined by on-the-field quality, but by viewership and the AAC simply is an afterthought for most casual fans.

(10-10-2015 07:29 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 12:08 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  If the American can stay together the league probably earns somewhere between $5 million and $10 million for its next TV deal.

Honestly, I can't see the AAC getting a much higher deal going forward than it has now. So, when you say "between $5 and $10 Million" (per full member per year), you could be correct, but it will likely be FAR closer to $5 MM/member/year than $10. It'll be a full contract (FB and BB) so that will help a little.

Value is not primarily determined by on-the-field quality, but by viewership and the AAC simply is an afterthought for most casual fans.

Agree. I think $5 Mil is both possible and, at the same time, as good as it gets.