If you look at his stats he's playing some dominate ball right now with room to grow! That's a scary thought for opposing teams!

Last true finalist was Steve McNair and id argue Vad is doing just as well against better competition than Air McNair did at Alcorn St.
Even Armanti Edwards had some people clamoring... Where is the talk on Vad? He's clear cut Walter Payton finalist but could we get some more press on Vad the Impaler??

The INTs really hurt him.
QB Vad Lee, James Madison, Sr.- 105-154, 1420, 12 TD, 10 INT, 68.2%, 158.36 pass eff., 284 yds/gm, 75 carries, 594 yards, 7.9avg, 5 TD, 118.8 yds/gm in 5 games.

Compare that to these other FCS players' #s and I would argue he is not even the clear #1 in FCS:

WR Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington, Jr.- 46 catches, 759 yards, 16.5avg, 10 TD, 189.8 yds/gm in 4 games.
QB Kyle Lauletta, Richmond, Soph.- 70-111, 990 yards, 9 TD, 1 INT, 63.1%, 162.94 pass eff., 247.5 yds/gm, 29 carries, 35 yards, 2 TD in 4 games.
RB Troymaine Pope, Jacksonville State, Sr.- 67 carries, 610 yards, 9.1avg, 5 TD, 122 yds/gm, 3 catches, 22 yards, 7.3avg in 5 games.
QB Dakota Prukop, Montana State, Jr.- 84-131, 1348 yards, 13 TD, 2 INT, 64.1%, 180.3 pass eff., 337 yds/gm, 69 carries, 355 yards, 5.1avg, 3 TD, 88.8 yds/gm in 4 games.
QB Carson Wentz, North Dakota State, Sr.- 72-111, 924 yards, 10 TD, 64.9%, 164.9 pass eff., 231 yds/gm, 37 carries, 160 yards, 4.3avg, 4 TD in 4 games.
QB Jordan West, Eastern Washington, Jr.- 97-134, 1543 yards, 15 TD, 3 INT, 72.4%, 201.6 pass eff., 385.8 yds/gm in 4 games.

(10-07-2015 01:15 PM)Yesolitis Wrote:  The INTs really hurt him.
QB Vad Lee, James Madison, Sr.- 105-154, 1420, 12 TD, 10 INT, 68.2%, 158.36 pass eff., 284 yds/gm, 75 carries, 594 yards, 7.9avg, 5 TD, 118.8 yds/gm in 5 games.

Compare that to these other FCS players' #s and I would argue he is not even the clear #1 in FCS:

WR Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington, Jr.- 46 catches, 759 yards, 16.5avg, 10 TD, 189.8 yds/gm in 4 games.
QB Kyle Lauletta, Richmond, Soph.- 70-111, 990 yards, 9 TD, 1 INT, 63.1%, 162.94 pass eff., 247.5 yds/gm, 29 carries, 35 yards, 2 TD in 4 games.
RB Troymaine Pope, Jacksonville State, Sr.- 67 carries, 610 yards, 9.1avg, 5 TD, 122 yds/gm, 3 catches, 22 yards, 7.3avg in 5 games.
QB Dakota Prukop, Montana State, Jr.- 84-131, 1348 yards, 13 TD, 2 INT, 64.1%, 180.3 pass eff., 337 yds/gm, 69 carries, 355 yards, 5.1avg, 3 TD, 88.8 yds/gm in 4 games.
QB Carson Wentz, North Dakota State, Sr.- 72-111, 924 yards, 10 TD, 64.9%, 164.9 pass eff., 231 yds/gm, 37 carries, 160 yards, 4.3avg, 4 TD in 4 games.
QB Jordan West, Eastern Washington, Jr.- 97-134, 1543 yards, 15 TD, 3 INT, 72.4%, 201.6 pass eff., 385.8 yds/gm in 4 games.

Sure but you can't argue that throwing for over 1400 yards and rushing for just about 600 yards thru 5 games isn't dominant... more dominant than any other guy on this list.

I have no doubt that Vad is the most dynamic QB in FCS. Every time he takes off it feels like he has the opportunity to score. Good accuracy in both the short and long passing game.

Some of those interceptions were circumstantial, (deflections off refs, receiver’s hands), and not all his issues. Now he has had some bad ones (opening drive at Albany for example) and a couple where they were threw up over the middle as prayers.

I suspect that the coaching staff has told him to be aggressive and that may be part of it. It felt like he was more conservative last Saturday... don’t know if that was the weather or him being asked to be more careful.

Regardless I have confidence in Vad when the ball is in his hands. At the end of a close game would rather have the ball in his hands needing a score, rather than counting on the defense with a lead needing to make a stop. Had always been the other way around with JMU football for me.

Vad is the man.

The interception stat can be misleading. I always hate that hail-mary pass at the end of a half being intercepted, and then used in the interception total. There have been a number of deflections, I can think of three off our receivers hands and the one off the officials arm. The replay on that showed kind of a reflex lifting of the arm right up into the balls flight, almost like a volleyball players dig! Also, If you have talented receivers Coaches sometimes preach: Let your receiver make a play. OOPs well not into double coverage, which is what made Albany competitive in the first half and killed them in the second as we ran the ball.

The passing game plan against SB in the wind and rain was very conservative with no deep passes.

Wasn't it 5 or 6 in that one game alone? Certainly an anomaly, least I hope so. A better team could have eaten us alive with something like that.

(10-07-2015 02:08 PM)jmuroadwarrior Wrote:  The interception stat can be misleading. I always hate that hail-mary pass at the end of a half being intercepted, and then used in the interception total. There have been a number of deflections, I can think of three off our receivers hands and the one off the officials arm. The replay on that showed kind of a reflex lifting of the arm right up into the balls flight, almost like a volleyball players dig! Also, If you have talented receivers Coaches sometimes preach: Let your receiver make a play. OOPs well not into double coverage, which is what made Albany competitive in the first half and killed them in the second as we ran the ball.

The passing game plan against SB in the wind and rain was very conservative with no deep passes.

8 interceptions in two games is a big number. Yes there were footnotes to some of them, but i recall some addictional ones that could of been picked.

He's had a fantastic season, but that's a lot of picks in those back to back games.

That said, he's the best QB in FCS. At this point it's just the degree of awesome.

I think the better point being made by Yesolitis is that 12 TD 10 Int is an almost insurmountable perception to overcome in order to be legitimately considered for the Heisman conversation.

Vad is an incredible competitor and one of FCS' finest. But it'd have to be an otherworldly stat line to be compared to the top FBS talents.

(10-07-2015 03:08 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 02:08 PM)jmuroadwarrior Wrote:  The interception stat can be misleading. I always hate that hail-mary pass at the end of a half being intercepted, and then used in the interception total. There have been a number of deflections, I can think of three off our receivers hands and the one off the officials arm. The replay on that showed kind of a reflex lifting of the arm right up into the balls flight, almost like a volleyball players dig! Also, If you have talented receivers Coaches sometimes preach: Let your receiver make a play. OOPs well not into double coverage, which is what made Albany competitive in the first half and killed them in the second as we ran the ball.

The passing game plan against SB in the wind and rain was very conservative with no deep passes.

8 interceptions in two games is a big number. Yes there were footnotes to some of them, but i recall some addictional ones that could of been picked.

He's had a fantastic season, but that's a lot of picks in those back to back games.

That said, he's the best QB in FCS. At this point it's just the degree of awesome.

Yea, that's true too. He's a bit of a gambler, no doubt. So much for conservative, smash mouth football!

What was the saying they were using? All in(?), All out(?), Full throttle, no fear, something like that. I guess he's got the green light no matter the circumstance.

Fun to watch if nothing else, and certainly so far, so good.

JMUDunk

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Brian

(10-07-2015 03:15 PM)bjk3047 Wrote:  I think the better point being made by Yesolitis is that 12 TD 10 Int is an almost insurmountable perception to overcome in order to be legitimately considered for the Heisman conversation.

Vad is an incredible competitor and one of FCS' finest. But it'd have to be an otherworldly stat line to be compared to the top FBS talents.

I agree. Cancel this thread.