(10-08-2015 11:33 AM)sportsfan Wrote:  

(10-08-2015 10:55 AM)7 Wrote:  

(10-08-2015 02:23 AM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 12:08 PM)7 Wrote:  I have said that multiple times, both on here and on twitter in last 4 days.

Armed with new information, I want to take back those comments.

Drew Hare isn't healthy. I'm not going to go into details, but he's not.

It was less throwing poop at the wall and hoping it sticks, and more hoping Graham could function better than a less than 100% Hare.

If you want to keep ripping Carey, Cole, Hare, etc, but due to transfers (Root, McIntosh) and injuries (Hare, Maddie), they're in a really difficult spot right now.

So, is he injured or not? If he's injured, why does he come right back in the game after Graham throws the pick?

That leads to two possible conclusions; one this information you are armed with is inaccurate, or two, Coach Carey doesn't really care that his kid is injured.

So if the information is inaccurate, it's still an all time dumb coaching decision, correct? And if your information IS correct, then Coach Carey should be condemned for not caring about the safety of a twenty year old student athlete. He pulls out the injured player, only to return him when the backup proves to be ineffective.

Strangely, you wrote the post trying to defend your heroic Coach. You have just made me think even less of him, though.

Does anybody care what you think? It's football. Guys play through pain/injuries all the time. It had nothing to do with a concussion.

Fact is that anybody can get knocked a bit "woozy" and not be concussed. And, the other fact is that there are a number of trainers and the team doctor on the sidelines any of which can overrule a coaches decision to play an individual if they think that there is something seriously wrong. To suggest that Carey, any of his staff or the athletic trainers would let an athlete compete if not healthy enough is ignorant.

You've hit the nail on the head - that's precisely what Seven suggested. He stated that Coach Carey pulled Drew Hare because he wasn't healthy. Shockingly, Coach Carey flipped and put his unhealthy quarterback right back in the game.

Seven, I'm sure this poster didn't mean any harm by calling you ignorant. I think you're a nice guy! Just a bit misguided, that's all

(10-07-2015 03:07 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  Raising the issue of the coaching staff not going through the concussion protocol with Hare is totally uncalled for. None of us knows whether Hare was concussed or whether he went through the protocol while he was on the sidelines.

There is zero reason to think that this coaching staff would be stupid enough to be that negligent and irresponsible. Zero.

I have to agree 100% with MD too. Yes maybe the coaching staff didn't know how big of a hit he took, and maybe he wasn't concussed, but anybody who was watching the game on espn 3 knows that he was knocked silly at the very least. He took a hard helmet to helmet hit to the side of his head, a very dangerous spot to take a head shot. Add that to whatever other hand/thumb/shoulder injury he might have and its not good. Lets get Hare healthy

(10-08-2015 10:54 PM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  

(10-08-2015 11:33 AM)sportsfan Wrote:  

(10-08-2015 10:55 AM)7 Wrote:  

(10-08-2015 02:23 AM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 12:08 PM)7 Wrote:  I have said that multiple times, both on here and on twitter in last 4 days.

Armed with new information, I want to take back those comments.

Drew Hare isn't healthy. I'm not going to go into details, but he's not.

It was less throwing poop at the wall and hoping it sticks, and more hoping Graham could function better than a less than 100% Hare.

If you want to keep ripping Carey, Cole, Hare, etc, but due to transfers (Root, McIntosh) and injuries (Hare, Maddie), they're in a really difficult spot right now.

So, is he injured or not? If he's injured, why does he come right back in the game after Graham throws the pick?

That leads to two possible conclusions; one this information you are armed with is inaccurate, or two, Coach Carey doesn't really care that his kid is injured.

So if the information is inaccurate, it's still an all time dumb coaching decision, correct? And if your information IS correct, then Coach Carey should be condemned for not caring about the safety of a twenty year old student athlete. He pulls out the injured player, only to return him when the backup proves to be ineffective.

Strangely, you wrote the post trying to defend your heroic Coach. You have just made me think even less of him, though.

Does anybody care what you think? It's football. Guys play through pain/injuries all the time. It had nothing to do with a concussion.

Fact is that anybody can get knocked a bit "woozy" and not be concussed. And, the other fact is that there are a number of trainers and the team doctor on the sidelines any of which can overrule a coaches decision to play an individual if they think that there is something seriously wrong. To suggest that Carey, any of his staff or the athletic trainers would let an athlete compete if not healthy enough is ignorant.

You've hit the nail on the head - that's precisely what Seven suggested. He stated that Coach Carey pulled Drew Hare because he wasn't healthy. Shockingly, Coach Carey flipped and put his unhealthy quarterback right back in the game.

Seven, I'm sure this poster didn't mean any harm by calling you ignorant. I think you're a nice guy! Just a bit misguided, that's all

But 7 is not suggesting it was a concussion, it is a different injury that was affecting his play on Saturday. It was probably the type of injury that you won't do anymore harm to by playing, its just if you can put up with the suckiness while playing with the injury.

You know it's bad when MD is defending me lol

(10-07-2015 02:09 PM)7 Wrote:  As for the RB carries, if you think after using three RBs the last two years, Carey and Cole woke up during fall camp this year and decided, hey I only want ACRB carrying the ball, I don't know what to tell you.

For whatever reason, they don't trust Huff.

The coaches only want Hare and ACRB handling the ball! They don't trust others with talent to do ANYTHING outside of running the play called. So ANYTHING outside of that your A$$ will sit and not get the ball anymore!! Hence, 4 (four) damn touches; but the longest YPC and the longest run at thew position and averages for the year. Sounds like Huff should get more touches!!

(10-09-2015 11:37 AM)7 Wrote:  You know it's bad when MD is defending me lol

LOL. He doesn't realize we're just clowning around, Seven! Tongue is firmly planted in cheek, MD

(10-07-2015 10:24 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 09:42 PM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 08:14 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 04:21 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 04:19 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  MD, I was at the game how in hell do you know his eyes were rolling in the back of his head. This is the type of stuff that is so irresponsible you should be banned from this board. The accusation you are making is so beyond the pale, even suggesting it is irresponsible. If you think for a minute we don't have a responsible protical for concussions then you are dummer then your posts. PJ was going to sue a poster, I'd sue you if I was the staff. Man, shutup

Well if you were at the game, then you didn't see jackcrap, but then again you usually do not know your rear from your head so it doesn't really matter. On TV, Hare was not with it, it was very very obvious. People on the board were discussing it in real time, it was obvious there was an issue. I am not saying the coaching staff should have identified, but everyone needs to be more aware of these type of issues because ideally Hare would have been examined after that play.

Watching the replay again, it is pretty obvious to me Hare has a right thumb injury.

I saw the same thing MD. He got popped to the head and got up all groggy. They zoomed in on Drew and he looked really disoriented and glossy eyed.

GCD...you are a blowhard, quit acting like a big shot ya twit. Only a true dbag threatens to sue.

what play during the game are you guys referring to?
can you provide a time/qtr etc, Id like to see this play.

Can't remember the exact time of game, but in the ESPN3 replay, it is approximately at 2:05:25 and they show a replay of it at about 2:06:00. It did not look like a real violent hit but it really shook him up, not sure what happened.

Finally got to watch this play.

He did take a big shot, not sure how bad it was. He seemed ok, probably helped him that the next play had a cmu injury that held the game up for a little bit

I did not see enough in the video to draw any conclusions