I've never heard this idea before but what if the B1G decided they wanted the Boston Market badly enough to add Boston College into the conference?

Pros for the B1G:

1) Boston Market. Will give the B1G another huge media market to work with on the East Coast. Fits in with the NY (Rutgers) and DC (Maryland) strategy to promote the Big Ten along the East Coast.

2) B1G Hockey. Boston College can help the B1G in Hockey with its program and help get Hockey to be a bigger item on the B1G network.

3) Academics. It would add a second private school to the conference to go with Northwestern. BC is well rated in the USWNR. Definitely more highly rated than Syracuse.

Would Boston College consider leaving the ACC for the B1G? Trade games against Pitt and Syracuse for Penn State and Rutgers. Earn a ton more TV money than before.

Boston College is 401-500 level research institution in the ARWU rankings. It's not really like the rest of the B1G.

Boston College is at best the third highest ranked school in the Boston market, there are two other AAU schools in the market. I know I often say that AAU isn't the end all but I do say it is a pretty big deal and taking the third best school in the city when the two above are both AAU? Not happening.

The only reason I could see why the B1G would be interested in Boston Market is for their chicken. Certainly not for BC.

BU and BC have both been approached by the BTHC and the NCHC and we're turned down flat. They like Hockey East.

What if my sister had balls, y'know? Then she'd be my brother!

What if a frog had wings? Then what?

(10-06-2015 06:57 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Boston College is at best the third highest ranked school in the Boston market, there are two other AAU schools in the market. I know I often say that AAU isn't the end all but I do say it is a pretty big deal and taking the third best school in the city when the two above are both AAU? Not happening.

Um....who are the two above? Remember, BC shares the Greater Boston area with other universities like Harvard, MIT, etc. perhaps you have heard of them? (Just kidding!). BTW, if you are comparing BC to BU, BC is #30 In the USN&WR, BU is #41. I realize rankings are subjective and other rankings may be different, but BC is a top-30 school in the most recognized ranking in the country - the one that schools splash any recognition from it across their websites.

(10-06-2015 07:08 PM)NoDak Wrote:  BU and BC have both been approached by the BTHC and the NCHC and we're turned down flat. They like Hockey East.

100% accurate. BC and BU are tied to the hip, hockey-wise. Just think of it - two schools, historic hockey rivals, just a few miles apart on Commonwealth Avenue - with TEN NATIONAL TITLES between them (5 apiece).

(10-06-2015 07:46 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(10-06-2015 06:57 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Boston College is at best the third highest ranked school in the Boston market, there are two other AAU schools in the market. I know I often say that AAU isn't the end all but I do say it is a pretty big deal and taking the third best school in the city when the two above are both AAU? Not happening.

Um....who are the two above? Remember, BC shares the Greater Boston area with other universities like Harvard, MIT, etc. perhaps you have heard of them? (Just kidding!). BTW, if you are comparing BC to BU, BC is #30 In the USN&WR, BU is #41. I realize rankings are subjective and other rankings may be different, but BC is a top-30 school in the most recognized ranking in the country - the one that schools splash any recognition from it across their websites.

Relax, BC is a fine little Jesuit school. It doesn't fit with the Big Ten though and it is in an academically saturated market area.

I was thinking Harvard and BU in regards to AAU member schools that play sports.

Just because I stated BC was third, that wasn't a slight, it is just a statement of fact in regards to the situation in Boston. Boston has some great schools.

MIT is AAU as well in the Boston market.

U. Mass. is much more higher in research academics than BC.

Boston College is a quality school that does not fit in the current Big Ten mold. If given an invite, they should jump at the chance to join the Big Ten but I find it extremely unlikely they would be offered unless something drastic and unforeseen happens.

(10-06-2015 07:59 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  MIT is AAU as well in the Boston market.

U. Mass. is much more higher in research academics than BC.

I didn't just say AAU, I said AAU with sports programs. Does MIT have any?

MIT is DIII. Used to work with MIT grads: one gal was a borderline psycho formerly on their volleyball team.

There are some, shall we say, unique individuals that go to MIT. I think part of the admission requirement is being somewhat off the wall.

(10-06-2015 07:46 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(10-06-2015 06:57 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Boston College is at best the third highest ranked school in the Boston market, there are two other AAU schools in the market. I know I often say that AAU isn't the end all but I do say it is a pretty big deal and taking the third best school in the city when the two above are both AAU? Not happening.

Um....who are the two above? Remember, BC shares the Greater Boston area with other universities like Harvard, MIT, etc. perhaps you have heard of them? (Just kidding!). BTW, if you are comparing BC to BU, BC is #30 In the USN&WR, BU is #41. I realize rankings are subjective and other rankings may be different, but BC is a top-30 school in the most recognized ranking in the country - the one that schools splash any recognition from it across their websites.

I noticed that.

Where is Notre Dame in the USN&WR rankings? Boston College might be higher.

My point is if Notre Dame is good enough academically for the B1G so is Boston College.

(10-06-2015 10:04 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(10-06-2015 07:46 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(10-06-2015 06:57 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Boston College is at best the third highest ranked school in the Boston market, there are two other AAU schools in the market. I know I often say that AAU isn't the end all but I do say it is a pretty big deal and taking the third best school in the city when the two above are both AAU? Not happening.

Um....who are the two above? Remember, BC shares the Greater Boston area with other universities like Harvard, MIT, etc. perhaps you have heard of them? (Just kidding!). BTW, if you are comparing BC to BU, BC is #30 In the USN&WR, BU is #41. I realize rankings are subjective and other rankings may be different, but BC is a top-30 school in the most recognized ranking in the country - the one that schools splash any recognition from it across their websites.

I noticed that.

Where is Notre Dame in the USN&WR rankings? Boston College might be higher.

My point is if Notre Dame is good enough academically for the B1G so is Boston College.

Notre Dame wouldn't be getting in due to their academics. At this point, considering how long we have all been having these discussions, it boggles me how people do not understand that these situations are complex.

Can you not figure out that schools are looked at for their strengths? What makes one schools a strong choice could be different than what makes a different school a strong choice.

Hell, at this point we don't actually know that Big Ten Presidents would give Notre Dame an invite. It is just people assuming based upon a very old matrix.

(10-06-2015 07:51 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-06-2015 07:46 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(10-06-2015 06:57 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Boston College is at best the third highest ranked school in the Boston market, there are two other AAU schools in the market. I know I often say that AAU isn't the end all but I do say it is a pretty big deal and taking the third best school in the city when the two above are both AAU? Not happening.

Um....who are the two above? Remember, BC shares the Greater Boston area with other universities like Harvard, MIT, etc. perhaps you have heard of them? (Just kidding!). BTW, if you are comparing BC to BU, BC is #30 In the USN&WR, BU is #41. I realize rankings are subjective and other rankings may be different, but BC is a top-30 school in the most recognized ranking in the country - the one that schools splash any recognition from it across their websites.

Relax, BC is a fine little Jesuit school. It doesn't fit with the Big Ten though and it is in an academically saturated market area.

I was thinking Harvard and BU in regards to AAU member schools that play sports.

Just because I stated BC was third, that wasn't a slight, it is just a statement of fact in regards to the situation in Boston. Boston has some great schools.

While not huge by any means, Boston College is hardly a "little" school. It has 14,100 students - 9,100 undergrads and 5,000 grad students. That's a solid mid-sized school by any definition.

I don't think BC is the third school in Boston. Based on the USN&WR, it is actually 4th - which says something about Boston when a top-30 school is FOURTH in Boston!

Here are the latest USN&WR rankings:

#2: Harvard
#7: MIT
#27: Tufts
#30: BC
#34: Brandeis
#41: BU
#47: Northeastern

How about that! SEVEN Boston area schools in the top-50!

FWIW, I do agree with the other sentiments that BC's academic profile fits much better with the ACC - where's almost half of the conference schools are highly regarded private schools or highly regarded public schools that seem more private (GT) - than the BiG (where only one school is private).

(10-06-2015 09:13 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-06-2015 07:59 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  MIT is AAU as well in the Boston market.

U. Mass. is much more higher in research academics than BC.

I didn't just say AAU, I said AAU with sports programs. Does MIT have any?

MIT plays football and other sports at D3. They do have 3 sports competing at D1. Rifle, Rowing, Fencing.
They used to have men's hockey at D1, but they dropped the sport.

(10-06-2015 10:04 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(10-06-2015 07:46 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(10-06-2015 06:57 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Boston College is at best the third highest ranked school in the Boston market, there are two other AAU schools in the market. I know I often say that AAU isn't the end all but I do say it is a pretty big deal and taking the third best school in the city when the two above are both AAU? Not happening.

Um....who are the two above? Remember, BC shares the Greater Boston area with other universities like Harvard, MIT, etc. perhaps you have heard of them? (Just kidding!). BTW, if you are comparing BC to BU, BC is #30 In the USN&WR, BU is #41. I realize rankings are subjective and other rankings may be different, but BC is a top-30 school in the most recognized ranking in the country - the one that schools splash any recognition from it across their websites.

I noticed that.

Where is Notre Dame in the USN&WR rankings? Boston College might be higher.

My point is if Notre Dame is good enough academically for the B1G so is Boston College.

#19, I believe. I am too lazy to look it up, though.