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(10-08-2015 10:12 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 10:09 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(10-06-2015 09:40 AM)VA49er Wrote:  More PC nonsense. Interesting enough, the mother had no issue as to who allowed the "workers" to come over in the first place. Peoples lack of historical knowledge is sad.

McGraw-Hill to Rewrite Textbook After Mom’s Complaint

So you don't find anything wrong with a textbook that calls slaves "workers"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade

Nope, just more PC nonsense. Why didn't the lady raise a fuss about where the slaves came from?

The textbook correctly identifies the location where the slaves came from. Why should she have a problem with that?

https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/mcgraw-h...40446.html
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(10-08-2015 10:19 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 10:12 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 10:09 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(10-06-2015 09:40 AM)VA49er Wrote:  More PC nonsense. Interesting enough, the mother had no issue as to who allowed the "workers" to come over in the first place. Peoples lack of historical knowledge is sad.

McGraw-Hill to Rewrite Textbook After Mom’s Complaint

So you don't find anything wrong with a textbook that calls slaves "workers"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade

Nope, just more PC nonsense. Why didn't the lady raise a fuss about where the slaves came from?

The textbook correctly identifies the location where the slaves came from. Why should she have a problem with that?

https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/mcgraw-h...40446.html

lol, such is the state of our schools today. Unbelievable.
10-08-2015 10:20 AM
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RE: McGraw-Hill to Rewrite Textbook After Mom’s Complaint
(10-08-2015 10:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 10:19 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 10:12 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 10:09 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(10-06-2015 09:40 AM)VA49er Wrote:  More PC nonsense. Interesting enough, the mother had no issue as to who allowed the "workers" to come over in the first place. Peoples lack of historical knowledge is sad.

McGraw-Hill to Rewrite Textbook After Mom’s Complaint

So you don't find anything wrong with a textbook that calls slaves "workers"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade

Nope, just more PC nonsense. Why didn't the lady raise a fuss about where the slaves came from?

The textbook correctly identifies the location where the slaves came from. Why should she have a problem with that?

https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/mcgraw-h...40446.html

lol, such is the state of our schools today. Unbelievable.

Are you in disagreement with the textbook in stating that these people came from Africa?
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RE: McGraw-Hill to Rewrite Textbook After Mom’s Complaint
(10-08-2015 11:40 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 10:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 10:19 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 10:12 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 10:09 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  So you don't find anything wrong with a textbook that calls slaves "workers"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade

Nope, just more PC nonsense. Why didn't the lady raise a fuss about where the slaves came from?

The textbook correctly identifies the location where the slaves came from. Why should she have a problem with that?

https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/mcgraw-h...40446.html

lol, such is the state of our schools today. Unbelievable.

Are you in disagreement with the textbook in stating that these people came from Africa?

Think a little deeper. I know that's frowned upon in schools these days.
10-08-2015 11:41 AM
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RE: McGraw-Hill to Rewrite Textbook After Mom’s Complaint
(10-08-2015 11:41 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 11:40 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 10:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 10:19 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 10:12 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Nope, just more PC nonsense. Why didn't the lady raise a fuss about where the slaves came from?

The textbook correctly identifies the location where the slaves came from. Why should she have a problem with that?

https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/mcgraw-h...40446.html

lol, such is the state of our schools today. Unbelievable.

Are you in disagreement with the textbook in stating that these people came from Africa?

Think a little deeper. I know that's frowned upon in schools these days.

What recent experience do you have in school because it has been my experience that the opposite is true.

http://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED288824
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RE: McGraw-Hill to Rewrite Textbook After Mom’s Complaint
(10-08-2015 11:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 11:41 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 11:40 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 10:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 10:19 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The textbook correctly identifies the location where the slaves came from. Why should she have a problem with that?

https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/mcgraw-h...40446.html

lol, such is the state of our schools today. Unbelievable.

Are you in disagreement with the textbook in stating that these people came from Africa?

Think a little deeper. I know that's frowned upon in schools these days.

What recent experience do you have in school because it has been my experience that the opposite is true.

http://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED288824

Well then practice what you preach.
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This is where the SJW reflex of our nation is ruining people.

It is quite reasonable to see that graphic and say "wow! That's really worded terribly and I think you should change it in future publications".

It's another thing to jump up and down about how we are white washing slavery and demand all old copies of the books be recalled.

Lets look at definitions -

Worker - a person or thing that works.
Slave - a person who is the property of and wholly subject to another; a bond servant.
Migration - a number or body of persons or animals migrating together.

Nothing in the definition of being a worker or a migrant requires it be voluntary. Nothing in the graphic is wrong, it's just awkward.
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(10-08-2015 12:03 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 11:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 11:41 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 11:40 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 10:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  lol, such is the state of our schools today. Unbelievable.

Are you in disagreement with the textbook in stating that these people came from Africa?

Think a little deeper. I know that's frowned upon in schools these days.

What recent experience do you have in school because it has been my experience that the opposite is true.

http://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED288824

Well then practice what you preach.

I did for more than a decade? For how long did you teach?
10-08-2015 12:59 PM
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(10-08-2015 12:59 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 12:03 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 11:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 11:41 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 11:40 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Are you in disagreement with the textbook in stating that these people came from Africa?

Think a little deeper. I know that's frowned upon in schools these days.

What recent experience do you have in school because it has been my experience that the opposite is true.

http://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED288824

Well then practice what you preach.

I did for more than a decade? For how long did you teach?

Did you teach that it was Africans that sold Africans? Just curious as that sure isn't what I was taught. Anyway, just because someone taught something for X years is in no way correlated to them being an expert on the subject.
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RE: McGraw-Hill to Rewrite Textbook After Mom’s Complaint
(10-08-2015 02:57 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 12:59 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 12:03 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 11:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 11:41 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Think a little deeper. I know that's frowned upon in schools these days.

What recent experience do you have in school because it has been my experience that the opposite is true.

http://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED288824

Well then practice what you preach.

I did for more than a decade? For how long did you teach?

Did you teach that it was Africans that sold Africans? Just curious as that sure isn't what I was taught. Anyway, just because someone taught something for X years is in no way correlated to them being an expert on the subject.

First of all I never claimed to be an expert on the subject.

That said, i did teach that Africans sold other Africans into slavery. That isn't unusual. Tribes typically enslaved their enemies. However, the increase in demand by European countries changed that somewhat.


Slavery was practiced in diverse ways in the different communities of West Africa prior to European trade.[18] With the development of the trans-Saharan slave trade and the economies of gold in the Western Sahel, a number of the major states became organized around the slave trade, including the Ghana Empire, the Mali Empire, and Songhai Empire.[47] However, other communities in West Africa largely resisted the slave trade. The Mossi Kingdoms tried to take over key sites in the trans-Saharan trade and, when these efforts failed, the Mossi became defenders against slave raiding by the powerful states of the Western Sahel. The Mossi would eventually enter the slave trade in the 1800s with the Atlantic slave trade being the main market.[47] Similarly, Walter Rodney identified no slavery or significant domestic servitude in early European accounts on the Upper Guinea region[8] and I. A. Akinjogbin contends that European accounts reveal that the slave trade was not a major activity along the coast controlled by the Yoruba people and Aja people before Europeans arrived.[48] In a paper read to the Ethnological Society of London in 1866, the vice-roy of Lokoja Mr.T. Valentine Robins, who accompanied the expedition up the River Niger aboard the HMS Investigator in 1864 described slavery in the region:

Upon slavery Mr Robins remarked that it was not what people in England thought it to be. It means, as continually found in this part of Africa, belonging to a family group-there is no compulsory labour, the owner and the slave work together, eat the like food, wear the like clothing and sleep in the same huts. Some slaves have more wives than their masters. It gives protection to the slaves and everything necessary for their subsistence- food and clothing. A free man is worse off than a slave; he cannot claim his food from anyone.[49]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa
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(10-08-2015 03:06 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 02:57 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 12:59 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 12:03 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 11:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  What recent experience do you have in school because it has been my experience that the opposite is true.

http://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED288824

Well then practice what you preach.

I did for more than a decade? For how long did you teach?

Did you teach that it was Africans that sold Africans? Just curious as that sure isn't what I was taught. Anyway, just because someone taught something for X years is in no way correlated to them being an expert on the subject.


Slavery was practiced in diverse ways in the different communities of West Africa prior to European trade.

So when slavery happens in Africa it is "diverse."

HOLY **** if someone described slavery in America as "diverse."
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(10-08-2015 03:14 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 03:06 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 02:57 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 12:59 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(10-08-2015 12:03 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Well then practice what you preach.

I did for more than a decade? For how long did you teach?

Did you teach that it was Africans that sold Africans? Just curious as that sure isn't what I was taught. Anyway, just because someone taught something for X years is in no way correlated to them being an expert on the subject.


Slavery was practiced in diverse ways in the different communities of West Africa prior to European trade.

So when slavery happens in Africa it is "diverse."

HOLY **** if someone described slavery in America as "diverse."

That's because slavery in America wasn't diverse at all.

Historically, the status of slave had become a caste associated with African ancestry, contributing to a system and legacy in which race played an influential role.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in...ted_States
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A caste system is "diverse"?

Someone freaking kill me.
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Well I learned something in all this on another board discussing the topic. I didn't know they enslaved the Irish. They sent over 100,000 to the Americas as slaves as the English were trying to pacify Ireland (and I doubted this, so I did find confirmation in other links).

"King James II and Charles I led a continued effort to enslave the Irish. Britain’s famed Oliver Cromwell furthered this practice of dehumanizing one’s next door neighbor.

The Irish slave trade began when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves.

Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white.

From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain’s solution was to auction them off as well.

During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers."
http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/seso...te-slaves/
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