Austin, IMO, was a really good player and we will need to find ways to replace his production. Fortunately, Shaq is a senior and D. Lawson is a high profile recruit who added muscle during the off season.

(10-05-2015 04:28 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Austin, IMO, was a really good player and we will need to find ways to replace his production. Fortunately, Shaq is a senior and D. Lawson is a high profile recruit who added muscle during the off season.

To piggy back this post, chemistry and fit matter and sometimes you can lose a great player and actually improve. Basketball is pretty unique in that the mix of players and how they interact is pretty volatile.

(10-05-2015 04:57 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 04:28 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Austin, IMO, was a really good player and we will need to find ways to replace his production. Fortunately, Shaq is a senior and D. Lawson is a high profile recruit who added muscle during the off season.

To piggy back this post, chemistry and fit matter and sometimes you can lose a great player and actually improve. Basketball is pretty unique in that the mix of players and how they interact is pretty volatile.

All I know is that if Austin was truly a team player, he would still be playing this season instead of sitting out for good fortune to drop on his his shoulders.

(10-05-2015 05:51 PM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 04:57 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 04:28 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Austin, IMO, was a really good player and we will need to find ways to replace his production. Fortunately, Shaq is a senior and D. Lawson is a high profile recruit who added muscle during the off season.

To piggy back this post, chemistry and fit matter and sometimes you can lose a great player and actually improve. Basketball is pretty unique in that the mix of players and how they interact is pretty volatile.

All I know is that if Austin was truly a team player, he would still be playing this season instead of sitting out for good fortune to drop on his his shoulders.

No offense meant by this, but I'd be willing to wager you (and for that matter I, or most posters) do not know enough about his situation to say ill of him or CJP.

If I'm wrong and you have personal, first hand knowledge of said situation, accept my apology. Otherwise, I'd wager you're just guessing.

It is not my imagination that tells me that he is sitting out this season.
It doesn't take a whole lot of judgement skills to say that he is wasting his time.

If you stay, you're the hero. If you leave, you're the goat. Signed - Charlie Brown message board.

(10-05-2015 06:32 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  If you stay, you're the hero. If you leave, you're the goat. Signed - Charlie Brown message board.

Not true. In Memphis' case, it's always Pastner's fault.

(10-05-2015 06:30 PM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  It is not my imagination that tells me that he is sitting out this season.
It doesn't take a whole lot of judgement skills to say that he is wasting his time.

1. The quote: "All I know is that if Austin was truly a team player..."

Yet your response talks about 'wasting his time', which is not the same thing as 'being a team player'.

2. It's his life. If he feels a different situation is better for him, It's really not our place to tell him otherwise. We can have opinions on whether or not that is best for his career, but it's his life and thus, his decision.

I personally think he might want to develop in a different, more front court heavy system and I think he'll fit in marvelously at UVA. I wish he was still here b/c he is a tremendous player, but I'll be ok.

3. On the wasting your time thing, lots of players transfer and use that year to lift, get stronger, and get a different coaching perspective, most recently Kyle Wiltjer, who has some career similarities to AN.

This story outlines the positives of a 'wasted' year.

http://grantland.com/features/ncaa-colle...mpionship/

>>>

To be concise:

1. "Being a team player" and "wasting time" are two separate issues.
2. Transfers happen and it's his life.
3. Some players improve mightily with a year off, perhaps AN thinks this is him.

Again, if you know for a fact that AN is not a team player, then I'll defer, but it seems like you are simply stating an opinion, which you are certainly entitled to of course...

Can't say I've given a thought to it. When is the first game, 6 weeks or so?

(10-05-2015 06:55 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Can't say I've given a thought to it. When is the first game, 6 weeks or so?

The LMO game is about a month away (11/6/15).

http://www.gotigersgo.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball

(10-05-2015 07:13 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 06:55 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Can't say I've given a thought to it. When is the first game, 6 weeks or so?

The LMO game is about a month away (11/6/15).

http://www.gotigersgo.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball

Let's get it.

(10-05-2015 06:46 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 06:30 PM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  It is not my imagination that tells me that he is sitting out this season.
It doesn't take a whole lot of judgement skills to say that he is wasting his time.

1. The quote: "All I know is that if Austin was truly a team player..."

Yet your response talks about 'wasting his time', which is not the same thing as 'being a team player'.

2. It's his life. If he feels a different situation is better for him, It's really not our place to tell him otherwise. We can have opinions on whether or not that is best for his career, but it's his life and thus, his decision.

I personally think he might want to develop in a different, more front court heavy system and I think he'll fit in marvelously at UVA. I wish he was still here b/c he is a tremendous player, but I'll be ok.

3. On the wasting your time thing, lots of players transfer and use that year to lift, get stronger, and get a different coaching perspective, most recently Kyle Wiltjer, who has some career similarities to AN.

This story outlines the positives of a 'wasted' year.

http://grantland.com/features/ncaa-colle...mpionship/

>>>

To be concise:

1. "Being a team player" and "wasting time" are two separate issues.
2. Transfers happen and it's his life.
3. Some players improve mightily with a year off, perhaps AN thinks this is him.

Again, if you know for a fact that AN is not a team player, then I'll defer, but it seems like you are simply stating an opinion, which you are certainly entitled to of course...

Kyle left UK because he saw he was going to become less of a factor while Austin left Memphis when he was going to be the focal point. Kyle moved much closer to home while Austin moved very far away. I don't see how that is any way similar in their career choices.

The only similarities between Kyle Wiltjer and Austin is there skin color and lack of athleticism. Two totally different players. Kyle has guard skills with the ball could shoot it from deep and has a much more complete game, he had that when he got to UK.

All of that said...I think Austin is going to be a better player at UVA then he could have been at Memphis. His improvement at Memphis would have been because of him, I think the UVA staff will help him improve.

(10-05-2015 07:21 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 06:46 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 06:30 PM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  It is not my imagination that tells me that he is sitting out this season.
It doesn't take a whole lot of judgement skills to say that he is wasting his time.

1. The quote: "All I know is that if Austin was truly a team player..."

Yet your response talks about 'wasting his time', which is not the same thing as 'being a team player'.

2. It's his life. If he feels a different situation is better for him, It's really not our place to tell him otherwise. We can have opinions on whether or not that is best for his career, but it's his life and thus, his decision.

I personally think he might want to develop in a different, more front court heavy system and I think he'll fit in marvelously at UVA. I wish he was still here b/c he is a tremendous player, but I'll be ok.

3. On the wasting your time thing, lots of players transfer and use that year to lift, get stronger, and get a different coaching perspective, most recently Kyle Wiltjer, who has some career similarities to AN.

This story outlines the positives of a 'wasted' year.

http://grantland.com/features/ncaa-colle...mpionship/

>>>

To be concise:

1. "Being a team player" and "wasting time" are two separate issues.
2. Transfers happen and it's his life.
3. Some players improve mightily with a year off, perhaps AN thinks this is him.

Again, if you know for a fact that AN is not a team player, then I'll defer, but it seems like you are simply stating an opinion, which you are certainly entitled to of course...

The only similarities between Kyle Wiltjer and Austin is there skin color and lack of athleticism. Two totally different players. Kyle has guard skills with the ball and has a much more complete game, he had that when he got to UK.

Point granted, but AN might think a year sitting would help him with training and his body.

Certainly not comparing their games in the least (low post player vs. a stretch type). Probably wasn't clear.

(10-05-2015 07:23 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 07:21 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 06:46 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 06:30 PM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  It is not my imagination that tells me that he is sitting out this season.
It doesn't take a whole lot of judgement skills to say that he is wasting his time.

1. The quote: "All I know is that if Austin was truly a team player..."

Yet your response talks about 'wasting his time', which is not the same thing as 'being a team player'.

2. It's his life. If he feels a different situation is better for him, It's really not our place to tell him otherwise. We can have opinions on whether or not that is best for his career, but it's his life and thus, his decision.

I personally think he might want to develop in a different, more front court heavy system and I think he'll fit in marvelously at UVA. I wish he was still here b/c he is a tremendous player, but I'll be ok.

3. On the wasting your time thing, lots of players transfer and use that year to lift, get stronger, and get a different coaching perspective, most recently Kyle Wiltjer, who has some career similarities to AN.

This story outlines the positives of a 'wasted' year.

http://grantland.com/features/ncaa-colle...mpionship/

>>>

To be concise:

1. "Being a team player" and "wasting time" are two separate issues.
2. Transfers happen and it's his life.
3. Some players improve mightily with a year off, perhaps AN thinks this is him.

Again, if you know for a fact that AN is not a team player, then I'll defer, but it seems like you are simply stating an opinion, which you are certainly entitled to of course...

The only similarities between Kyle Wiltjer and Austin is there skin color and lack of athleticism. Two totally different players. Kyle has guard skills with the ball and has a much more complete game, he had that when he got to UK.

Point granted, but AN might think a year sitting would help him with training and his body.

Certainly not comparing their games in the least (low post player vs. a stretch type). Probably wasn't clear.

I agree...

I think Austin is going to be a better player at UVA then he could have been at Memphis. His improvement at Memphis would have been because of him, I think the UVA staff will help him improve.