(10-05-2015 09:23 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 08:17 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 11:00 AM)Wedge Wrote:  Not that much time. Jim Harbaugh was a part-time volunteer assistant (i.e., so he could legally recruit) while he was an active NFL player, for the WKU team coached by his dad.

So if Manning went that path at Tennessee, he would be a part-time Volunteers volunteer assistant?

I think Peyton would start out as a full-time assistant if he went into coaching. Harbaugh did the part-time stuff while he was still playing, and AFAIK did it primarily so he could be around the team during the off-season and use his NFLness to help his dad recruit.

Peyton did say this recently:

Quote:"Quarterbacks coach, I would do at Tennessee. Head coach? Absolutely not," Manning said." "People in Tennessee like me right now, Dan — I don't know why. But you become the head coach and cut that in half right away. ‘Why are you throwing it on 4th and 1? Why did you punt there; you should go for it.' Cut it in half -- it's like being in politics...

"Quarterbacks coach, you probably could stay under the radar. You get your quarterbacks throwing a lot of completions, you probably could stay in good favor. Maybe if they call, that'd be something."

Nice find Wedge.

(10-05-2015 06:09 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 09:28 AM)esayem Wrote:  For the record, it took Harbaugh 13 years of coaching to get the Stanford HC job, and 10 to get the San Diego (FCS) job, his first HC position. For those who think Manning will retire and be a big coaching possibility immediately, well, don't get your hopes up.

Desperate times call for desperate measures. I don't know why some of you guys are so desperate to **** on the idea but that happened as well when I talked about Harbaugh being a sure thing for Michigan.

No one thought a successful coach in the NFL would go down to the college ranks.

I look into these things more deeply than your average forum poster, such as yourselves.

Desperate? No, I am just skeptical he would be a head coach right away.

I don't remember saying Harbaugh wouldn't return to the college level. Not sure why you're lumping me in with other people.

(10-05-2015 10:47 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 06:09 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 09:28 AM)esayem Wrote:  For the record, it took Harbaugh 13 years of coaching to get the Stanford HC job, and 10 to get the San Diego (FCS) job, his first HC position. For those who think Manning will retire and be a big coaching possibility immediately, well, don't get your hopes up.

Desperate times call for desperate measures. I don't know why some of you guys are so desperate to **** on the idea but that happened as well when I talked about Harbaugh being a sure thing for Michigan.

No one thought a successful coach in the NFL would go down to the college ranks.

I look into these things more deeply than your average forum poster, such as yourselves.

Desperate? No, I am just skeptical he would be a head coach right away.

I don't remember saying Harbaugh wouldn't return to the college level. Not sure why you're lumping me in with other people.

I never said head coach. What I said was QB Coach and perhaps co-offensive coordinator at the start.

Wedge's link and quote seems to support that theory of mine. In regards to Harbaugh, maybe you didn't but I don't remember anyone stepping forward in strong support of what I was saying was going to happen.

(10-05-2015 08:44 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 08:17 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 11:00 AM)Wedge Wrote:  Not that much time. Jim Harbaugh was a part-time volunteer assistant (i.e., so he could legally recruit) while he was an active NFL player, for the WKU team coached by his dad.

So if Manning went that path at Tennessee, he would be a part-time Volunteers volunteer assistant?

It's Peyton Manning, he is a much bigger name than Harbaugh. Harbaugh was a mediocre quarterback when he played but he understood football which led him to the path of coaching.

Peyton is an Elite QB talent that is also seen as one of the most intelligent football minds in the game.

Folks trying to create comparisons for Peyton when it comes to moving into the coaching world will fail every time. That is why the success of Harbaugh is relevant. It isn't about what Peyton could do, it is about what he could possibly surpass.

Tennessee needs him. I know folks were hyping up what Butch was going to do but anyone that had a perspective far enough away knew that it likely wasn't going to go as well as the hype was predicting. All that recruit ranking stuff is basically BS. They give the rankings based upon whom is looking at particular rankings.

Peyton on the other hand, he wouldn't be limited in his recruiting. He could go anywhere in the country to get whom he wants for his offense. The moment he would get his QB, that QB would get a major bump in the recruit rankings which would then lead to immediate signings of offensive linemen and receivers.

Everyone is acting as if this would be hard for Peyton and that he wouldn't be good as a coach. No other coach in the college football world has his complete background.

I think people are looking at other great players that flamed out as coaches/managers. The likes of Mike Singletary, magic Johnson, Michael Jordan or Ryne Sandberg. As you stated, Harbaugh was a journeyman QB in the NFL and those mid-level players seem to have greater success.