(10-03-2015 04:25 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  You're wrong, my *statistic* - win % - is highly relevant, far more relevant than your original "total wins" statistics, which is obviously misleading.

Now, perhaps you are correct that we should take out teams with less than 500 games played (not sure why we would want to take out FCS games, a game is a game), in order to make sure we have a critical mass of games. But that's still using my "win %" statistic.

OK, we do that and WVU is #28, a lot lower than your overall number of wins.

#28 is nice, considering you are #45 in NFL games produced. What are possible reasons for the discrepancy:

Easier than average schedules?
Good coaching?

The main reason is far simpler, which is why I'm surprised you didn't clue into it. But perhaps you need to get out into the country once in a while. Although you didn't clue into the other factors either. So I'm not sure broadening your horizons would work effectively there.

The main reason for the lack of NFL talent coming out of WVU is because WVU is in Morgantown, WV, removed from any large population, without the built-in fanbase ready to accept Mountaineers into the fold. Mountaineer players weren't popular, compared to the kids coming from schools in more populated areas. So kids with comparable talent, name recognition pulls in the fans. AND they get chosen more readily.

And a lot of NFL players just happen to find the right fit, which would not be the case if they went to another team. Luck plays a part, fit plays a part, name recognition plays a part, and then talent decides the rest. There is no one factor. There are several, and you missed 'em all.

(10-03-2015 09:20 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 04:25 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  You're wrong, my *statistic* - win % - is highly relevant, far more relevant than your original "total wins" statistics, which is obviously misleading.

Now, perhaps you are correct that we should take out teams with less than 500 games played (not sure why we would want to take out FCS games, a game is a game), in order to make sure we have a critical mass of games. But that's still using my "win %" statistic.

OK, we do that and WVU is #28, a lot lower than your overall number of wins.

#28 is nice, considering you are #45 in NFL games produced. What are possible reasons for the discrepancy:

Easier than average schedules?
Good coaching?

The main reason is far simpler, which is why I'm surprised you didn't clue into it. But perhaps you need to get out into the country once in a while. Although you didn't clue into the other factors either. So I'm not sure broadening your horizons would work effectively there.

The main reason for the lack of NFL talent coming out of WVU is because WVU is in Morgantown, WV, removed from any large population, without the built-in fanbase ready to accept Mountaineers into the fold. Mountaineer players weren't popular, compared to the kids coming from schools in more populated areas. So kids with comparable talent, name recognition pulls in the fans. AND they get chosen more readily.

And a lot of NFL players just happen to find the right fit, which would not be the case if they went to another team. Luck plays a part, fit plays a part, name recognition plays a part, and then talent decides the rest. There is no one factor. There are several, and you missed 'em all.

You missed the mark and widely. There is no reason to think that the NFL is biased against WVU talent. With that given, then one of the two factors i mentioned is most likely.

(10-03-2015 08:50 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 09:20 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 04:25 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  You're wrong, my *statistic* - win % - is highly relevant, far more relevant than your original "total wins" statistics, which is obviously misleading.

Now, perhaps you are correct that we should take out teams with less than 500 games played (not sure why we would want to take out FCS games, a game is a game), in order to make sure we have a critical mass of games. But that's still using my "win %" statistic.

OK, we do that and WVU is #28, a lot lower than your overall number of wins.

#28 is nice, considering you are #45 in NFL games produced. What are possible reasons for the discrepancy:

Easier than average schedules?
Good coaching?

The main reason is far simpler, which is why I'm surprised you didn't clue into it. But perhaps you need to get out into the country once in a while. Although you didn't clue into the other factors either. So I'm not sure broadening your horizons would work effectively there.

The main reason for the lack of NFL talent coming out of WVU is because WVU is in Morgantown, WV, removed from any large population, without the built-in fanbase ready to accept Mountaineers into the fold. Mountaineer players weren't popular, compared to the kids coming from schools in more populated areas. So kids with comparable talent, name recognition pulls in the fans. AND they get chosen more readily.

And a lot of NFL players just happen to find the right fit, which would not be the case if they went to another team. Luck plays a part, fit plays a part, name recognition plays a part, and then talent decides the rest. There is no one factor. There are several, and you missed 'em all.

You missed the mark and widely. There is no reason to think that the NFL is biased against WVU talent. With that given, then one of the two factors i mentioned is most likely.

NO. YOU missed my point entirely. The NFL is a business. Name recognition is a determining factor, when all else is equal. Names the fans know will generate interest, while players from schools that don't get as much publicity often fall under their radar. THAT does come into play, and more often than you think.

The fact that you don't know this is rather interesting, since you seem so obsessed with such things.