(10-03-2015 09:28 PM)EMU03 Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 09:18 PM)emdypo Wrote:  Great effort by our Eagles, they definitely exceeded expectations.

Agree. Definitely wasn't the embarrassment which many feared. It is promising to see that we were able to move the ball decently against their defense. I hope our defense continues to load up the box against the run and dare our MAC brethren to throw the ball. Akron's QB doesn't scare me.

I agree about the defense we should load up the box for games.

(10-03-2015 08:15 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 08:13 PM)EMU03 Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 08:11 PM)holybovine Wrote:  Such a loser call to go for a 53 yard field goal down 27-14 when it's fourth and four. Reminds me of something English would have done.

Or maybe coach thought Mulder could make it.

So what if he makes it? Then we're still down two scores to LSU on the road. We are 45 point underdogs. There is no point in being conservative.

Agree! Agree! Agree! First off, it is highly unlikely he is going to hit it, secondly, it is THREE points, thirdly, if you go for it and and come up short, you have sent a message of toughness to the team that you are in it to win it and you don't care who the hell LSU is, we are going to determine our fate! In game decision making still needs to improve by Creighton

(10-04-2015 09:17 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 08:15 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 08:13 PM)EMU03 Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 08:11 PM)holybovine Wrote:  Such a loser call to go for a 53 yard field goal down 27-14 when it's fourth and four. Reminds me of something English would have done.

Or maybe coach thought Mulder could make it.

So what if he makes it? Then we're still down two scores to LSU on the road. We are 45 point underdogs. There is no point in being conservative.

Agree! Agree! Agree! First off, it is highly unlikely he is going to hit it, secondly, it is THREE points, thirdly, if you go for it and and come up short, you have sent a message of toughness to the team that you are in it to win it and you don't care who the hell LSU is, we are going to determine our fate! In game decision making still needs to improve by Creighton

Memo to Sad Sack Bob and Cowman one play didn't make this game. The coaches had the team ready and prepared for this game.

(10-04-2015 09:19 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 09:17 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 08:15 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 08:13 PM)EMU03 Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 08:11 PM)holybovine Wrote:  Such a loser call to go for a 53 yard field goal down 27-14 when it's fourth and four. Reminds me of something English would have done.

Or maybe coach thought Mulder could make it.

So what if he makes it? Then we're still down two scores to LSU on the road. We are 45 point underdogs. There is no point in being conservative.

Agree! Agree! Agree! First off, it is highly unlikely he is going to hit it, secondly, it is THREE points, thirdly, if you go for it and and come up short, you have sent a message of toughness to the team that you are in it to win it and you don't care who the hell LSU is, we are going to determine our fate! In game decision making still needs to improve by Creighton

Memo to Sad Sack Bob and Cowman one play didn't make this game. The coaches had the team ready and prepared for this game.

No one is saying it did but from a purely strategic point of view, it didn't make a damn lick of sense. It also sent a message of weakness to the team. It was a bad decision all the way around.

Bottom line: Great effort by EMU! Kudos to the entire coaching staff and players.

Dear Bob,
I'd be willing to bet, that if you asked the players after that field goal attempt, that that sent a "message of weakness", there would be a resounding NO. The point is, that even if Eastern had made a first down at that time, no one knows if we would have scored a touchdown, and may have ended trying a field goal anyway. So, your premise is off.

(10-04-2015 09:34 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Bob,
I'd be willing to bet, that if you asked the players after that field goal attempt, that that sent a "message of weakness", there would be a resounding NO. The point is, that even if Eastern had made a first down at that time, no one knows if we would have scored a touchdown, and may have ended trying a field goal anyway. So, your premise is off.

Nope. If you make a first down, you have moved CLOSER to field goal range if you have to settle later...obviously the odds are better that you can get 4 yards than a MAC kicker hitting a 50+ yard FG. T-H-I-N-K.

Dear Bob,
First of all Mulder has made an attempt from that distance. Second, coaches always try and score points, and even had he made the attempt we would have only been down by ten. Remember who we were playing.

(10-04-2015 09:46 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Bob,
First of all Mulder has made an attempt from that distance. Second, coaches always try and score points, and even had he made the attempt we would have only been down by ten. Remember who we were playing.

Ken, we must agree to disagree on this one. You are playing with house money on the road against a superior opponent. An NFL kicker has a low percentage from that range, let alone a guy who will be working in an office after he graduates from EMU. He is not going to hit from that range and now you just gave LSU a short field. I am going to take my chances throwing the ball to Browning or Tuttle or Creel or Strange. That was Eastern's best chance! It didn't cost us the game but it just seemed like a no brainer. The fact that we are even having this discussion shows WHAT GREAT PROGRESS EMU MADE! They were in it late in the game against LSU!!! That is phenomenal. Great job by Eastern Michigan University, this is what we all want from our team and more.

(10-04-2015 09:46 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Bob,
First of all Mulder has made an attempt from that distance. Second, coaches always try and score points, and even had he made the attempt we would have only been down by ten. Remember who we were playing.

Exactly, great points. And all of this 'show of weakness' talk on top of it is total crap.

Actually this game showed the exact opposite of any kind of weakness by this team. The entire country was impressed, and that was one of the best executed 2 point conversions I've seen.

Other than the 3 picks (1 totally ridiculous for a pick 6), the holding penalty on our receiver when we would have been down on their 5 yd line again, and the 75 yd TD run; the effort, game plan, and execution were all very good.

Proud of the team, honestly thought it was going to be 60-0.

(10-04-2015 10:52 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 09:46 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Bob,
First of all Mulder has made an attempt from that distance. Second, coaches always try and score points, and even had he made the attempt we would have only been down by ten. Remember who we were playing.

Exactly, great points. And all of this 'show of weakness' talk on top of it is total crap.

Actually this game showed the exact opposite of any kind of weakness by this team. The entire country was impressed, and that was one of the best executed 2 point conversions I've seen.

Other than the 3 picks (1 totally ridiculous for a pick 6), the holding penalty on our receiver when we would have been down on their 5 yd line again, and the 75 yd TD run; the effort, game plan, and execution were all very good.

Proud of the team, honestly thought it was going to be 60-0.

Instead of being all passive aggressive and wimpy, read the comments and have a thoughtful response. Be a little "tougher."

(10-04-2015 10:52 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 09:46 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Bob,
First of all Mulder has made an attempt from that distance. Second, coaches always try and score points, and even had he made the attempt we would have only been down by ten. Remember who we were playing.

Exactly, great points. And all of this 'show of weakness' talk on top of it is total crap.

Actually this game showed the exact opposite of any kind of weakness by this team. The entire country was impressed, and that was one of the best executed 2 point conversions I've seen.

Other than the 3 picks (1 totally ridiculous for a pick 6), the holding penalty on our receiver when we would have been down on their 5 yd line again, and the 75 yd TD run; the effort, game plan, and execution were all very good.

Proud of the team, honestly thought it was going to be 60-0.

I remember the Florida game last year which was incredibly ugly.

LSU is better than Florida was (2014).

(10-04-2015 11:02 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 10:52 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 09:46 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Bob,
First of all Mulder has made an attempt from that distance. Second, coaches always try and score points, and even had he made the attempt we would have only been down by ten. Remember who we were playing.

Exactly, great points. And all of this 'show of weakness' talk on top of it is total crap.

Actually this game showed the exact opposite of any kind of weakness by this team. The entire country was impressed, and that was one of the best executed 2 point conversions I've seen.

Other than the 3 picks (1 totally ridiculous for a pick 6), the holding penalty on our receiver when we would have been down on their 5 yd line again, and the 75 yd TD run; the effort, game plan, and execution were all very good.

Proud of the team, honestly thought it was going to be 60-0.

Instead of being all passive aggressive and wimpy, read the comments and have a thoughtful response. Be a little "tougher."

Really Bob? It is obvious from my short tenure on this board that your opinions and comments are almost universally derided, and your motives questionable.

I probably went overboard with some personal comments early on, but in the best interest of the board I've repented. I didn't say anything directly to you or about you, so you might want to rethink the personal attacks yourself.

(10-04-2015 11:51 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 11:02 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 10:52 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 09:46 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Bob,
First of all Mulder has made an attempt from that distance. Second, coaches always try and score points, and even had he made the attempt we would have only been down by ten. Remember who we were playing.

Exactly, great points. And all of this 'show of weakness' talk on top of it is total crap.

Actually this game showed the exact opposite of any kind of weakness by this team. The entire country was impressed, and that was one of the best executed 2 point conversions I've seen.

Other than the 3 picks (1 totally ridiculous for a pick 6), the holding penalty on our receiver when we would have been down on their 5 yd line again, and the 75 yd TD run; the effort, game plan, and execution were all very good.

Proud of the team, honestly thought it was going to be 60-0.

Instead of being all passive aggressive and wimpy, read the comments and have a thoughtful response. Be a little "tougher."

Really Bob? It is obvious from my short tenure on this board that your opinions and comments are almost universally derided, and your motives questionable.

I probably went overboard with some personal comments early on, but in the best interest of the board I've repented. I didn't say anything directly to you or about you, so you might want to rethink the personal attacks yourself.

Agree on the personal attacks, although I can take anything.

(10-04-2015 11:53 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 11:51 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 11:02 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 10:52 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 09:46 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Bob,
First of all Mulder has made an attempt from that distance. Second, coaches always try and score points, and even had he made the attempt we would have only been down by ten. Remember who we were playing.

Exactly, great points. And all of this 'show of weakness' talk on top of it is total crap.

Actually this game showed the exact opposite of any kind of weakness by this team. The entire country was impressed, and that was one of the best executed 2 point conversions I've seen.

Other than the 3 picks (1 totally ridiculous for a pick 6), the holding penalty on our receiver when we would have been down on their 5 yd line again, and the 75 yd TD run; the effort, game plan, and execution were all very good.

Proud of the team, honestly thought it was going to be 60-0.

Instead of being all passive aggressive and wimpy, read the comments and have a thoughtful response. Be a little "tougher."

Really Bob? It is obvious from my short tenure on this board that your opinions and comments are almost universally derided, and your motives questionable.

I probably went overboard with some personal comments early on, but in the best interest of the board I've repented. I didn't say anything directly to you or about you, so you might want to rethink the personal attacks yourself.

Agree on the personal attacks, although I can take anything.

That's what she said.

(10-04-2015 12:37 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 11:53 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 11:51 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 11:02 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 10:52 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  Exactly, great points. And all of this 'show of weakness' talk on top of it is total crap.

Actually this game showed the exact opposite of any kind of weakness by this team. The entire country was impressed, and that was one of the best executed 2 point conversions I've seen.

Other than the 3 picks (1 totally ridiculous for a pick 6), the holding penalty on our receiver when we would have been down on their 5 yd line again, and the 75 yd TD run; the effort, game plan, and execution were all very good.

Proud of the team, honestly thought it was going to be 60-0.

Instead of being all passive aggressive and wimpy, read the comments and have a thoughtful response. Be a little "tougher."

Really Bob? It is obvious from my short tenure on this board that your opinions and comments are almost universally derided, and your motives questionable.

I probably went overboard with some personal comments early on, but in the best interest of the board I've repented. I didn't say anything directly to you or about you, so you might want to rethink the personal attacks yourself.

Agree on the personal attacks, although I can take anything.

That's what she said.

That really doesn't lend itself to the famous Michael Scott retort. Do better!

(10-04-2015 02:20 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 12:37 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 11:53 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 11:51 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 11:02 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  Instead of being all passive aggressive and wimpy, read the comments and have a thoughtful response. Be a little "tougher."

Really Bob? It is obvious from my short tenure on this board that your opinions and comments are almost universally derided, and your motives questionable.

I probably went overboard with some personal comments early on, but in the best interest of the board I've repented. I didn't say anything directly to you or about you, so you might want to rethink the personal attacks yourself.

Agree on the personal attacks, although I can take anything.

That's what she said.

That really doesn't lend itself to the famous Michael Scott retort. Do better!

Think about it.

(10-04-2015 08:26 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 02:20 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 12:37 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 11:53 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 11:51 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  Really Bob? It is obvious from my short tenure on this board that your opinions and comments are almost universally derided, and your motives questionable.

I probably went overboard with some personal comments early on, but in the best interest of the board I've repented. I didn't say anything directly to you or about you, so you might want to rethink the personal attacks yourself.

Agree on the personal attacks, although I can take anything.

That's what she said.

That really doesn't lend itself to the famous Michael Scott retort. Do better!

Think about it.

Asking a lot out of BW there HB.

A lot has already been said about the game in this thread so I won't beat a dead horse but I was very proud of the way the fellas played. The defense stepped it up and played tough for the most part. I'm not going to complain about Fournette getting his yards. Our defense has struggled against the run and he is a Heisman Trophy candidate. They got good pressure on the QB and did a very good job of disrupting LSU's passing game.

Our offense showed signs of great things but lacked consistency. I'm still on the fence about Roback. It just looks like he is trying too hard to make things happen. However, he's getting a lot of good experience and that can only help him compete for the starting job if/when a real QB competition is offered to him and Bell. I'm not worried about the rest of the offense because we can run the ball and I have no doubt once the QBs become more consistent throwing the ball our receivers will improve as well.

I was pleasantly surprised with the way the fellas stepped up and didn't just allow LSU to steam roll them. Yes, we are 1-4, same record we had last year at this point, but this is a very improved team. It may not show in the record but it absolutely shows in the PF/PA category at this point in 2014 it was 54 (PF)/214 (PA) and this year it is 157(PF)/197(PA) - EMU has scored 103 more points and allowed 17 fewer points after five game this season than it did last season. Those are improvements and it will start showing in the record soon as well.

(10-04-2015 09:36 PM)HuronRob Wrote:  A lot has already been said about the game in this thread so I won't beat a dead horse but I was very proud of the way the fellas played. The defense stepped it up and played tough for the most part. I'm not going to complain about Fournette getting his yards. Our defense has struggled against the run and he is a Heisman Trophy candidate. They got good pressure on the QB and did a very good job of disrupting LSU's passing game.

Our offense showed signs of great things but lacked consistency. I'm still on the fence about Roback. It just looks like he is trying too hard to make things happen. However, he's getting a lot of good experience and that can only help him compete for the starting job if/when a real QB competition is offered to him and Bell. I'm not worried about the rest of the offense because we can run the ball and I have no doubt once the QBs become more consistent throwing the ball our receivers will improve as well.

I was pleasantly surprised with the way the fellas stepped up and didn't just allow LSU to steam roll them. Yes, we are 1-4, same record we had last year at this point, but this is a very improved team. It may not show in the record but it absolutely shows in the PF/PA category at this point in 2014 it was 54 (PF)/214 (PA) and this year it is 157(PF)/197(PA) - EMU has scored 103 more points and allowed 17 fewer points after five game this season than it did last season. Those are improvements and it will start showing in the record soon as well.

Well put. Couldn't be prouder of the effort from the team.