ODU Monarchs

Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
Shuler Bentley remings me of Byron Leftwich with less talent
Author Message
Monarch Homselr Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,707
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 41
I Root For: ODU
Location:
Post: #41
RE: Shuler Bentley remings me of Byron Leftwich with less talent
With games completely out of hand, why not put BL in for some snaps. It is silly to me not to have your back-up QB be given some snaps. If SB went down yesterday BL would have to have gone in!

Pulling SB in the 4th quarter of a blow-out game can't be any worse on his confidence than be left in to be slaughtered.

I've seen mentioned in other threads that TH was never pulled in lop-sided games but I remember him being pulled at the MD games...am I imaging that?
10-04-2015 03:08 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
ODUalum78 Offline
Overseer of the Unwashed Masses
*

Posts: 9,366
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 158
I Root For: ODU
Location: Chesterfield, Va

Lion's Den Poster of the Year
Post: #42
RE: Shuler Bentley remings me of Byron Leftwich with less talent
(10-04-2015 03:08 PM)Monarch Homselr Wrote:  With games completely out of hand, why not put BL in for some snaps. It is silly to me not to have your back-up QB be given some snaps. If SB went down yesterday BL would have to have gone in!

Pulling SB in the 4th quarter of a blow-out game can't be any worse on his confidence than be left in to be slaughtered.

I've seen mentioned in other threads that TH was never pulled in lop-sided games but I remember him being pulled at the MD games...am I imaging that?

You are correct
He went 3/5 for 4 yds with no ints and no TDs
He also rushed 4 times for 22 yards
He also engineered our only TD.
(This post was last modified: 10-04-2015 03:16 PM by ODUalum78.)
10-04-2015 03:14 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Gilesfan Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 17,533
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 106
I Root For: ODU
Location:
Post: #43
RE: Shuler Bentley remings me of Byron Leftwich with less talent
(10-04-2015 03:08 PM)Monarch Homselr Wrote:  With games completely out of hand, why not put BL in for some snaps. It is silly to me not to have your back-up QB be given some snaps. If SB went down yesterday BL would have to have gone in!

Pulling SB in the 4th quarter of a blow-out game can't be any worse on his confidence than be left in to be slaughtered.

I've seen mentioned in other threads that TH was never pulled in lop-sided games but I remember him being pulled at the MD games...am I imaging that?

Either they want to redshirt him or tbey feel bentley needs snaps
10-04-2015 03:19 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Monarch Homselr Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,707
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 41
I Root For: ODU
Location:
Post: #44
RE: Shuler Bentley remings me of Byron Leftwich with less talent
Why would you want to redshirt a walk-on when you have a good prospect that is redhirting this year due to injury and from what appears to be two good new QB recruits coming next year? I'm not saying let BL start but let him gets some "real game" experience in case he has to be thrown into the fire.
10-04-2015 03:30 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
75Monarch Offline
Water Engineer
*

Posts: 29
Joined: Sep 2015
Reputation: 1
I Root For: ODU
Location: Richmond
Post: #45
RE: Shuler Bentley remings me of Byron Leftwich with less talent
(10-04-2015 01:10 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 01:05 PM)ODU FrontRunner Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 12:40 PM)The Doctor Is In Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 12:11 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  For the people that are hating on Blake LaRussa.

Reason he didnt get recruit to play football on the college level is because his heart was with basketball. One of the reasons he left a good Grassfield football team was to play basketball at Bishop Sullivan which was better in basketball.

LaRussa reclassified at Bishop Sullivan hoping his chance to get notice for basketball would improve but he failed to get notice. Area coaches believe his size and not playing AAU basketball had a lot to do with not getting looked out. His high school career avg ppg was 18 at point guard.

In football LaRussa junior year he alone had over 5000 yards with 50 plus TDs.
After his junior year Coach Turner was fired and Bishop Sullivan went to a run first offense with a new coach. Even with the change LaRussa had 3000 yards of offense. If private school stats counted in VA he would be the leading leader in most the QB stat lines.

The reason I like LaRussa is his mobility. Go google his basketball and football videos. He makes plays with his feet.

Do I think he is the answer to fix our troubles, no. I do feel he could help a lot when SB is playing poorly YES.

I tend to agree with AimHigh. Sometimes a young QB needs to observe the game from the sideline for a bit when things are going consistently poorly for him. In this case, Bentley gets a break to regroup himself and LaRussa gets a chance to show his skills. To me, everyone wins if it is handled well by the coaches. Likewise, ODUalum78 has a good point about LaRussa's mobility. Perhaps that adds a dimension to our offense that would open up other parts of our offensive game plan.

If Larussa is more mobile (I have never seen him play) it would add a huge element to our offense. When plays break down SB is no threat to escape or punish the defense for not accounting for him. When he does escape and get out of the pocket, he is just too slow to get more than 3 or 4 yards. Big DL run him down with no problem whatsover. TH and TD could usually get 10 or 12 yds when they decided to run, but when SB runs at best it is 3 or 4 yards.

Runs just like Thomas DeMarco. Keep in mind this is high school film!!! Enjoy


This guy looks.like a quarterback that is in control of his offense and can move to avoid pressure. Clearly our offense is ineffective, especially the passing game. What's the harm in trying? Maybe a little competition will improve SB's motivation.
10-04-2015 03:51 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
ODU2011 Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 2,043
Joined: Nov 2014
Reputation: 110
I Root For: ODU
Location:
Post: #46
RE: Shuler Bentley remings me of Byron Leftwich with less talent
I can't believe this is even an argument. He played terrible, we need to stop making excuses. Something needs to be adjusted to help him if they are not going to make a change. I imagine this is will be another one of those problems they decide to ignore for sometime. Just like they did with defense, kicking, and the o-line.
10-04-2015 06:38 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
ODUCoach Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 6,322
Joined: Feb 2007
Reputation: 236
I Root For: ODU
Location: Hampton Boulevard
Post: #47
Shuler Bentley remings me of Byron Leftwich with less talent
Here's the thing, I agree that in highlights, Larussa looks awesome. But, clearly, there must be flaws somewhere because A) lots of college coaches saw that film and still didn't think he was worthy of a scholarship (and, as Heinicke proved, it is possible that every coach missed), and more importantly, B) Wilder clearly must believe Bentley is better or he wouldn't be playing him.

The backup QB is always the most popular guy on a team struggling offensively. But, no one has given me any reason to believe Larussa is better than Bentley. One spring scrimmage and one high school highlight does not convince me that our coaches are too dumb or too stubborn to play LaRussa. Thus, I must conclude that given the totality of the evidence (every practice and every drill), our coaches think Bentley is our best shot to win.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
10-04-2015 06:46 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Monarchblue Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 8,753
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 170
I Root For: ODU
Location:
Post: #48
Re: RE: Schuler Bentley remings me of Byron Leftwich with less talent
(10-04-2015 11:56 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 11:27 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 12:43 AM)Monarch Asylum Wrote:  Duhart had a HUGE drop on the first drive of the game, after the kick off fumble. If he makes that catch they're in FG range and Shuler has some confidence rolling.

Perspective people. If we weren't averaging 5-6 drops a game Shuler's stats would be better.

I also fail to see how replacing a Red Shirt Freshman QB with a TRUE Freshman walk-on QB would be a better solution?
I presume you weren't at the Spring game or the other open scrimmages when BL was clearly the better QB. I assure you that, at worst, there would be no drop off from SB to BL.

Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk

No he wasnt. Come on

Yes he was. Come on.
10-04-2015 06:54 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Monarchblue Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 8,753
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 170
I Root For: ODU
Location:
Post: #49
Re: RE: Shuler Bentley remings me of Byron Leftwich with less talent
(10-04-2015 03:08 PM)Monarch Homselr Wrote:  With games completely out of hand, why not put BL in for some snaps. It is silly to me not to have your back-up QB be given some snaps. If SB went down yesterday BL would have to have gone in!

Pulling SB in the 4th quarter of a blow-out game can't be any worse on his confidence than be left in to be slaughtered.

I've seen mentioned in other threads that TH was never pulled in lop-sided games but I remember him being pulled at the MD games...am I imaging that?

The answer is easy. He might do better, and the coaches are committed to SB and don't want a controversy.
10-04-2015 06:57 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Big Blue Crazy Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 644
Joined: Nov 2012
Reputation: 6
I Root For: ODU
Location: Living on a WAVE
Post: #50
Shuler Bentley remings me of Byron Leftwich with less talent
(10-04-2015 01:10 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 01:05 PM)ODU FrontRunner Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 12:40 PM)The Doctor Is In Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 12:11 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  For the people that are hating on Blake LaRussa.

Reason he didnt get recruit to play football on the college level is because his heart was with basketball. One of the reasons he left a good Grassfield football team was to play basketball at Bishop Sullivan which was better in basketball.

LaRussa reclassified at Bishop Sullivan hoping his chance to get notice for basketball would improve but he failed to get notice. Area coaches believe his size and not playing AAU basketball had a lot to do with not getting looked out. His high school career avg ppg was 18 at point guard.

In football LaRussa junior year he alone had over 5000 yards with 50 plus TDs.
After his junior year Coach Turner was fired and Bishop Sullivan went to a run first offense with a new coach. Even with the change LaRussa had 3000 yards of offense. If private school stats counted in VA he would be the leading leader in most the QB stat lines.

The reason I like LaRussa is his mobility. Go google his basketball and football videos. He makes plays with his feet.

Do I think he is the answer to fix our troubles, no. I do feel he could help a lot when SB is playing poorly YES.

I tend to agree with AimHigh. Sometimes a young QB needs to observe the game from the sideline for a bit when things are going consistently poorly for him. In this case, Bentley gets a break to regroup himself and LaRussa gets a chance to show his skills. To me, everyone wins if it is handled well by the coaches. Likewise, ODUalum78 has a good point about LaRussa's mobility. Perhaps that adds a dimension to our offense that would open up other parts of our offensive game plan.

If Larussa is more mobile (I have never seen him play) it would add a huge element to our offense. When plays break down SB is no threat to escape or punish the defense for not accounting for him. When he does escape and get out of the pocket, he is just too slow to get more than 3 or 4 yards. Big DL run him down with no problem whatsover. TH and TD could usually get 10 or 12 yds when they decided to run, but when SB runs at best it is 3 or 4 yards.

Runs just like Thomas DeMarco. Keep in mind this is high school film!!! Enjoy


Great video.
It is pretty evident that BL is mobile and shows a good arm.
I do have a separate question.
Who are the two WRs in the video that catch most of his passes
Number 1 and Number 15.
Why are they not in Monarch uniforms?
10-04-2015 07:29 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
AimHigher Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 6,344
Joined: Oct 2012
Reputation: 70
I Root For: ODU
Location:
Post: #51
RE: Shuler Bentley remings me of Byron Leftwich with less talent
(10-04-2015 07:29 PM)Big Blue Crazy Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 01:10 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 01:05 PM)ODU FrontRunner Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 12:40 PM)The Doctor Is In Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 12:11 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  For the people that are hating on Blake LaRussa.

Reason he didnt get recruit to play football on the college level is because his heart was with basketball. One of the reasons he left a good Grassfield football team was to play basketball at Bishop Sullivan which was better in basketball.

LaRussa reclassified at Bishop Sullivan hoping his chance to get notice for basketball would improve but he failed to get notice. Area coaches believe his size and not playing AAU basketball had a lot to do with not getting looked out. His high school career avg ppg was 18 at point guard.

In football LaRussa junior year he alone had over 5000 yards with 50 plus TDs.
After his junior year Coach Turner was fired and Bishop Sullivan went to a run first offense with a new coach. Even with the change LaRussa had 3000 yards of offense. If private school stats counted in VA he would be the leading leader in most the QB stat lines.

The reason I like LaRussa is his mobility. Go google his basketball and football videos. He makes plays with his feet.

Do I think he is the answer to fix our troubles, no. I do feel he could help a lot when SB is playing poorly YES.

I tend to agree with AimHigh. Sometimes a young QB needs to observe the game from the sideline for a bit when things are going consistently poorly for him. In this case, Bentley gets a break to regroup himself and LaRussa gets a chance to show his skills. To me, everyone wins if it is handled well by the coaches. Likewise, ODUalum78 has a good point about LaRussa's mobility. Perhaps that adds a dimension to our offense that would open up other parts of our offensive game plan.

If Larussa is more mobile (I have never seen him play) it would add a huge element to our offense. When plays break down SB is no threat to escape or punish the defense for not accounting for him. When he does escape and get out of the pocket, he is just too slow to get more than 3 or 4 yards. Big DL run him down with no problem whatsover. TH and TD could usually get 10 or 12 yds when they decided to run, but when SB runs at best it is 3 or 4 yards.

Runs just like Thomas DeMarco. Keep in mind this is high school film!!! Enjoy


Great video.
It is pretty evident that BL is mobile and shows a good arm.
I do have a separate question.
Who are the two WRs in the video that catch most of his passes
Number 1 and Number 15.
Why are they not in Monarch uniforms?

Four-star wide receiver Jamil Kamara
10-04-2015 08:26 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
AimHigher Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 6,344
Joined: Oct 2012
Reputation: 70
I Root For: ODU
Location:
Post: #52
RE: Shuler Bentley remings me of Byron Leftwich with less talent
01-ncaabbs 03-lmfao

10-04-2015 08:32 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Big Blue Crazy Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 644
Joined: Nov 2012
Reputation: 6
I Root For: ODU
Location: Living on a WAVE
Post: #53
Shuler Bentley remings me of Byron Leftwich with less talent
(10-04-2015 08:26 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 07:29 PM)Big Blue Crazy Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 01:10 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 01:05 PM)ODU FrontRunner Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 12:40 PM)The Doctor Is In Wrote:  I tend to agree with AimHigh. Sometimes a young QB needs to observe the game from the sideline for a bit when things are going consistently poorly for him. In this case, Bentley gets a break to regroup himself and LaRussa gets a chance to show his skills. To me, everyone wins if it is handled well by the coaches. Likewise, ODUalum78 has a good point about LaRussa's mobility. Perhaps that adds a dimension to our offense that would open up other parts of our offensive game plan.

If Larussa is more mobile (I have never seen him play) it would add a huge element to our offense. When plays break down SB is no threat to escape or punish the defense for not accounting for him. When he does escape and get out of the pocket, he is just too slow to get more than 3 or 4 yards. Big DL run him down with no problem whatsover. TH and TD could usually get 10 or 12 yds when they decided to run, but when SB runs at best it is 3 or 4 yards.

Runs just like Thomas DeMarco. Keep in mind this is high school film!!! Enjoy


Great video.
It is pretty evident that BL is mobile and shows a good arm.
I do have a separate question.
Who are the two WRs in the video that catch most of his passes
Number 1 and Number 15.
Why are they not in Monarch uniforms?

Four-star wide receiver Jamil Kamara

So could we use the same argument for LBs success in high school as others have used for SBs. The team was built for his success.
It looks to me that both had great weapons supporting them.
10-04-2015 10:01 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Monarch Homselr Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,707
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 41
I Root For: ODU
Location:
Post: #54
RE: Shuler Bentley remings me of Byron Leftwich with less talent
(10-04-2015 06:57 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 03:08 PM)Monarch Homselr Wrote:  With games completely out of hand, why not put BL in for some snaps. It is silly to me not to have your back-up QB be given some snaps. If SB went down yesterday BL would have to have gone in!

Pulling SB in the 4th quarter of a blow-out game can't be any worse on his confidence than be left in to be slaughtered.

I've seen mentioned in other threads that TH was never pulled in lop-sided games but I remember him being pulled at the MD games...am I imaging that?

The answer is easy. He might do better, and the coaches are committed to SB and don't want a controversy.

Excellent point! Wilder must be a Taurus....stubborn and becomes entrenched in their opinion??????
10-04-2015 10:14 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
bigblueodu Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 2,295
Joined: Feb 2012
Reputation: 41
I Root For: Old Dominion
Location:
Post: #55
RE: Shuler Bentley remings me of Byron Leftwich with less talent
He's a former qb that got benched his senior year. .....knows what it feels like to be the man and then be benched.
10-05-2015 07:01 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
ODUR8R Offline
All American
*

Posts: 4,273
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 35
I Root For: ODU
Location:
Post: #56
RE: Shuler Bentley remings me of Byron Leftwich with less talent
You guys realize this (Blake LaRussa tape) is TCIS Football?

It would be similar to putting Aaron Rodgers in the CFL and giving him Julio Jones and Calvin Johnson to throw to.
(This post was last modified: 10-05-2015 07:50 AM by ODUR8R.)
10-05-2015 07:50 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
ODUalum78 Offline
Overseer of the Unwashed Masses
*

Posts: 9,366
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 158
I Root For: ODU
Location: Chesterfield, Va

Lion's Den Poster of the Year
Post: #57
RE: Shuler Bentley remings me of Byron Leftwich with less talent
(10-05-2015 07:50 AM)ODUR8R Wrote:  You guys realize this (Blake LaRussa tape) is TCIS Football?

It would be similar to putting Aaron Rodgers in the CFL and giving him Julio Jones and Calvin Johnson to throw to.

Yes, which is why he needs some snaps. It is unknown how he will react to pressure, covered receivers, and FBS hits.
None of our QBs apparently had to deal with those in the Spring. 07-coffee3
10-05-2015 08:19 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
reagan Offline
Water Engineer
*

Posts: 75
Joined: Sep 2013
Reputation: 0
I Root For: ODU
Location:
Post: #58
RE: Shuler Bentley remings me of Byron Leftwich with less talent
Anyone heard of Tim Tebow or Johnny Manziel? Great college QBs who tore apart college defenses but have struggled in the NFL. Blake has only played against private schools, and the level of players in private is no where as good as 6A or 5A public school.
10-05-2015 08:22 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
ODUalum78 Offline
Overseer of the Unwashed Masses
*

Posts: 9,366
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 158
I Root For: ODU
Location: Chesterfield, Va

Lion's Den Poster of the Year
Post: #59
RE: Shuler Bentley remings me of Byron Leftwich with less talent
(10-05-2015 08:22 AM)reagan Wrote:  Anyone heard of Tim Tebow or Johnny Manziel? Great college QBs who tore apart college defenses but have struggled in the NFL. Blake has only played against private schools, and the level of players in private is no where as good as 6A or 5A public school.

The quality of his opponents doesn't change the fact that he is fast, can scramble, is accurate, and can throw accurately on the run.

It is unknown how he will react to pressure, covered receivers, and FBS hits.
Therefore, he needs some snaps, if for no other reason than if Bentley goes down.

If he cannot cut it, then DW needs to be moved back to QB, which at this point will take time.

This is football 101. Why are we not doing this?
(This post was last modified: 10-05-2015 08:34 AM by ODUalum78.)
10-05-2015 08:29 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
757ODU Offline
All American
*

Posts: 4,281
Joined: Apr 2015
Reputation: 102
I Root For: ODU
Location:
Post: #60
RE: Shuler Bentley remings me of Byron Leftwich with less talent
(10-04-2015 01:10 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 01:05 PM)ODU FrontRunner Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 12:40 PM)The Doctor Is In Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 12:11 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  For the people that are hating on Blake LaRussa.

Reason he didnt get recruit to play football on the college level is because his heart was with basketball. One of the reasons he left a good Grassfield football team was to play basketball at Bishop Sullivan which was better in basketball.

LaRussa reclassified at Bishop Sullivan hoping his chance to get notice for basketball would improve but he failed to get notice. Area coaches believe his size and not playing AAU basketball had a lot to do with not getting looked out. His high school career avg ppg was 18 at point guard.


In football LaRussa junior year he alone had over 5000 yards with 50 plus TDs.
After his junior year Coach Turner was fired and Bishop Sullivan went to a run first offense with a new coach. Even with the change LaRussa had 3000 yards of offense. If private school stats counted in VA he would be the leading leader in most the QB stat lines.

The reason I like LaRussa is his mobility. Go google his basketball and football videos. He makes plays with his feet.

Do I think he is the answer to fix our troubles, no. I do feel he could help a lot when SB is playing poorly YES.

I tend to agree with AimHigh. Sometimes a young QB needs to observe the game from the sideline for a bit when things are going consistently poorly for him. In this case, Bentley gets a break to regroup himself and LaRussa gets a chance to show his skills. To me, everyone wins if it is handled well by the coaches. Likewise, ODUalum78 has a good point about LaRussa's mobility. Perhaps that adds a dimension to our offense that would open up other parts of our offensive game plan.

If Larussa is more mobile (I have never seen him play) it would add a huge element to our offense. When plays break down SB is no threat to escape or punish the defense for not accounting for him. When he does escape and get out of the pocket, he is just too slow to get more than 3 or 4 yards. Big DL run him down with no problem whatsover. TH and TD could usually get 10 or 12 yds when they decided to run, but when SB runs at best it is 3 or 4 yards.

Runs just like Thomas DeMarco. Keep in mind this is high school film!!! Enjoy


Severe lack of competition. That's what I got from this.
10-05-2015 08:31 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2024 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 MyBB Group.