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Re: RE: AAC Separation From G4 - A Visual
(10-03-2015 04:21 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote: I am confused, that Quo fellow told us that the AAC was "just another G5 conference". Looks like power ratings and TV exposure tell a different story.
Actually, Quo has been documenting the good year the AAC has been having since week one, via his "G5 Conference Comparison", which has had us at #1 for weeks now.
Beyond that, though, the OP seems to put special faith in the NPI - a measure most have never heard of - and I am not sure why. Other measures, like RPI, also have us as the #1 G5 conference, but not nearly as close to the ACC as does the NPI, which seems to be an outlier.
(This post was last modified: 10-03-2015 05:41 PM by quo vadis.)
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RE: AAC Separation From G4 - A Visual
(10-03-2015 05:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (10-03-2015 04:21 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote: I am confused, that Quo fellow told us that the AAC was "just another G5 conference". Looks like power ratings and TV exposure tell a different story.
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You are dying a little bit inside after each OOC game. Admit it.
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RE: AAC Separation From G4 - A Visual
(10-03-2015 05:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (10-03-2015 04:21 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote: I am confused, that Quo fellow told us that the AAC was "just another G5 conference". Looks like power ratings and TV exposure tell a different story.
Actually, Quo has been documenting the good year the AAC has been having since week one, via his "G5 Conference Comparison", which has had us at #1 for weeks now.
Beyond that, though, the OP seems to put special faith in the NPI - a measure most have never heard of - and I am not sure why. Other measures, like RPI, also have us as the #1 G5 conference, but not nearly as close to the ACC as does the NPI, which seems to be an outlier.
Massey Composite has us smack dab in the middle
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Re: RE: AAC Separation From G4 - A Visual
(10-03-2015 05:39 PM)PirateMarv Wrote: (10-03-2015 05:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (10-03-2015 04:21 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote: I am confused, that Quo fellow told us that the AAC was "just another G5 conference". Looks like power ratings and TV exposure tell a different story.
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You are dying a little bit inside after each OOC game. Admit it.
Actually, i just celebrated Cincy dumping Miami. Nobody wants to see us be the #1 G5, and get the Access slot, more than i.
But, it is true that i do NOT want any AAC teams -or any G5 teams- to have great years, lest an expanding P5 think they are a better invite than USF.
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Re: RE: AAC Separation From G4 - A Visual
(10-03-2015 05:42 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: (10-03-2015 05:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (10-03-2015 04:21 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote: I am confused, that Quo fellow told us that the AAC was "just another G5 conference". Looks like power ratings and TV exposure tell a different story.
Actually, Quo has been documenting the good year the AAC has been having since week one, via his "G5 Conference Comparison", which has had us at #1 for weeks now.
Beyond that, though, the OP seems to put special faith in the NPI - a measure most have never heard of - and I am not sure why. Other measures, like RPI, also have us as the #1 G5 conference, but not nearly as close to the ACC as does the NPI, which seems to be an outlier.
Massey Composite has us smack dab in the middle
If Notre Dame beats Clemson, that combined with Cincy > Miami might put us as a true tweener consensus despite Uconn losing to BYU.
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RE: AAC Separation From G4 - A Visual
(10-03-2015 05:45 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (10-03-2015 05:39 PM)PirateMarv Wrote: (10-03-2015 05:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (10-03-2015 04:21 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote: I am confused, that Quo fellow told us that the AAC was "just another G5 conference". Looks like power ratings and TV exposure tell a different story.
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You are dying a little bit inside after each OOC game. Admit it.
Actually, i just celebrated Cincy dumping Miami. Nobody wants to see us be the #1 G5, and get the Access slot, more than i.
But, it is true that i do NOT want any AAC teams -or any G5 teams- to have great years, lest an expanding P5 think they are a better invite than USF.
Don't worry about it. Expansion is over all of these schools in the American (except UConn) are likely to be together for a long while. Contraction is likely to happen to make a P4.
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RE: AAC Separation From G4 - A Visual
(10-03-2015 05:42 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: (10-03-2015 05:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (10-03-2015 04:21 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote: I am confused, that Quo fellow told us that the AAC was "just another G5 conference". Looks like power ratings and TV exposure tell a different story.
Actually, Quo has been documenting the good year the AAC has been having since week one, via his "G5 Conference Comparison", which has had us at #1 for weeks now.
Beyond that, though, the OP seems to put special faith in the NPI - a measure most have never heard of - and I am not sure why. Other measures, like RPI, also have us as the #1 G5 conference, but not nearly as close to the ACC as does the NPI, which seems to be an outlier.
Massey Composite has us smack dab in the middle
Anyone who has any football iq and watched the games this year would know that any composite that has the AAC smack in the middle of the G5 is pure unadulterated junk.
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RE: AAC Separation From G4 - A Visual
No doubt, this conference is making huge strides. BYU would fit in well here as long as we had a western partner
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RE: AAC Separation From G4 - A Visual
(10-03-2015 06:04 PM)robe Wrote: No doubt, this conference is making huge strides. BYU would fit in well here as long as we had a western partner
I'd love to see BYU and Boise, but I suspect they'd both want special concessions.
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AAC Separation From G4 - A Visual
3-1 OOC this week.
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Re: RE: AAC Separation From G4 - A Visual
(10-03-2015 06:08 PM)MickMack Wrote: (10-03-2015 06:04 PM)robe Wrote: No doubt, this conference is making huge strides. BYU would fit in well here as long as we had a western partner
I'd love to see BYU and Boise, but I suspect they'd both want special concessions.
The conference would have to do something for BYU short term to help all the buyouts. In the long term BYU should be treated just like everyone else.
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Re: RE: AAC Separation From G4 - A Visual
(10-03-2015 06:08 PM)MickMack Wrote: (10-03-2015 06:04 PM)robe Wrote: No doubt, this conference is making huge strides. BYU would fit in well here as long as we had a western partner
I'd love to see BYU and Boise, but I suspect they'd both want special concessions.
The conference would have to do something for BYU short term to help all the buyouts. In the long term BYU should be treated just like everyone else.
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Re: RE: AAC Separation From G4 - A Visual
(10-03-2015 05:53 PM)PirateMarv Wrote: (10-03-2015 05:45 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (10-03-2015 05:39 PM)PirateMarv Wrote: (10-03-2015 05:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (10-03-2015 04:21 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote: I am confused, that Quo fellow told us that the AAC was "just another G5 conference". Looks like power ratings and TV exposure tell a different story.
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You are dying a little bit inside after each OOC game. Admit it.
Actually, i just celebrated Cincy dumping Miami. Nobody wants to see us be the #1 G5, and get the Access slot, more than i.
But, it is true that i do NOT want any AAC teams -or any G5 teams- to have great years, lest an expanding P5 think they are a better invite than USF.
Don't worry about it. Expansion is over all of these schools in the American (except UConn) are likely to be together for a long while. Contraction is likely to happen to make a P4.
I suspect you are correct, but you never know ...
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Re: RE: AAC Separation From G4 - A Visual
(10-03-2015 06:02 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: (10-03-2015 05:42 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: (10-03-2015 05:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (10-03-2015 04:21 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote: I am confused, that Quo fellow told us that the AAC was "just another G5 conference". Looks like power ratings and TV exposure tell a different story.
Actually, Quo has been documenting the good year the AAC has been having since week one, via his "G5 Conference Comparison", which has had us at #1 for weeks now.
Beyond that, though, the OP seems to put special faith in the NPI - a measure most have never heard of - and I am not sure why. Other measures, like RPI, also have us as the #1 G5 conference, but not nearly as close to the ACC as does the NPI, which seems to be an outlier.
Massey Composite has us smack dab in the middle
Anyone who has any football iq and watched the games this year would know that any composite that has the AAC smack in the middle of the G5 is pure unadulterated junk.
He means between the lowest P5 and the next highest G5.
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RE: AAC Separation From G4 - A Visual
(10-03-2015 06:02 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: (10-03-2015 05:42 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: (10-03-2015 05:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (10-03-2015 04:21 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote: I am confused, that Quo fellow told us that the AAC was "just another G5 conference". Looks like power ratings and TV exposure tell a different story.
Actually, Quo has been documenting the good year the AAC has been having since week one, via his "G5 Conference Comparison", which has had us at #1 for weeks now.
Beyond that, though, the OP seems to put special faith in the NPI - a measure most have never heard of - and I am not sure why. Other measures, like RPI, also have us as the #1 G5 conference, but not nearly as close to the ACC as does the NPI, which seems to be an outlier.
Massey Composite has us smack dab in the middle
Anyone who has any football iq and watched the games this year would know that any composite that has the AAC smack in the middle of the G5 is pure unadulterated junk.
Uhhh smack dab in the middle of MAC and ACC
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RE: AAC Separation From G4 - A Visual
(10-03-2015 06:44 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: (10-03-2015 06:02 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: (10-03-2015 05:42 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: (10-03-2015 05:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (10-03-2015 04:21 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote: I am confused, that Quo fellow told us that the AAC was "just another G5 conference". Looks like power ratings and TV exposure tell a different story.
Actually, Quo has been documenting the good year the AAC has been having since week one, via his "G5 Conference Comparison", which has had us at #1 for weeks now.
Beyond that, though, the OP seems to put special faith in the NPI - a measure most have never heard of - and I am not sure why. Other measures, like RPI, also have us as the #1 G5 conference, but not nearly as close to the ACC as does the NPI, which seems to be an outlier.
Massey Composite has us smack dab in the middle
Anyone who has any football iq and watched the games this year would know that any composite that has the AAC smack in the middle of the G5 is pure unadulterated junk.
Uhhh smack dab in the middle of MAC and ACC
Sorry, didn't see where yourost began and quo's stopped. I thought it was a continuation.
And he seems to be real butthurt over npi.
By the way, prior to the game, the npi had Florida at#19 and ole miss at #27. He had Alabama at#9 and Georgia at#33. Quo may think npi is an outlier, but it has nailed those two head to heads today.
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RE: AAC Separation From G4 - A Visual
(10-03-2015 10:26 AM)MickMack Wrote: (10-03-2015 10:19 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (10-03-2015 10:05 AM)baruna falls Wrote: But,but, Conf USA was the better league last year and their programs have way more potential than ours. Our schools have hit their peak don't you know.
We are separating ourselves now because most of our programs have a history of winning and have been willing to spend money on athletics when necessary.
Once our Florida schools right the ship we are going to separate ourselves even further.
Wonder if MWC is kicking themselves for giving Boise the sweet heart deal that they did. That league is falling behind at a fast an alarming clip.
Assuming UCF and USF return to the norm and schools like Memphis maintain momentum, then the separation between the ACC and the AAC will be slim to none.
Maybe in power rankings. But as long as the ACC has a flagship program like FSU and we have a bunch of directional schools the perception gap will remain Grand Canyon sized.
FSU at one time was nothing school (in fact was a woman's college at one time) until they won under Bobby Bowden. UConn not directional, Cincy, Houston SMU, Tulane, Tulsa, Navy, Memphis, Temple are not directional if you call them directional then Clemson,Miami, Pittsburgh, Syracuse and other ACC's members named after a city are directional to, I assume. Get your facts straight. Then wants whats wrong if a school has a direction in its name its doesn't mean the school can't play great football? I don't think so.
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RE: AAC Separation From G4 - A Visual
I couldn't careless about the ACC we need to focus our efforts on the top of the food chain in FBS the SEC and schedule and beat those top tier teams in that conference,. Beat those teams then what excuses will the pundits come up with? None..as the some are saying the American teams are becoming ever more difficult to defeat, other words we are no cupcakes or gimme win.. SOS/FPI is everything in CFB today. That what the PO committee is looking for.if AAC can put together stronger SOS schedule with the the top tier conference it will give our conference a chance to get in the PO.
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RE: AAC Separation From G4 - A Visual
(10-03-2015 10:20 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote: I couldn't careless about the ACC we need to focus our efforts on the top of the food chain in FBS the SEC and schedule and beat those top tier teams in that conference,. Beat those teams then what excuses will the pundits come up with? None..as the some are saying the American teams are becoming ever more difficult to defeat, other words we are no cupcakes or gimme win.. SOS/FPI is everything in CFB today. That what the PO committee is looking for.if AAC can put together stronger SOS schedule with the the top tier conference it will give our conference a chance to get in the PO.
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Virginia (UCONN)
Virginia Tech (ECU)
Syracuse (USF, UCONN)
Florida State (USF)
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NC State (ECU)
Louisville (Houston)
Penn State (Temple)
Ohio State (Tulsa)
Purdue (Cincinnati)
Maryland (UCF)
Michigan (UCF)
Oklahoma (Houston)
Kansas (Memphis)
Baylor (SMU)
TCU (SMU)
South Carolina (ECU)
Ole Miss (Memphis)
Notre Dame (Navy)
BYU (Cincinnati)
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