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(10-02-2015 12:06 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  
(10-02-2015 11:54 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  Serious question, Can Aresco with support of the AAC presidents ask Tulane to leave the conference? Didn't Temple have this happen to them. My problem with the Tulane Administration is that they have shown no desire to improve their athletics department.

Do not really see a scenario where Tulane can be competitive in football. Basketball maybe, but football I just do not see it.

I have nothing against Tulane fans, they are stuck in this bad sports dream as well. But at this point, I hope that Aresco and company set benchmarks for Tulane and if they do not meet them, ask the school to leave.

For the life of me, I cannot yet understand why Tulsa and Tulane were added. 07-coffee3

I can understand Tulsa. Even though they have a small fanbase they at least have a pretty good athletic department. Tulane on the other hand is historically a...
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The conference is doing just fine the way it is, Tulsa and Tulane will come around soon.
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(10-02-2015 11:54 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  Serious question, Can Aresco with support of the AAC presidents ask Tulane to leave the conference? Didn't Temple have this happen to them. My problem with the Tulane Administration is that they have shown no desire to improve their athletics department.

Do not really see a scenario where Tulane can be competitive in football. Basketball maybe, but football I just do not see it.

I have nothing against Tulane fans, they are stuck in this bad sports dream as well. But at this point, I hope that Aresco and company set benchmarks for Tulane and if they do not meet them, ask the school to leave.

Agree..but will never happen, they invested money in new stadium and the academic side of the equation save them and Tulsa IMHO. Should have added state supported schools only unless it's a BYU.
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(10-02-2015 12:06 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  
(10-02-2015 11:54 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  Serious question, Can Aresco with support of the AAC presidents ask Tulane to leave the conference? Didn't Temple have this happen to them. My problem with the Tulane Administration is that they have shown no desire to improve their athletics department.

Do not really see a scenario where Tulane can be competitive in football. Basketball maybe, but football I just do not see it.

I have nothing against Tulane fans, they are stuck in this bad sports dream as well. But at this point, I hope that Aresco and company set benchmarks for Tulane and if they do not meet them, ask the school to leave.

For the life of me, I cannot yet understand why Tulsa and Tulane were added. My gut feeling is when Aresco failed to add Boise and BYU, he panic and added Tulsa and Tulane. 07-coffee3

I am sure they were lobbying pretty hard, behind the scenes, not to be left out. I'm sure.
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Tulane is our academic school. Unfortunately, right now, they are like a Vanderbilt/Rice. No one is expecting Tulane to have a Stanford type of athletic department or excel to the likes of Duke basketball, but hopefully they can show some kind of progress (similar to Northwestern this year).
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(10-02-2015 12:25 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Tulane is our academic school. Unfortunately, right now, they are like a Vanderbilt/Rice. No one is expecting Tulane to have a Stanford type of athletic department or excel to the likes of Duke basketball, but hopefully they can show some kind of progress (similar to Northwestern this year).

My main grip is there seems to be no accountability in the Tulane athletic department. SMU, TULSA and Houston realized how high the stakes were last year and did what they needed to do to get better.

Tulane fans must be fed up with this as well. Surprised a big donor has not demanded more from the sports culture at Tulane.
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(10-02-2015 12:48 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  
(10-02-2015 12:25 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Tulane is our academic school. Unfortunately, right now, they are like a Vanderbilt/Rice. No one is expecting Tulane to have a Stanford type of athletic department or excel to the likes of Duke basketball, but hopefully they can show some kind of progress (similar to Northwestern this year).

My main grip is there seems to be no accountability in the Tulane athletic department. SMU, TULSA and Houston realized how high the stakes were last year and did what they needed to do to get better.

Tulane fans must be fed up with this as well. Surprised a big donor has not demanded more from the sports culture at Tulane.

Maybe they have bigger fish to fry

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(10-02-2015 12:06 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  
(10-02-2015 11:54 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  Serious question, Can Aresco with support of the AAC presidents ask Tulane to leave the conference? Didn't Temple have this happen to them. My problem with the Tulane Administration is that they have shown no desire to improve their athletics department.

Do not really see a scenario where Tulane can be competitive in football. Basketball maybe, but football I just do not see it.

I have nothing against Tulane fans, they are stuck in this bad sports dream as well. But at this point, I hope that Aresco and company set benchmarks for Tulane and if they do not meet them, ask the school to leave.

For the life of me, I cannot yet understand why Tulsa and Tulane were added. My gut feeling is when Aresco failed to add Boise and BYU, he panic and added Tulsa and Tulane. 07-coffee3

Agree. Still trying to figure it out. Bad fit.
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If we're talking calendar year 2015, throw in Houston > Pitt at the Armed Forces Bowl.

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WTF???? I thought when I joined this lovely community there was a "No Troll" guarantee????

Go away DA, you know good and well BYU was never a legit option and Boise & SDSU stayed put when Big East lost P5 access.


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(10-02-2015 11:54 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  Serious question, Can Aresco with support of the AAC presidents ask Tulane to leave the conference? Didn't Temple have this happen to them. My problem with the Tulane Administration is that they have shown no desire to improve their athletics department.

Do not really see a scenario where Tulane can be competitive in football. Basketball maybe, but football I just do not see it.

I have nothing against Tulane fans, they are stuck in this bad sports dream as well. But at this point, I hope that Aresco and company set benchmarks for Tulane and if they do not meet them, ask the school to leave.
Oh stop it.
Our athletics, aside from football, are superior to ECU's over any measured time frame.
There are plenty of scenarios. Heck we were top 10 more recently than you were (and most of the rest of the league).
ECU has never - not once - made a NIT, much less the NCAA on its own merits. Look in the mirror regarding scenarios. You have 50+ years against you.

(10-02-2015 12:15 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Tulane on the other hand is historically a...
And where does that leave ECU, who aside from football, is far less accomplished than Tulane in basketball (3 NCAAs 4 NITs since 1990 v. 0 for ECU), women's basketball (11 NCAAs since 1995 v. 1 or 2), and baseball (2 CWS this century v. zero) and most other sports.
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First, ECU has been to 2 NCAA tournaments in men's basketball. Second, ECUs football program is so far ahead of Tulanes that a blind focus group wouldn't even think they were in the same classification, much less conference.
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(10-02-2015 03:52 PM)EdisonDoyle Wrote:  
(10-02-2015 11:54 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  Serious question, Can Aresco with support of the AAC presidents ask Tulane to leave the conference? Didn't Temple have this happen to them. My problem with the Tulane Administration is that they have shown no desire to improve their athletics department.

Do not really see a scenario where Tulane can be competitive in football. Basketball maybe, but football I just do not see it.

I have nothing against Tulane fans, they are stuck in this bad sports dream as well. But at this point, I hope that Aresco and company set benchmarks for Tulane and if they do not meet them, ask the school to leave.
Oh stop it.
Our athletics, aside from football, are superior to ECU's over any measured time frame.
There are plenty of scenarios. Heck we were top 10 more recently than you were (and most of the rest of the league).
ECU has never - not once - made a NIT, much less the NCAA on its own merits. Look in the mirror regarding scenarios. You have 50+ years against you.

(10-02-2015 12:15 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Tulane on the other hand is historically a...
And where does that leave ECU, who aside from football, is far less accomplished than Tulane in basketball (3 NCAAs 4 NITs since 1990 v. 0 for ECU), women's basketball (11 NCAAs since 1995 v. 1 or 2), and baseball (2 CWS this century v. zero) and most other sports.
Sweet. You've got 1 more NCAA appearance and no fans. A turd is still a turd. Our football program looks like the NFL compared to your POS program.

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(10-02-2015 05:20 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Sweet. You've got 1 more NCAA appearance and no fans. A turd is still a turd. Our football program looks like the NFL compared to your POS program.

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One day, you'll realize that conferences are about getting the highest profile institutions possible. If you had any self-awareness, you'd have realized that years ago. If you'd venture beyond your love of the sunbelt model, you'd realize how fortunate we all are to be in a league with high profile institutions. You should relish it.

Tulane spent over $100 million in the last several years on a football stadium, baseball stadium, and state of the art basketball practice facility. The next wave is coming the beginning of next year for more football facilities and tennis courts.
Football can be fixed. That's the easy part.
We can do the hard part, like acquire the resources, and maintain and build a high profile institution.
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(10-02-2015 08:41 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  In my opinion the valuable American schools are:

Connecticut
Temple
Navy
Cincinnati
Memphis
East Carolina
Central Florida
South Florida
Houston

The American weak links are:

Tulane, Tulsa and SMU.

07-coffee3

In my opinion the valuable ACC schools are: Florida St, Clemson and Georgia Tech. The other 11 are horrible. The weakest link is Louisville. Its going to be so wonderful when the ACC gets raided and the rest get "rice'd" cheers!
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(10-02-2015 08:13 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(10-02-2015 08:41 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  In my opinion the valuable American schools are:

Connecticut
Temple
Navy
Cincinnati
Memphis
East Carolina
Central Florida
South Florida
Houston

The American weak links are:

Tulane, Tulsa and SMU.

07-coffee3

In my opinion the valuable ACC schools are: Florida St, Clemson and Georgia Tech. The other 11 are horrible. The weakest link is Louisville. Its going to be so wonderful when the ACC gets raided and the rest get "rice'd" cheers!

Wake and Pitt might be weaker
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(10-02-2015 12:09 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  
(10-02-2015 11:39 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(10-02-2015 10:02 AM)vcoog Wrote:  As of this moment I feel as if Tulane shouldnt have athletics. I'm going to the UH/Tulane game IF Houston handles their business with smu and Tulsa and I'll evaluate what's going on there then.

There was no way ECU should have lost to Tulane last year...yet they did. No one in this conference can be overlooked on any particular Sat..or Thur..or Friday...damn.

ECU beat Tulane 34-6 last year.......

Ha!

Also, way to go Tulane! Who would have picked them to beat UCF at the beginning of the season.
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ECU's baseball program is better than Tulane's CWS or not. Womens basketball is even at best for Tulane as is Men's basketball.
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I read in another thread where Louisville was no good. How can we really value Houston's win if that's the case?
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(10-02-2015 08:13 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(10-02-2015 08:41 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  In my opinion the valuable American schools are:

Connecticut
Temple
Navy
Cincinnati
Memphis
East Carolina
Central Florida
South Florida
Houston

The American weak links are:

Tulane, Tulsa and SMU.

07-coffee3

In my opinion the valuable ACC schools are: Florida St, Clemson and Georgia Tech. The other 11 are horrible. The weakest link is Louisville. Its going to be so wonderful when the ACC gets raided and the rest get "rice'd" cheers!

Louisville is likely the 6th or 7th best ACC school this year behind FSU, Clemson, GT, Duke, and Pitt. They are probably equal with VT and UNC this year. 60% of their offense have come from freshmen.
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