Last three G5's to enter P5. I'm gonna say not much. Looks like more of the same.
WVU is out of place. Rutgers is bad (in many ways). UofL is searching for success.

I just don't see any more schools being called up.

(10-01-2015 04:22 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Last three G5's to enter P5. I'm gonna say not much. Looks like more of the same.
WVU is out of place. Rutgers is bad (in many ways). UofL is searching for success.

I just don't see any more schools being called up.

WVU would be out of place in the AAC.

Rutgers would arguably be bad in the AAC (no offense to their fans. I'm pulling for you guys)

UofL would likely not be searching for success in the AAC.


Now if you don't mind, I have a battle of top-25 teams to prepare for.

You forgot to mention Pitt and Syracuse. WVU played in the P5 before they did

Edit: also TCU

(10-01-2015 04:29 PM)EerMeNow Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 04:22 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Last three G5's to enter P5. I'm gonna say not much. Looks like more of the same.
WVU is out of place. Rutgers is bad (in many ways). UofL is searching for success.

I just don't see any more schools being called up.

WVU would be out of place in the AAC.

Rutgers would arguably be bad in the AAC (no offense to their fans. I'm pulling for you guys)

UofL would likely not be searching for success in the AAC.


Now if you don't mind, I have a battle of top-25 teams to prepare for.

Hey I want WVU to kick Azz cause I enjoyed our games but as far as making an "impact" on the conference since you have been a member I'm gonna say no. Rutgers hasn't either and my team hasn't delivered as I expected. All I'm saying is that the P5 is better than most people would make them out to be. That is a tribute to the players and coaches.

Well so far the various additions (not including this year):

Big 10 52-27, 29-20 in conference, 1 division title, #24 and #25 final ranking in 6 seasons for the 3 schools, no BCS/Big 6 bowls
ACC 32-32, 17-23 in conference, #24 ranking in 5 seasons for the 3 schools, no BCS/Big 6 bowls
Pac 12 37-62, 18-54 in conference, no rankings in 8 seasons for the 2 schools, no BCS/Big 6 bowls
SEC 56-23, 29-19 in conference, 2 division titles, #5, #6, #14, #18 ranking in 6 seasons for the 2 schools, no BCS/Big 6 bowls
Big 12 41-35, 25-29 in conference, 1 conference title, #3 ranking in 6 seasons for the 2 schools, no BCS, 1 Big 6 bowl

(10-01-2015 05:05 PM)bullet Wrote:  Well so far the various additions (not including this year):

Big 10 52-27, 29-20 in conference, 1 division title, #24 and #25 final ranking in 6 seasons for the 3 schools, no BCS/Big 6 bowls
ACC 32-32, 17-23 in conference, #24 ranking in 5 seasons for the 3 schools, no BCS/Big 6 bowls
Pac 12 37-62, 18-54 in conference, no rankings in 8 seasons for the 2 schools, no BCS/Big 6 bowls
SEC 56-23, 29-19 in conference, 2 division titles, #5, #6, #14, #18 ranking in 6 seasons for the 2 schools, no BCS/Big 6 bowls
Big 12 41-35, 25-29 in conference, 1 conference title, #3 ranking in 6 seasons for the 2 schools, no BCS, 1 Big 6 bowl

WVU and UofL replaced schools. Rutgers did not. How'd they do?

I would like to focus on additions versus replacements. TCU and WVU were replacements. Rutgers and Maryland were additions. UofL was a replacement and Syracuse and Pittsburgh were an addition.

How is each school performing for each conference?

It truly is tough I know. As far as the ACC goes, I know many teams feel like they are better than WF or Cuse and could equal UofL on the field. The truth of the matter is this, WF, Cuse, Pitt, WVU, Pitt, TCU, Baylor are all about equal any given year.

It's not like WVU is lighting up in the Big 12

(10-01-2015 05:05 PM)bullet Wrote:  Well so far the various additions (not including this year):

Big 10 52-27, 29-20 in conference, 1 division title, #24 and #25 final ranking in 6 seasons for the 3 schools, no BCS/Big 6 bowls
ACC 32-32, 17-23 in conference, #24 ranking in 5 seasons for the 3 schools, no BCS/Big 6 bowls
Pac 12 37-62, 18-54 in conference, #21 ranking in 8 seasons for the 2 schools, no BCS/Big 6 bowls
SEC 56-23, 29-19 in conference, 2 division titles, #5, #6, #14, #18 ranking in 6 seasons for the 2 schools, no BCS/Big 6 bowls
Big 12 41-35, 25-29 in conference, 1 conference title, #3 ranking in 6 seasons for the 2 schools, no BCS, 1 Big 6 bowl

minor correction

(10-01-2015 06:19 PM)rednblackattack Wrote:  It's not like WVU is lighting up in the Big 12

no way do they add to the conference rep. but they don't subtract from it either, same with us. It is surprising to me that UofL was expected to deliver more than Cuse and Pitt. I guess if you are comparing conferences you would equate Cuse and Pitt to Maryland and Rutgers. In that case, I thinks the ACC wins. As far as replacements for conferences, I guess the jury is still out for WVu to the Big 12 and UofL to the ACC.

(10-01-2015 04:22 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Last three G5's to enter P5. I'm gonna say not much. Looks like more of the same.
WVU is out of place. Rutgers is bad (in many ways). UofL is searching for success.

I just don't see any more schools being called up.

WVU's hasn't had a whole lot of impact in the Big XII to date, other than denying Baylor a playoff shot last season. But IMO that's about to change. WVU finally has the depth of talent needed to compete week in and week out in the Big XII.

However, WVU is NOT out of place. We are far removed from the rest of the Big XII. But we fit in perfectly. Big XII schools have the same ideals and values West Virginians have, football has the priority above basketball, unlike the Big East or ACC. So I don't see your point about the Mountaineers. You need to look beyond location. That's irrelevant in this equation, and actually works in WVU's favor. We are unique in the Big XII, and our recruiting shows this.

As far as Rutgers, all I will say is the B1G now has their east coast platform. Unfortunately, their representative there is a mobster.

UofL is in WVU's position a couple years ago. Be patient, and the bad times will roll past. Good times are coming. And if not, there's always basketball season. Kansas fans can relate there.

(10-01-2015 04:45 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  You forgot to mention Pitt and Syracuse. WVU played in the P5 before they did

Edit: also TCU

Wait, what? WVU wasn't in a power conference before Pitt and SU.

(10-01-2015 04:22 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Last three G5's to enter P5. I'm gonna say not much. Looks like more of the same.
WVU is out of place. Rutgers is bad (in many ways). UofL is searching for success.

I just don't see any more schools being called up.

g5's?

(10-01-2015 07:28 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 04:22 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Last three G5's to enter P5. I'm gonna say not much. Looks like more of the same.
WVU is out of place. Rutgers is bad (in many ways). UofL is searching for success.

I just don't see any more schools being called up.

g5's?

There are a lot of mistaken assumptions in this thread, dude. Just roll your eyes.

Ok, Ok.. Rutgers, UofL and WVU were the last teams out and WVU, Rutgers and UofL were the last ones in. I think all three have bettered themselves and I think both UofL and WVU expected more of themselves. P5 teams are better than we thought. We have not had the impact we thought we would.

I believe both WVU and Louisville will be just fine. They will contend in some years and be a little off in others, but I don't see either as candidates for the cellar in their respective conferences in the vast majority of seasons. Rutgers, however, should regularly finish at or near the bottom and only occasionally have respectable seasons.

Rutgers is deadweight in the B1G and always will be

WVU and Louisville are both solid adds

WVU has the higher ceiling IMHO but is kind of a fish-out-of-water in a TX/OK-based conference
Probably isn't any real solution for that problem. Adding Cincinnati or whoever from aac won't change things that much -- just something that they will have to try and deal with as best they can going forward

I really wish that money was not such a big influence in college football. Like someone else said Louisville, Rutgers, and West Virginia just all seem out of place...

(10-01-2015 08:58 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  Rutgers is deadweight in the B1G and always will be

WVU and Louisville are both solid adds

WVU has the higher ceiling IMHO but is kind of a fish-out-of-water in a TX/OK-based conference
Probably isn't any real solution for that problem. Adding Cincinnati or whoever from aac won't change things that much -- just something that they will have to try and deal with as best they can going forward

I would not say so until we see it. This is like when people were claiming Colorado was going to be such a solid add for the Pac-12.

West Virginia has a storied history but I personally see playing in Texas and Oklahoma so much taking a tool on the next generation of fans if they school is not winning 8 games or more a year.

Louisville is definitely a great boon in basketball for an already great conference. Football I don't see them being more like Virginia Tech where they string together a good season every now and then. The real benefit is that fans are familiar with the ACC teams.