(10-01-2015 01:32 PM)btiger Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 01:05 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  He might get drafted after this year, however, I think he would have a lot to gain (in drafts spots and financially) by coming back for his senior season...

why do you think that?

Going back to school work wonders for you so its bound to help him.

(10-01-2015 02:08 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 01:48 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 01:46 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 01:32 PM)btiger Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 01:05 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  He might get drafted after this year, however, I think he would have a lot to gain (in drafts spots and financially) by coming back for his senior season...

why do you think that?

I just believe he would be a late round pick, 6th or 7th round this year. If he sticks around another year and puts up 3,500+ yards for another season I think he could easily play himself into the 3rd or 4th round.

You don't think he is NFL ready QB?

I think he is an NFL caliber QB, but not NFL "ready". I might be reading too much into what you mean by saying ready...

I just think his draft stock can likely be much improved if he stays for his senior year. I think if believed he would be drafted anywhere between rounds 1-4 this year he would be gone, and would not blame him for a second on that decision. I just highly doubt he finds himself being drafted that early in the next NFL draft.

Still learning and getting rid of bad habits. But still has a long way to go before he is NFL ready. Still has not faced a god defense this year so he has a lot more to show.

(10-01-2015 06:10 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 02:08 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 01:48 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 01:46 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 01:32 PM)btiger Wrote:  why do you think that?

I just believe he would be a late round pick, 6th or 7th round this year. If he sticks around another year and puts up 3,500+ yards for another season I think he could easily play himself into the 3rd or 4th round.

You don't think he is NFL ready QB?

I think he is an NFL caliber QB, but not NFL "ready". I might be reading too much into what you mean by saying ready...

I just think his draft stock can likely be much improved if he stays for his senior year. I think if believed he would be drafted anywhere between rounds 1-4 this year he would be gone, and would not blame him for a second on that decision. I just highly doubt he finds himself being drafted that early in the next NFL draft.

Still learning and getting rid of bad habits. But still has a long way to go before he is NFL ready. Still has not faced a god defense this year so he has a lot more to show.

If he keeps winning his stock will rise. If he can go in the 1st thru 4th he would be crazy not to go. He could get on a team on a winning team and learn behind a great quarterback like Tom Brady and he would be ready then. Coming from a G5 school your not going to go first round unless you beat Alabama, Ohio State and TCU. He'll probably come back anyway just to win the AAC three times then he will go second round. We'll still have Brady Davis and Holgorson battling for the starting Job.

(10-01-2015 02:01 PM)hartless Wrote:  If he gets a first or second round prediction he's outta here. Why wait? The money is there.

There is literally no way he gets drafted that early after this season. Unlikely it happens after next season.

(10-01-2015 03:49 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 02:51 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 02:08 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 01:48 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 01:46 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  I just believe he would be a late round pick, 6th or 7th round this year. If he sticks around another year and puts up 3,500+ yards for another season I think he could easily play himself into the 3rd or 4th round.

You don't think he is NFL ready QB?

I think he is an NFL caliber QB, but not NFL "ready". I might be reading too much into what you mean by saying ready...

I just think his draft stock can likely be much improved if he stays for his senior year. I think if believed he would be drafted anywhere between rounds 1-4 this year he would be gone, and would not blame him for a second on that decision. I just highly doubt he finds himself being drafted that early in the next NFL draft.

You read it exactly as I meant it...

The only QBs that go in the first round are QBs who teams feel can play now.

I actually am undecided if he is ready...I need to see him under pressure and how he handles it. We will know after Ole Miss.

But I do not agree that a QB should leave early to go in the 3rd and 4th rounds...He can easily be on the couch with very little money the following year.

he should consider what happened to Ryan Mallet. Of course he was playing behind Brady, but going early doesn't usually work out for QBs.

That being said, the NFL could use about 15 better QBs than they have now. Paxton has the size and arm that someone will take a chance on.

Mallet is now in his 5th year in the NFL. Average NFL career is 3.4, so I'd say Paxton would be lucky to have Mallet's career.

Some people in this forum spend a lot of time worrying about all the negative things that might happen.

We're 4-0 riding a hell of a winning streak. I'm going to just enjoy the ride for the next two months and talk about next year after this fun season is over.

(10-02-2015 09:51 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  Some people in this forum spend a lot of time worrying about all the negative things that might happen.

Amen

This week will be telling as he will see a different type of D scheme he has not seen before. How quickly he adjusts is key.

(10-02-2015 09:09 AM)memphis88 Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 02:01 PM)hartless Wrote:  If he gets a first or second round prediction he's outta here. Why wait? The money is there.

There is literally no way he gets drafted that early after this season. Unlikely it happens after next season.

(10-01-2015 03:49 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 02:51 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 02:08 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 01:48 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  You don't think he is NFL ready QB?

I think he is an NFL caliber QB, but not NFL "ready". I might be reading too much into what you mean by saying ready...

I just think his draft stock can likely be much improved if he stays for his senior year. I think if believed he would be drafted anywhere between rounds 1-4 this year he would be gone, and would not blame him for a second on that decision. I just highly doubt he finds himself being drafted that early in the next NFL draft.

You read it exactly as I meant it...

The only QBs that go in the first round are QBs who teams feel can play now.

I actually am undecided if he is ready...I need to see him under pressure and how he handles it. We will know after Ole Miss.

But I do not agree that a QB should leave early to go in the 3rd and 4th rounds...He can easily be on the couch with very little money the following year.

he should consider what happened to Ryan Mallet. Of course he was playing behind Brady, but going early doesn't usually work out for QBs.

That being said, the NFL could use about 15 better QBs than they have now. Paxton has the size and arm that someone will take a chance on.

Mallet is now in his 5th year in the NFL. Average NFL career is 3.4, so I'd say Paxton would be lucky to have Mallet's career.

Mallet is also the starting QB for the Texans now... One could definitely do worse.

(10-02-2015 09:09 AM)memphis88 Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 02:01 PM)hartless Wrote:  If he gets a first or second round prediction he's outta here. Why wait? The money is there.

There is literally no way he gets drafted that early after this season. Unlikely it happens after next season.

(10-01-2015 03:49 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 02:51 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 02:08 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 01:48 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  You don't think he is NFL ready QB?

I think he is an NFL caliber QB, but not NFL "ready". I might be reading too much into what you mean by saying ready...

I just think his draft stock can likely be much improved if he stays for his senior year. I think if believed he would be drafted anywhere between rounds 1-4 this year he would be gone, and would not blame him for a second on that decision. I just highly doubt he finds himself being drafted that early in the next NFL draft.

You read it exactly as I meant it...

The only QBs that go in the first round are QBs who teams feel can play now.

I actually am undecided if he is ready...I need to see him under pressure and how he handles it. We will know after Ole Miss.

But I do not agree that a QB should leave early to go in the 3rd and 4th rounds...He can easily be on the couch with very little money the following year.

he should consider what happened to Ryan Mallet. Of course he was playing behind Brady, but going early doesn't usually work out for QBs.

That being said, the NFL could use about 15 better QBs than they have now. Paxton has the size and arm that someone will take a chance on.

Mallet is now in his 5th year in the NFL. Average NFL career is 3.4, so I'd say Paxton would be lucky to have Mallet's career.

True, my reasoning was that if he stayed for his senior year he may have been a higher draft choice and had more exposure playing than being on the sideline in New England.

(10-02-2015 11:02 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(10-02-2015 09:09 AM)memphis88 Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 02:01 PM)hartless Wrote:  If he gets a first or second round prediction he's outta here. Why wait? The money is there.

There is literally no way he gets drafted that early after this season. Unlikely it happens after next season.

(10-01-2015 03:49 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 02:51 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 02:08 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  I think he is an NFL caliber QB, but not NFL "ready". I might be reading too much into what you mean by saying ready...

I just think his draft stock can likely be much improved if he stays for his senior year. I think if believed he would be drafted anywhere between rounds 1-4 this year he would be gone, and would not blame him for a second on that decision. I just highly doubt he finds himself being drafted that early in the next NFL draft.

You read it exactly as I meant it...

The only QBs that go in the first round are QBs who teams feel can play now.

I actually am undecided if he is ready...I need to see him under pressure and how he handles it. We will know after Ole Miss.

But I do not agree that a QB should leave early to go in the 3rd and 4th rounds...He can easily be on the couch with very little money the following year.

he should consider what happened to Ryan Mallet. Of course he was playing behind Brady, but going early doesn't usually work out for QBs.

That being said, the NFL could use about 15 better QBs than they have now. Paxton has the size and arm that someone will take a chance on.

Mallet is now in his 5th year in the NFL. Average NFL career is 3.4, so I'd say Paxton would be lucky to have Mallet's career.

True, my reasoning was that if he stayed for his senior year he may have been a higher draft choice and had more exposure playing than being on the sideline in New England.

Mallet was an odd case. There were lots of rumors floating around about him cheating on tests at Arkansas and always lots of rumors about a possible drug problem. Then he allegedly missed his pre-draft interview with the Panthers because he overslept. All of that had a lot to do with him sliding in the draft as well.

Makes sense. Danny's biggest strength was always his accuracy, after all.

If he knows s he can get a big check and wants to leave, he goes with my blessing. You go to college to increase your earning potential. Seems he has done exactly that.

Yep. If he goes, he goes with us on the map and what should be our full support.

(10-02-2015 09:51 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  Some people in this forum spend a lot of time worrying about all the negative things that might happen.

Who says Paxton going early would be a negative? Thats a pretty selfish way to look at it. If Paxton gets drafted into the NFL after this season we should all be celebrating his success.

It's pretty awesome there is actually a debate over the Memphis QB declaring early.

Danny was our best q.b. with stats, but the Dude didn't have a deep ball, o.k. in college but gotta have one inNFL. Paxon has the size and decent arm, my sources tell me after next yr.,the Dude gonna be a first rounder maybe high second, but if Coach leaves all bets r off.

IF he kills it against Ole Miss he will start getting first-third round consideration i guarantee it

Paxton has all the tangible things you want in a quarterback. Great size, strong arm, can buy time with his legs. Mechanics are fair at least (not a qb mechanics guy but his motion isn't in need of major correction, probably some work to be done). He puts up stats, makes mostly good decisions. Accuracy not top end but that's the sort of thing NFL coaches think they can fix.