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WSJ Article On Athletics
Do College Sports Really Need The NCAA?

Very interesting read, opinions?
09-30-2015 09:54 AM
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(09-30-2015 09:54 AM)DexterDevil Wrote:  Do College Sports Really Need The NCAA?

Very interesting read, opinions?

No, the NCAA is a blood sucking entity that is no longer needed! 07-coffee3
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09-30-2015 09:56 AM
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No college needs a body for sports. What any organized body (be it NCAA, NAIA, USCAA..) is to have a set standard of rules for games, players, scheduling...etc. without it, you would have one set of rules and the opposing side would have its own set. More like the old days where you played according to the house rules.
Which is why in my opinion that even if the P5 break from the NCAA, they still would be under an organized body. I see more of a 4th division rather than full break.
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There doesn't need to be a "governing body", but there does have to be an administrative entity that administers rules for every sport, enforces rules on recruiting, amateurism vs. paying athletes, etc.

But it doesn't have to be the same entity for every sport. Each of the olympic sports that has a national entity could administer their college sport through that entity. E.g., USA Soccer could administer college soccer, including enforcing the rules and running national championship tournaments, the USTA could administer college tennis, and so on.

Football would be one of the few college sports for which a new entity might need to be created, and given the differences between football and other college sports, it might work out really well to start from scratch with an administrative body that only administers football.

There would be more flexibility for each sport to have its own rules instead of "one size fits all" for every college sport, and you wouldn't have one single entity with so much control as the NCAA has now.
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(09-30-2015 10:41 AM)Wedge Wrote:  There doesn't need to be a "governing body", but there does have to be an administrative entity that administers rules for every sport, enforces rules on recruiting, amateurism vs. paying athletes, etc.

But it doesn't have to be the same entity for every sport. Each of the olympic sports that has a national entity could administer their college sport through that entity. E.g., USA Soccer could administer college soccer, including enforcing the rules and running national championship tournaments, the USTA could administer college tennis, and so on.

Football would be one of the few college sports for which a new entity might need to be created, and given the differences between football and other college sports, it might work out really well to start from scratch with an administrative body that only administers football.

There would be more flexibility for each sport to have its own rules instead of "one size fits all" for every college sport, and you wouldn't have one single entity with so much control as the NCAA has now.

As a Cal fan I'm sure you know that Collegiate Rugby is ran by USA Rugby, with its own rules, and yes the one size fits all does not work.
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I've thought for years it's time for NCAA to go home.
09-30-2015 12:49 PM
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(09-30-2015 10:54 AM)DexterDevil Wrote:  
(09-30-2015 10:41 AM)Wedge Wrote:  There doesn't need to be a "governing body", but there does have to be an administrative entity that administers rules for every sport, enforces rules on recruiting, amateurism vs. paying athletes, etc.

But it doesn't have to be the same entity for every sport. Each of the olympic sports that has a national entity could administer their college sport through that entity. E.g., USA Soccer could administer college soccer, including enforcing the rules and running national championship tournaments, the USTA could administer college tennis, and so on.

Football would be one of the few college sports for which a new entity might need to be created, and given the differences between football and other college sports, it might work out really well to start from scratch with an administrative body that only administers football.

There would be more flexibility for each sport to have its own rules instead of "one size fits all" for every college sport, and you wouldn't have one single entity with so much control as the NCAA has now.

As a Cal fan I'm sure you know that Collegiate Rugby is ran by USA Rugby, with its own rules, and yes the one size fits all does not work.

Right. Seems to work fine for rugby. Different sports have different issues because of different development in each sport before college and different opportunities in the sport outside of college for elite athletes. To use another Cal example: Missy Franklin and Jared Goff had far different paths in their sports growing up and will have radically different career paths in their sports after Cal; does it really make sense to have the same set of NCAA rules applied to both swimmers and football players?
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We need the NCAA to play fairly. Give the same treatment across the board like what they did to SMU. So many schools keep breaking the rules all the time like Miami Florida, and the NCAA seems to be handcuffed at what to do. Ohio State, SMU and USC cried foul when NCAA do not do anything with schools like Miami Florida and them.
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(09-30-2015 10:41 AM)Wedge Wrote:  There doesn't need to be a "governing body", but there does have to be an administrative entity that administers rules for every sport, enforces rules on recruiting, amateurism vs. paying athletes, etc.

But it doesn't have to be the same entity for every sport. Each of the olympic sports that has a national entity could administer their college sport through that entity. E.g., USA Soccer could administer college soccer, including enforcing the rules and running national championship tournaments, the USTA could administer college tennis, and so on.

Football would be one of the few college sports for which a new entity might need to be created, and given the differences between football and other college sports, it might work out really well to start from scratch with an administrative body that only administers football.

There would be more flexibility for each sport to have its own rules instead of "one size fits all" for every college sport, and you wouldn't have one single entity with so much control as the NCAA has now.

USA Football is already the internationally recognized governing body of American football within the US. It was formed by a partnership between the NFL and the NFLPA and primarily provides training, equipment grants to needy programs, and organizes the US National Team for international competitions. The board includes quite a few NFL figures (including Roger Goodell). I don't know if an organization with such close ties to the NFL would want to oversee college football in its entirety.
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I wish the WSJ would STFU about sports. It's a financial magazine. Stick to writing about banks, and start digging into the financial corruption on Wall Street, in corporate books, and inside the beltway. If they'd spend as much time digging into financial irregularities, this nation would be far better off for it.

Football is NOT under the jurisdiction of the WSJ. Banks, the stock market, and the business sector is their bailiwick. They should stick to it, and do some real investigation about it too.
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(09-30-2015 06:25 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  I wish the WSJ would STFU about sports. It's a financial magazine. Stick to writing about banks, and start digging into the financial corruption on Wall Street, in corporate books, and inside the beltway. If they'd spend as much time digging into financial irregularities, this nation would be far better off for it.

Football is NOT under the jurisdiction of the WSJ. Banks, the stock market, and the business sector is their bailiwick. They should stick to it, and do some real investigation about it too.

WSJ writes quite a bit about the rise of rugby and lacrosse, they do very well with their pieces, and business is what they write about, which of course is what the NCAA and Athletic Departments are. Though I do agree with you on the first half.
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(09-30-2015 09:54 AM)DexterDevil Wrote:  Do College Sports Really Need The NCAA?

Very interesting read, opinions?

Interesting article, but it is a few years too late. BYU men's soccer dominated the collegiate club soccer scene in the 90s. Seeking better competition they moved to the PDL instead of the NCAAs. The benefits are better competition than the NCAAs, and being able to play in the summer when they are not in class instead of during the school year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_De...ent_League
http://www.uslpdl.com/
https://soccer.byu.edu/

Of course, it helps to have Scott Sterling and his amazing face reflexes playing goalie. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F9jXYOH2c0
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