(09-28-2015 02:11 PM)memphomike Wrote:  Duke series was more fun to me.

Not me.

(09-28-2015 02:49 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 02:11 PM)memphomike Wrote:  Duke series was more fun to me.

Not me.

why would anyone want to beat duke?

(09-28-2015 11:13 AM)tigerlands Wrote:  You have to have some meat on the schedule. We don't need to overload it but we can't load up on cupcakes either. it probably is a good idea to start playing a Big 12 game whenever we can. Even if we don't get a return game.

Nope...We should never take a buy game...

We can play neutral but no 2 for 1s or buy games.

(09-28-2015 02:03 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 01:43 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 12:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 10:48 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 10:47 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  Maybe I missed it, but does someone really think it's stupid to play Ole Miss or Tennessee? My only reservation in Tennessee is that we not play them in basketball unless they will also play football, but I think playing any SEC team is a great idea.

However, I may have missed that there is a substantial opposition to this.

Yea, you missed it. There are a LOT of folks who don't want to player either om or ut....or any sec team for that matter.

Take this year for example...suppose Memphis played MTSU instead (or some other decent G5 school). Odds are Memphis would win (esp at home) vs. MTSU. Memphis then runs the table in AAC...pretty much guaranteed the Access bowl spot.

If Memphis loses to OM and runs the AAC table, how does that affect their chances of getting the Access bowl spot?

ECU has quite a few seasons where they has a good start only to lose to their "step up" in competition that ruined chances of bog bowls. Same for USM.

Marshall played no one last year and was basically a shoe in for the Access Bowl spot until they lost to WKU.

1. I was all for trying that philosophy when RC and Tommy were playing MTSU and Arky State, but it didn't work and folks were bitching about that too. You might have been one of them.

2. I think a close loss to om could actually help our resume and give us a chance at the access bowl because there is likely not to be another unbeaten G5 school. A win over om would propel us from access bowl talk to crazy playoff talk.

Also, you might be incorrect about Marshall. 9-2 Boise was ranked ahead of 11-0 Marshall in the official College Football Playoff poll. An undefeated Marshall MIGHT have gotten the access spot, but there were no shoe in.

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/vi...gs#week-14

Good find.

I've never had a good feel for the way to best schedule. Part of me likes the old K-State method of lining up non-conference patsies, but part of that problem, historically, is that Memphis hasn't even been able to run through them.

So, the other approach is to play local stalwarts where Memphis can be competitive some times, but the fact remains Memphis is still just 2-19 vs. OM/MSU/UTk in the 2000's.

Hopefully, with the program on the upswing, some of those issues will just take care of themselves. Memphis will beat the jabronis and pick of some games vs. P5 team on the schedule.

(09-28-2015 03:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 02:03 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 01:43 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 12:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 10:48 AM)3601 Wrote:  Yea, you missed it. There are a LOT of folks who don't want to player either om or ut....or any sec team for that matter.

Take this year for example...suppose Memphis played MTSU instead (or some other decent G5 school). Odds are Memphis would win (esp at home) vs. MTSU. Memphis then runs the table in AAC...pretty much guaranteed the Access bowl spot.

If Memphis loses to OM and runs the AAC table, how does that affect their chances of getting the Access bowl spot?

ECU has quite a few seasons where they has a good start only to lose to their "step up" in competition that ruined chances of bog bowls. Same for USM.

Marshall played no one last year and was basically a shoe in for the Access Bowl spot until they lost to WKU.

1. I was all for trying that philosophy when RC and Tommy were playing MTSU and Arky State, but it didn't work and folks were bitching about that too. You might have been one of them.

2. I think a close loss to om could actually help our resume and give us a chance at the access bowl because there is likely not to be another unbeaten G5 school. A win over om would propel us from access bowl talk to crazy playoff talk.

Also, you might be incorrect about Marshall. 9-2 Boise was ranked ahead of 11-0 Marshall in the official College Football Playoff poll. An undefeated Marshall MIGHT have gotten the access spot, but there were no shoe in.

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/vi...gs#week-14

Good find.

I've never had a good feel for the way to best schedule. Part of me likes the old K-State method of lining up non-conference patsies, but part of that problem, historically, is that Memphis hasn't even been able to run through them.

So, the other approach is to play local stalwarts where Memphis can be competitive some times, but the fact remains Memphis is still just 2-19 vs. OM/MSU/UTk in the 2000's.

Hopefully, with the program on the upswing, some of those issues will just take care of themselves. Memphis will beat the jabronis and pick of some games vs. P5 team on the schedule.

A couple of years ago you seemed to be in favor of playing the Rebels..

http://csnbbs.com/thread-568419-post-808...pid8080704

I was all for trying the "K-State model" when RC and Tommy gave that a try. It was one of the few times that I actually defended RC because a bunch of folks were whining about it. At least they tried something different....it just failed miserably because we were bad at the time.

(09-28-2015 03:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 02:03 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 01:43 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 12:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 10:48 AM)3601 Wrote:  Yea, you missed it. There are a LOT of folks who don't want to player either om or ut....or any sec team for that matter.

Take this year for example...suppose Memphis played MTSU instead (or some other decent G5 school). Odds are Memphis would win (esp at home) vs. MTSU. Memphis then runs the table in AAC...pretty much guaranteed the Access bowl spot.

If Memphis loses to OM and runs the AAC table, how does that affect their chances of getting the Access bowl spot?

ECU has quite a few seasons where they has a good start only to lose to their "step up" in competition that ruined chances of bog bowls. Same for USM.

Marshall played no one last year and was basically a shoe in for the Access Bowl spot until they lost to WKU.

1. I was all for trying that philosophy when RC and Tommy were playing MTSU and Arky State, but it didn't work and folks were bitching about that too. You might have been one of them.

2. I think a close loss to om could actually help our resume and give us a chance at the access bowl because there is likely not to be another unbeaten G5 school. A win over om would propel us from access bowl talk to crazy playoff talk.

Also, you might be incorrect about Marshall. 9-2 Boise was ranked ahead of 11-0 Marshall in the official College Football Playoff poll. An undefeated Marshall MIGHT have gotten the access spot, but there were no shoe in.

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/vi...gs#week-14

Good find.

I've never had a good feel for the way to best schedule. Part of me likes the old K-State method of lining up non-conference patsies, but part of that problem, historically, is that Memphis hasn't even been able to run through them.

So, the other approach is to play local stalwarts where Memphis can be competitive some times, but the fact remains Memphis is still just 2-19 vs. OM/MSU/UTk in the 2000's.

Hopefully, with the program on the upswing, some of those issues will just take care of themselves. Memphis will beat the jabronis and pick of some games vs. P5 team on the schedule.

Lining up patsies tends to backfire when you don't win every game in conference.

(09-28-2015 03:17 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 03:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 02:03 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 01:43 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 12:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Take this year for example...suppose Memphis played MTSU instead (or some other decent G5 school). Odds are Memphis would win (esp at home) vs. MTSU. Memphis then runs the table in AAC...pretty much guaranteed the Access bowl spot.

If Memphis loses to OM and runs the AAC table, how does that affect their chances of getting the Access bowl spot?

ECU has quite a few seasons where they has a good start only to lose to their "step up" in competition that ruined chances of bog bowls. Same for USM.

Marshall played no one last year and was basically a shoe in for the Access Bowl spot until they lost to WKU.

1. I was all for trying that philosophy when RC and Tommy were playing MTSU and Arky State, but it didn't work and folks were bitching about that too. You might have been one of them.

2. I think a close loss to om could actually help our resume and give us a chance at the access bowl because there is likely not to be another unbeaten G5 school. A win over om would propel us from access bowl talk to crazy playoff talk.

Also, you might be incorrect about Marshall. 9-2 Boise was ranked ahead of 11-0 Marshall in the official College Football Playoff poll. An undefeated Marshall MIGHT have gotten the access spot, but there were no shoe in.

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/vi...gs#week-14

Good find.

I've never had a good feel for the way to best schedule. Part of me likes the old K-State method of lining up non-conference patsies, but part of that problem, historically, is that Memphis hasn't even been able to run through them.

So, the other approach is to play local stalwarts where Memphis can be competitive some times, but the fact remains Memphis is still just 2-19 vs. OM/MSU/UTk in the 2000's.

Hopefully, with the program on the upswing, some of those issues will just take care of themselves. Memphis will beat the jabronis and pick of some games vs. P5 team on the schedule.

A couple of years ago you seemed to be in favor of playing the Rebels..

http://csnbbs.com/thread-568419-post-808...pid8080704

I was all for trying the "K-State model" when RC and Tommy gave that a try. It was one of the few times that I actually defended RC because a bunch of folks were whining about it. At least they tried something different....it just failed miserably because we were bad at the time.

That was out of context in that El Nerdo was rambling about how Memphis "needed to out and schedule home and homes with national teams" and I just asked him name reasonable options. If he can't name any, then playing OM is perfectly reasonable.

I will say I DON'T like playing UT. Mostly because they will almost always win. And that's not good. Plus even in Memphis they put 25K+ in the stadium.

(09-28-2015 03:37 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 03:17 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 03:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 02:03 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 01:43 PM)3601 Wrote:  1. I was all for trying that philosophy when RC and Tommy were playing MTSU and Arky State, but it didn't work and folks were bitching about that too. You might have been one of them.

2. I think a close loss to om could actually help our resume and give us a chance at the access bowl because there is likely not to be another unbeaten G5 school. A win over om would propel us from access bowl talk to crazy playoff talk.

Also, you might be incorrect about Marshall. 9-2 Boise was ranked ahead of 11-0 Marshall in the official College Football Playoff poll. An undefeated Marshall MIGHT have gotten the access spot, but there were no shoe in.

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/vi...gs#week-14

Good find.

I've never had a good feel for the way to best schedule. Part of me likes the old K-State method of lining up non-conference patsies, but part of that problem, historically, is that Memphis hasn't even been able to run through them.

So, the other approach is to play local stalwarts where Memphis can be competitive some times, but the fact remains Memphis is still just 2-19 vs. OM/MSU/UTk in the 2000's.

Hopefully, with the program on the upswing, some of those issues will just take care of themselves. Memphis will beat the jabronis and pick of some games vs. P5 team on the schedule.

A couple of years ago you seemed to be in favor of playing the Rebels..

http://csnbbs.com/thread-568419-post-808...pid8080704

I was all for trying the "K-State model" when RC and Tommy gave that a try. It was one of the few times that I actually defended RC because a bunch of folks were whining about it. At least they tried something different....it just failed miserably because we were bad at the time.

That was out of context in that El Nerdo was rambling about how Memphis "needed to out and schedule home and homes with national teams" and I just asked him name reasonable options. If he can't name any, then playing OM is perfectly reasonable.

I will say I DON'T like playing UT. Mostly because they will almost always win. And that's not good. Plus even in Memphis they put 25K+ in the stadium.

I think UT and OM are different animals. At least they used to be. That being said, it looks like we won't be playing UT for a while. We have two games left to fill for 2017. I imagine that we should hear something soon.

Overall, I like our future scheduling. When we signed the Mizzou series they were still in the Big XII.

The BGSU home and home was a head scratcher for a couple of reasons.

I've got no problem with GA State or USA, but playing them home and home seems odd. Recruiting in the states of AL and GA is the only reason I can see doing that.

On the whole, I think it is a good mix. I hope we follow up the KU series with another Big XII home and home. Oklahoma State could be fun.

2016
SE Missouri State
Kansas
Bowling Green
at olemiss

2017
UCLA
at georgia state
open
open

2018
Georgia State
South Alabama
at mizzou
open

2019
olemiss
@ south alabama
open
open

Missouri plays in Memphis in 2021.

(09-28-2015 10:33 AM)3601 Wrote:  For those who think it is a bad idea to schedule olemiss because they are "too good" for us to play and only want to play P5 dregs like KU and Iowa State.

Maybe Fuente has the same philosophy as his mentor Gary Patterson. TCU started Big XII play in 2012. Their OOC schedules leading up to that Big XII invite included the following opponents:

2003 Arizona
2004 Northwestern and Texas Tech
2005 Oklahoma
2006 Baylor and Texas Tech
2007 Baylor and Texas
2008 Stanford and Oklahoma
2009 Virginia and Clemson
2010 Oregon State and Baylor
2011 Baylor

There are plenty of "P5 dregs" on TCU's non-conference schedules. Of these 15 teams, 7 ended up with a losing record. 2003 Arizona & 2009 Virginia were awful. Baylor wasn't anywhere close to being as good back then as they are now.

Conversely, Memphis played Ole Miss every year from 2003-2009, Miss St in 2010 & 2011, and Tennessee in 2005, 2006, 2009 & 2010. Ole Miss had a couple of bad years during that stretch, but no worse than some of TCU's opponents.

(09-28-2015 04:13 PM)CKMcDan Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 10:33 AM)3601 Wrote:  For those who think it is a bad idea to schedule olemiss because they are "too good" for us to play and only want to play P5 dregs like KU and Iowa State.

Maybe Fuente has the same philosophy as his mentor Gary Patterson. TCU started Big XII play in 2012. Their OOC schedules leading up to that Big XII invite included the following opponents:

2003 Arizona
2004 Northwestern and Texas Tech
2005 Oklahoma
2006 Baylor and Texas Tech
2007 Baylor and Texas
2008 Stanford and Oklahoma
2009 Virginia and Clemson
2010 Oregon State and Baylor
2011 Baylor

There are plenty of "P5 dregs" on TCU's non-conference schedules. Of these 15 teams, 7 ended up with a losing record. 2003 Arizona & 2009 Virginia were awful. Baylor wasn't anywhere close to being as good back then as they are now.

Conversely, Memphis played Ole Miss every year from 2003-2009, Miss St in 2010 & 2011, and Tennessee in 2005, 2006, 2009 & 2010. Ole Miss had a couple of bad years during that stretch, but no worse than some of TCU's opponents.

You may have missed the point. Patterson wasn't afraid to pepper in some big boys in the schedule. I'm guessing Fuente isn't terrified of playing olemiss now and then. I never advocated going back to playing a loaded ooc schedule.

Let's stretch ourselves. Enjoy a challenge. At home. With two weeks to prepare.