Notable moves:

TCU falls 1 spot to #3
Utah up 5 to #12
WVU surges into the poll at #21
Michigan just outside at #26.

Boise State top-rated G5 at #31.


http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/foo...ches-poll/

I'm just shocked...
Boise State 47
Memphis 42
Temple 18
Toledo 15

Wow, I thought Toledo was going to be ranked. They aren't even the #1 G5 team. Not even close. Sucks to be in the MAC. Guess MACTION isn't all it's cut up to be.

(09-27-2015 11:43 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I'm just shocked...
Boise State 47
Memphis 42
Temple 18
Toledo 15

Wow, I thought Toledo was going to be ranked. They aren't even the #1 G5 team. Not even close. Sucks to be in the MAC. Guess MACTION isn't all it's cut up to be.

LOL.

(09-27-2015 11:43 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I'm just shocked...
Boise State 47
Memphis 42
Temple 18
Toledo 15

Wow, I thought Toledo was going to be ranked. They aren't even the #1 G5 team. Not even close. Sucks to be in the MAC. Guess MACTION isn't all it's cut up to be.

Boise has the name recognition and they do have two wins over P5. Voters must have missed how their loss to BYU doesn't look so hot after what happened at Michigan yesterday.

Unfortunately for Boise and Toledo, they lack further chances to burnish their resume and are stuck with weak conference schedules.

If AAC teams like Memphis can beat Ole Miss or Temple can beat Notre Dame, they will vault to the front of the G5 Access Bowl race. It's the AAC champ's bid to lose, IMO.

And Oregon is still ranked? Sheesh!

Michigan not being ranked just goes to show the SEC propaganda is still strong. Mississippi State and Florida getting in with wins against whom? They won against two of the most overranked teams in the country early on. Whom did Michigan beat? They actually beat a ranked team but they didn't just beat them, they BLANKED them. Michigan should have gotten in considering their loss was to Utah at Utah and the game was much closer than Utah vs Oregon was while Oregon is still ranked. Michigan should be in and Oregon should be out.

In another 4-5 years the B1G will eventually rise up due to the TV money.

Riley at Nebraska, Franklin at Penn State, Harbaugh at Michigan are very good coaches. They will start recruiting SEC country for 4-5 star players.

That is going to leave more talent for the second tier B1G and MAC schools to pick over so the whole region is going to rise up.

(09-27-2015 11:58 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Michigan not being ranked just goes to show the SEC propaganda is still strong. Mississippi State and Florida getting in with wins against whom? They won against two of the most overranked teams in the country early on.

Agreed about Florida, Michigan looks a lot better than they do. Mississippi State only lost to LSU, no shame.

Michigan is a blue-chip brand and if they keep winning they will surely surge in the polls, no need for a B1G fanboy to ever worry about them.

(09-27-2015 12:04 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  In another 4-5 years the B1G will eventually rise up due to the TV money.

B1G has the #1 and #2 teams and is the second best conference in the computers. Their future is NOW.

(09-27-2015 12:05 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 11:58 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Michigan not being ranked just goes to show the SEC propaganda is still strong. Mississippi State and Florida getting in with wins against whom? They won against two of the most overranked teams in the country early on.

Agreed about Florida, Michigan looks a lot better than they do. Mississippi State only lost to LSU, no shame.

Michigan is a blue-chip brand and if they keep winning they will surely surge in the polls, no need for a B1G fanboy to ever worry about them.

It doesn't take a Big Ten fanboy to promote Michigan after how they have looked this year. It takes an SEC fanboy to try and turn it into a "fanboy" thing.

Mississippi State barely squeeked by a terrible Auburn team. It takes an SEC fanboy to try and say that Miss State deserves to be in the top 25.

The thing right now with Florida especially. There are 24 undefeated P5 teams. 19 of them are ranked this week- only ones not are- NC State, Miami, Indiana, Iowa, and Kansas St.

The bigger problem than Miss St or Florida is Oregon. By far.

Frankly, don't think the voters gave Utah enough credit for what they did to Oregon.

(09-27-2015 12:10 PM)stever20 Wrote:  The thing right now with Florida especially. There are 24 undefeated P5 teams. 19 of them are ranked this week- only ones not are- NC State, Miami, Indiana, Iowa, and Kansas St.

The bigger problem than Miss St or Florida is Oregon. By far.

Frankly, don't think the voters gave Utah enough credit for what they did to Oregon.

I agree with you. My problem essentially isn't Florida or Miss State, it is Oregon. Where my point lies in the MSU/Florida comparison to Michigan is that if Oregon is going to be kept in then Michigan deserves to jump them more than both Florida and Miss State do.

I think with Florida as well- something that helped them out is 2 of their teams they beat before yesterday- East Carolina and Kentucky both got good wins yesterday.

Miss St I understand because the team that beat them is LSU, who has been one of the most impressive teams around. Fournette is the Heisman favorite right now. And Miss St took them to the end.

(09-27-2015 12:15 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I think with Florida as well- something that helped them out is 2 of their teams they beat before yesterday- East Carolina and Kentucky both got good wins yesterday.

Miss St I understand because the team that beat them is LSU, who has been one of the most impressive teams around. Fournette is the Heisman favorite right now. And Miss St took them to the end.

That is a very SEC centric view. Michigan blanked BYU, whom was ranked 19th and had impressive wins. One of those wins was against Boise, whom is once again ranked this week. Michigan's loss was also an impressive loss as they travelled across the country and played a Utah team close. At the time none of us truly realized how good that Utah team was. We know that now though.

Kentucky didn't get a good win, they beat a poor Missouri team. Just because Missouri is an SEC team, that doesn't make them a "good win".

(09-27-2015 12:07 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 12:04 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  In another 4-5 years the B1G will eventually rise up due to the TV money.

B1G has the #1 and #2 teams and is the second best conference in the computers. Their future is NOW.

Only 2 teams in the Top 15 of the rankings and 4 in the Top 25.

Considering 22% of all P5 teams play in the B1G and they represent only 13% of the Top 15 that is not very good.

With the TV money advantage should have at least 4 teams in the Top 15. It will happen but its just going to take some time.

(09-27-2015 11:36 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Notable moves:

TCU falls 1 spot to #3
Utah up 5 to #12
WVU surges into the poll at #21
Michigan just outside at #26.

Boise State top-rated G5 at #31.


http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/foo...ches-poll/

The balance is interesting-top 12
SEC 3
Big 12 2
Big 10 2
Pac 12 2
ACC 2
Ind. 1

The next 8 are:
SEC 2
Big 12 2
Big 10 2
Pac 12 2

Overall half the SEC, Pac 12 and Big 12 are ranked. 4 of 14 from the Big 10 and 2 of 14 from the ACC.

Propaganda has kept Oregon in. Propaganda got both Florida and Miss State in ahead of Michigan. It will all pan out. The SEC getting in so many this early on is pure propaganda. Everyone knows it wont end that way. It's just how they keep their teams up in the rankings because the conferences more and more doesn't end up lining up in clearly ranked hierarchies. Team A beats team B and then team B beats team C but then team C beats team A. Thus without all the early ranking love, the SEC would be screwed every single year.

(09-27-2015 11:47 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 11:43 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I'm just shocked...
Boise State 47
Memphis 42
Temple 18
Toledo 15

Wow, I thought Toledo was going to be ranked. They aren't even the #1 G5 team. Not even close. Sucks to be in the MAC. Guess MACTION isn't all it's cut up to be.

Boise has the name recognition and they do have two wins over P5. Voters must have missed how their loss to BYU doesn't look so hot after what happened at Michigan yesterday.

Unfortunately for Boise and Toledo, they lack further chances to burnish their resume and are stuck with weak conference schedules.

If AAC teams like Memphis can beat Ole Miss or Temple can beat Notre Dame, they will vault to the front of the G5 Access Bowl race. It's the AAC champ's bid to lose, IMO.

And Oregon is still ranked? Sheesh!

Don't forget about Navy, they aren't getting enough respect IMO. My ECU squad was humbled by them but against the 2 P5 teams we've played so far we've looked evenly matched (UF & VT). Navy looked much better than Mizzou did against UCONN beating them by 10 on the road and UCONN scored a late TD to make it look closer than it was. Navy is legit and is not getting the credit they deserve probably because of the service academy stigma that they don't have great athletes but if you watch them play you'll see that they are well coached, disciplined and yes they have great athletes as well. I expect them to give ND all they can handle.

Navy guys don't leave early. Navy guys generally have much better discipline as a team than other teams, at least early on in the season. They are much better prepared for the beginning of the season due to these reasons. They are perennially a better looking team early in the season than later in the season because everyone else's growth curve is much stronger.

The SEC at the top makes some sense with the tradition in that conference.

The B1G should not be stuck behind the B12 in football quality. TCU and Baylor shouldn't be in the Top 5 with Texas off the radar.

The ACC has long felt the talent squeeze by the SEC and B1G. It won't be long until the B12 is feeling it too.

PAC is essentially a two region conference now. Eight P5 teams along the Pacific coast to saturate recruiting and Four P5 teams in the Mountain Region (Arizona, Arizona St, Utah, Colorado) to suck up all the P5 level recruiting in that lightly populated area.

(09-27-2015 12:20 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 12:15 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I think with Florida as well- something that helped them out is 2 of their teams they beat before yesterday- East Carolina and Kentucky both got good wins yesterday.

Miss St I understand because the team that beat them is LSU, who has been one of the most impressive teams around. Fournette is the Heisman favorite right now. And Miss St took them to the end.

That is a very SEC centric view. Michigan blanked BYU, whom was ranked 19th and had impressive wins. One of those wins was against Boise, whom is once again ranked this week. Michigan's loss was also an impressive loss as they travelled across the country and played a Utah team close. At the time none of us truly realized how good that Utah team was. We know that now though.

Kentucky didn't get a good win, they beat a poor Missouri team. Just because Missouri is an SEC team, that doesn't make them a "good win".

BYU wasn't ranked last week in coaches at all, and only 22 in AP.

The problem isn't Florida or Miss St. It's Oregon.