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I am impressed with the AAC this year. You are playing good ball except for your bottom 3, UCF, SMU,Tulane. Without a collapse, the AAC will tops this year and it isn't that close. I see the Mac and CUSA battling for second, with the MAC ahead right now. MWC coming in 4th and the fun belt being in last.

You guys have to be loving the HERD sucking this weekend. Hopefully it is humbling enough to keep them off your board.

Good job and great game ECU.
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RE: FBS League rankings after week 4
(09-27-2015 10:01 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  
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(09-27-2015 01:35 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  
(09-26-2015 11:45 PM)transitt Wrote:  Bowling Green has half the P5 wins for the MAC.

and Toledo has the other half. and?

the real kicker is MAC teams lost 6 P5 games by a TD or less, 4 by a FG. Unfortunately there's no such thing as almost winning. On the plus side they did manage to win all their FCS games though. I didn't see those totals listed here for each conference though. 07-coffee3

Here ya go
AAC 8-2
MAC 9-0
CUSA 9-0
MWC 10-0
SBC 9-0

Now what this shows us is that records against FCS schools have no bearing on how good a conference is and are irrelevant as long as it's not more than a couple losses.

yeah sure, as long its not more than a couple of losses to FCS teams who cares right? lol WOW.


There is no context though.

A school like JMU is near the top of that division not only in ranking but in money, support etc. Hell they look more big time than most of the MAC or CUSA and would likely win a lot of games in the MAC, Sun Belt or CUSA.

You going to tell me they are a worse program than 2 year old Charlotte or these other upstarts or Eastern Michigan that can't draw but like 5k people? When they beat one of our current lower teams like SMU that's not the same as beating up on some crappy FCS which is generally assumed.

Frankly a school like JMU has no business in the FCS as many scrubs have moved up. I don't even consider it a bad loss considering it was SMU at this point. Essentially like an upper half Sun Belt or probably MAC school beating a bottom AAC school.
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(09-27-2015 01:35 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  
(09-26-2015 11:45 PM)transitt Wrote:  Bowling Green has half the P5 wins for the MAC.

and Toledo has the other half. and?

the real kicker is MAC teams lost 6 P5 games by a TD or less, 4 by a FG. Unfortunately there's no such thing as almost winning. On the plus side they did manage to win all their FCS games though. I didn't see those totals listed here for each conference though. 07-coffee3

Heh, it was a little shot at the Houston fans who said that BG was a mediocre team and that it wasn't a good win for Memphis. 03-lmfao
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(09-27-2015 10:48 AM)transitt Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 01:35 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  
(09-26-2015 11:45 PM)transitt Wrote:  Bowling Green has half the P5 wins for the MAC.

and Toledo has the other half. and?

the real kicker is MAC teams lost 6 P5 games by a TD or less, 4 by a FG. Unfortunately there's no such thing as almost winning. On the plus side they did manage to win all their FCS games though. I didn't see those totals listed here for each conference though. 07-coffee3

Heh, it was a little shot at the Houston fans who said that BG was a mediocre team and that it wasn't a good win for Memphis. 03-lmfao

just making sure we are clear than BGSU barely beat a bad purdue team yesterday and i mean skin of the teeth ..... won with 9 seconds left

bighouston was the one trying to downplay BGSU, i think they are a decent win

the really laughable part was the one that memphis fans were posting that bgsu would beat houston by 21+
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RE: FBS League rankings after week 4
(09-27-2015 10:02 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  I am impressed with the AAC this year. You are playing good ball except for your bottom 3, UCF, SMU,Tulane. Without a collapse, the AAC will tops this year and it isn't that close. I see the Mac and CUSA battling for second, with the MAC ahead right now. MWC coming in 4th and the fun belt being in last.

You guys have to be loving the HERD sucking this weekend. Hopefully it is humbling enough to keep them off your board.

Good job and great game ECU.


lol it was a win for both side...struggling versus a bad kent state team will keep them out of our hair but managing to win will keep our fans from trolling them on your boards
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(09-27-2015 11:00 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 10:48 AM)transitt Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 01:35 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  
(09-26-2015 11:45 PM)transitt Wrote:  Bowling Green has half the P5 wins for the MAC.

and Toledo has the other half. and?

the real kicker is MAC teams lost 6 P5 games by a TD or less, 4 by a FG. Unfortunately there's no such thing as almost winning. On the plus side they did manage to win all their FCS games though. I didn't see those totals listed here for each conference though. 07-coffee3

Heh, it was a little shot at the Houston fans who said that BG was a mediocre team and that it wasn't a good win for Memphis. 03-lmfao

just making sure we are clear than BGSU barely beat a bad purdue team yesterday and i mean skin of the teeth ..... won with 9 seconds left

bighouston was the one trying to downplay BGSU, i think they are a decent win

the really laughable part was the one that memphis fans were posting that bgsu would beat houston by 21+

It was all in fun. The fact remains, though, that BG has two P5 road wins.
None of Houston's opponents thus far have a single FBS win between the three of them!
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With how good the rest of the AAC has looked this year, I really wish UCF had it's 2012, 2013, or 2014 teams.... there would be a lot of good football games to be had.

As it stands, I'm hoping all these true freshmen and redshirt freshmen we're playing can get some experience and improve to take a couple games down the stretch.
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(09-27-2015 11:16 AM)NothingButKnight Wrote:  With how good the rest of the AAC has looked this year, I really wish UCF had it's 2012, 2013, or 2014 teams.... there would be a lot of good football games to be had.

As it stands, I'm hoping all these true freshmen and redshirt freshmen we're playing can get some experience and improve to take a couple games down the stretch.

Maybe the 2012 and 2013 UCF teams but not the 2014 team. JMO, your team last year was overated and vastly over achieved (which is always a good thing by the way). We'll never know of course but I think UCF's 2014 team's record would be worse if it had to play this year's American opponents.
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RE: FBS League rankings after week 4
(09-27-2015 10:42 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 10:01 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 08:40 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 01:35 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  
(09-26-2015 11:45 PM)transitt Wrote:  Bowling Green has half the P5 wins for the MAC.

and Toledo has the other half. and?

the real kicker is MAC teams lost 6 P5 games by a TD or less, 4 by a FG. Unfortunately there's no such thing as almost winning. On the plus side they did manage to win all their FCS games though. I didn't see those totals listed here for each conference though. 07-coffee3

Here ya go
AAC 8-2
MAC 9-0
CUSA 9-0
MWC 10-0
SBC 9-0

Now what this shows us is that records against FCS schools have no bearing on how good a conference is and are irrelevant as long as it's not more than a couple losses.

yeah sure, as long its not more than a couple of losses to FCS teams who cares right? lol WOW.


There is no context though.

A school like JMU is near the top of that division not only in ranking but in money, support etc. Hell they look more big time than most of the MAC or CUSA and would likely win a lot of games in the MAC, Sun Belt or CUSA.

You going to tell me they are a worse program than 2 year old Charlotte or these other upstarts or Eastern Michigan that can't draw but like 5k people? When they beat one of our current lower teams like SMU that's not the same as beating up on some crappy FCS which is generally assumed.

Frankly a school like JMU has no business in the FCS as many scrubs have moved up. I don't even consider it a bad loss considering it was SMU at this point. Essentially like an upper half Sun Belt or probably MAC school beating a bottom AAC school.

you're trying to argue the strength of your conference by saying we shouldn't be surprised when one of your lower teams loses to an FCS team? uhhh, ok. If you say so.
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RE: FBS League rankings after week 4
(09-27-2015 12:35 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 10:42 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 10:01 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 08:40 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 01:35 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  and Toledo has the other half. and?

the real kicker is MAC teams lost 6 P5 games by a TD or less, 4 by a FG. Unfortunately there's no such thing as almost winning. On the plus side they did manage to win all their FCS games though. I didn't see those totals listed here for each conference though. 07-coffee3

Here ya go
AAC 8-2
MAC 9-0
CUSA 9-0
MWC 10-0
SBC 9-0

Now what this shows us is that records against FCS schools have no bearing on how good a conference is and are irrelevant as long as it's not more than a couple losses.

yeah sure, as long its not more than a couple of losses to FCS teams who cares right? lol WOW.


There is no context though.

A school like JMU is near the top of that division not only in ranking but in money, support etc. Hell they look more big time than most of the MAC or CUSA and would likely win a lot of games in the MAC, Sun Belt or CUSA.

You going to tell me they are a worse program than 2 year old Charlotte or these other upstarts or Eastern Michigan that can't draw but like 5k people? When they beat one of our current lower teams like SMU that's not the same as beating up on some crappy FCS which is generally assumed.

Frankly a school like JMU has no business in the FCS as many scrubs have moved up. I don't even consider it a bad loss considering it was SMU at this point. Essentially like an upper half Sun Belt or probably MAC school beating a bottom AAC school.

you're trying to argue the strength of your conference by saying we shouldn't be surprised when one of your lower teams loses to an FCS team? uhhh, ok. If you say so.

No he's saying JMU would win the MAC which is accurate
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RE: FBS League rankings after week 4
(09-27-2015 12:42 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 12:35 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 10:42 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 10:01 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 08:40 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  Here ya go
AAC 8-2
MAC 9-0
CUSA 9-0
MWC 10-0
SBC 9-0

Now what this shows us is that records against FCS schools have no bearing on how good a conference is and are irrelevant as long as it's not more than a couple losses.

yeah sure, as long its not more than a couple of losses to FCS teams who cares right? lol WOW.


There is no context though.

A school like JMU is near the top of that division not only in ranking but in money, support etc. Hell they look more big time than most of the MAC or CUSA and would likely win a lot of games in the MAC, Sun Belt or CUSA.

You going to tell me they are a worse program than 2 year old Charlotte or these other upstarts or Eastern Michigan that can't draw but like 5k people? When they beat one of our current lower teams like SMU that's not the same as beating up on some crappy FCS which is generally assumed.

Frankly a school like JMU has no business in the FCS as many scrubs have moved up. I don't even consider it a bad loss considering it was SMU at this point. Essentially like an upper half Sun Belt or probably MAC school beating a bottom AAC school.

you're trying to argue the strength of your conference by saying we shouldn't be surprised when one of your lower teams loses to an FCS team? uhhh, ok. If you say so.

No he's saying JMU would win the MAC which is accurate

JMU would likely be third in the MAC behind Toledo and Bowling Green.
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RE: FBS League rankings after week 4
(09-27-2015 12:35 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 10:42 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 10:01 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 08:40 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 01:35 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  and Toledo has the other half. and?

the real kicker is MAC teams lost 6 P5 games by a TD or less, 4 by a FG. Unfortunately there's no such thing as almost winning. On the plus side they did manage to win all their FCS games though. I didn't see those totals listed here for each conference though. 07-coffee3

Here ya go
AAC 8-2
MAC 9-0
CUSA 9-0
MWC 10-0
SBC 9-0

Now what this shows us is that records against FCS schools have no bearing on how good a conference is and are irrelevant as long as it's not more than a couple losses.

yeah sure, as long its not more than a couple of losses to FCS teams who cares right? lol WOW.


There is no context though.

A school like JMU is near the top of that division not only in ranking but in money, support etc. Hell they look more big time than most of the MAC or CUSA and would likely win a lot of games in the MAC, Sun Belt or CUSA.

You going to tell me they are a worse program than 2 year old Charlotte or these other upstarts or Eastern Michigan that can't draw but like 5k people? When they beat one of our current lower teams like SMU that's not the same as beating up on some crappy FCS which is generally assumed.

Frankly a school like JMU has no business in the FCS as many scrubs have moved up. I don't even consider it a bad loss considering it was SMU at this point. Essentially like an upper half Sun Belt or probably MAC school beating a bottom AAC school.

you're trying to argue the strength of your conference by saying we shouldn't be surprised when one of your lower teams loses to an FCS team? uhhh, ok. If you say so.

didnt emu lost to odu a team that is filled with an fcs players and old just joined the fbs

everyone has praised the MAC wins....you dont see anyone running to call out emu and use it as some definer of the mac's strength
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(09-26-2015 11:51 PM)transitt Wrote:  
(09-26-2015 11:47 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(09-26-2015 11:39 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  outside of Boise, there really is not much to like about the MWC

this is not new....

every year (the perception):
boise having an elite year: the MWC might be the best g5
boise having above average year but not enough to blind everyone: the mwc isnt very good

if boise were to ever have a 7-5. 6-6 season sunbelt comparisons will come up

Reality: MWC ='s slightly weaker CUSA with a really good team in Boise.

I think you hit the nail in the head with this ^^^ transitt

Only reason why I feel the AAC is way above the mwc is your point above... boise is why that conference is even mention... Now if we place boise in the AAC they will have to earn most of their victories were most times 2-3 conference loses yearly.
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(09-27-2015 01:56 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(09-26-2015 11:51 PM)transitt Wrote:  
(09-26-2015 11:47 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(09-26-2015 11:39 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  outside of Boise, there really is not much to like about the MWC

this is not new....

every year (the perception):
boise having an elite year: the MWC might be the best g5
boise having above average year but not enough to blind everyone: the mwc isnt very good

if boise were to ever have a 7-5. 6-6 season sunbelt comparisons will come up

Reality: MWC ='s slightly weaker CUSA with a really good team in Boise.

I think you hit the nail in the head with this ^^^ transitt

Only reason why I feel the AAC is way above the mwc is your point above... boise is why that conference is even mention... Now if we place boise in the AAC they will have to earn most of their victories were most times 2-3 conference loses yearly.

Which is why, for now, Boise is smart to stay where they are.
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(09-27-2015 01:56 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(09-26-2015 11:51 PM)transitt Wrote:  
(09-26-2015 11:47 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(09-26-2015 11:39 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  outside of Boise, there really is not much to like about the MWC

this is not new....

every year (the perception):
boise having an elite year: the MWC might be the best g5
boise having above average year but not enough to blind everyone: the mwc isnt very good

if boise were to ever have a 7-5. 6-6 season sunbelt comparisons will come up

Reality: MWC ='s slightly weaker CUSA with a really good team in Boise.

I think you hit the nail in the head with this ^^^ transitt

Only reason why I feel the AAC is way above the mwc is your point above... boise is why that conference is even mention... Now if we place boise in the AAC they will have to earn most of their victories were most times 2-3 conference loses yearly.

The MWC get's a lot of respect for the past too.

BYU, TCU and Utah all did some great things there, as well as Boise.

Problem is BYU, TCU and Utah are no longer in that conference.

They had a couple of good teams last season, appear to be way way way down this season.

The AAC has done really well this OOC so far all things considered. Certainly, the top G5 conference and it's not even close.

Some people from other conferences are trying to compare the strength of 2 of our teams at the bottom? I would love to see what the bottom 2 teams of any conference do against JMU. A $40 million athletic budget at an FCS??? That's ridiculous and as Pesik pointed out is higher than several G5 teams.
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(09-27-2015 02:19 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 01:56 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(09-26-2015 11:51 PM)transitt Wrote:  
(09-26-2015 11:47 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(09-26-2015 11:39 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  outside of Boise, there really is not much to like about the MWC

this is not new....

every year (the perception):
boise having an elite year: the MWC might be the best g5
boise having above average year but not enough to blind everyone: the mwc isnt very good

if boise were to ever have a 7-5. 6-6 season sunbelt comparisons will come up

Reality: MWC ='s slightly weaker CUSA with a really good team in Boise.

I think you hit the nail in the head with this ^^^ transitt

Only reason why I feel the AAC is way above the mwc is your point above... boise is why that conference is even mention... Now if we place boise in the AAC they will have to earn most of their victories were most times 2-3 conference loses yearly.

The MWC get's a lot of respect for the past too.

BYU, TCU and Utah all did some great things there, as well as Boise.

Problem is BYU, TCU and Utah are no longer in that conference.

They had a couple of good teams last season, appear to be way way way down this season.

The AAC has done really well this OOC so far all things considered. Certainly, the top G5 conference and it's not even close.

Some people from other conferences are trying to compare the strength of 2 of our teams at the bottom? I would love to see what the bottom 2 teams of any conference do against JMU. A $40 million athletic budget at an FCS??? That's ridiculous and as Pesik pointed out is higher than several G5 teams.

LOL at those who are focusing at our not good yet bottom programs, its quite clear they're jealous of the AAC.
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RE: FBS League rankings after week 4
(09-27-2015 12:42 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 12:35 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 10:42 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 10:01 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  
(09-27-2015 08:40 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  Here ya go
AAC 8-2
MAC 9-0
CUSA 9-0
MWC 10-0
SBC 9-0

Now what this shows us is that records against FCS schools have no bearing on how good a conference is and are irrelevant as long as it's not more than a couple losses.

yeah sure, as long its not more than a couple of losses to FCS teams who cares right? lol WOW.


There is no context though.

A school like JMU is near the top of that division not only in ranking but in money, support etc. Hell they look more big time than most of the MAC or CUSA and would likely win a lot of games in the MAC, Sun Belt or CUSA.

You going to tell me they are a worse program than 2 year old Charlotte or these other upstarts or Eastern Michigan that can't draw but like 5k people? When they beat one of our current lower teams like SMU that's not the same as beating up on some crappy FCS which is generally assumed.

Frankly a school like JMU has no business in the FCS as many scrubs have moved up. I don't even consider it a bad loss considering it was SMU at this point. Essentially like an upper half Sun Belt or probably MAC school beating a bottom AAC school.

you're trying to argue the strength of your conference by saying we shouldn't be surprised when one of your lower teams loses to an FCS team? uhhh, ok. If you say so.

No he's saying JMU would win the MAC which is accurate

I didn't say that. I said they would probably be upper half. He completely misses the context though of what teams in the FCS are playing which teams. There is a huge difference in some Campbell type scrub that App State played last year I think and a team like JMU, especially when a team like SMU that's not even that good is losing to them.
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