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RE: Arkansas State Preview
(09-25-2015 02:22 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  
(09-25-2015 12:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(09-24-2015 07:11 PM)Rocket A Wrote:  Rockets need to treat this like a conference game, what happened last year doesn't matter.

You guys are going to be expected Nationally to run through us and the rest of the MAC because you beat Arkansas and Iowa State. Its based off of little knowledge of any of the G5 in general, and the assumption that Iowa State and Arkansas are automatically better than the rest of us because they play in bigger leagues.

The reality is, You've got three or four teams left on your schedule that are probably better than Iowa State...and all of those teams have seen you before and know your team a lot more.

I've already seen comments like this all week...people wondering why Toledo is only 7 point favorites for this game...simply people who don't actually spend much time looking at the quality of the G5 in general.

The reality is we could beat you guys by 2 scores tomorrow and then you could still turn around and win the MAC comfortably. No one team is the same, no one game is the same.

Well said.

On a somewhat related topic--since we both struggle as G5 programs--I would love to see Arkansas State in the MAC.

What needs to happen is the schools that ARE serious about Division I FBS football like Toledo and Arkansas State need to form a real conference and let the pretenders like EMU (let's hide our stadium with tarps) drop down to FCS!!!!!!

I would love to have Arkansas State as a conference partner!!!!!!!
THEY GET IT!!!!!!!!!
09-25-2015 03:07 PM
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RE: Arkansas State Preview
(09-25-2015 03:07 PM)Terry Wrote:  
(09-25-2015 02:22 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  
(09-25-2015 12:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(09-24-2015 07:11 PM)Rocket A Wrote:  Rockets need to treat this like a conference game, what happened last year doesn't matter.

You guys are going to be expected Nationally to run through us and the rest of the MAC because you beat Arkansas and Iowa State. Its based off of little knowledge of any of the G5 in general, and the assumption that Iowa State and Arkansas are automatically better than the rest of us because they play in bigger leagues.

The reality is, You've got three or four teams left on your schedule that are probably better than Iowa State...and all of those teams have seen you before and know your team a lot more.

I've already seen comments like this all week...people wondering why Toledo is only 7 point favorites for this game...simply people who don't actually spend much time looking at the quality of the G5 in general.

The reality is we could beat you guys by 2 scores tomorrow and then you could still turn around and win the MAC comfortably. No one team is the same, no one game is the same.

Well said.

On a somewhat related topic--since we both struggle as G5 programs--I would love to see Arkansas State in the MAC.

What needs to happen is the schools that ARE serious about Division I FBS football like Toledo and Arkansas State need to form a real conference and let the pretenders like EMU (let's hide our stadium with tarps) drop down to FCS!!!!!!

I would love to have Arkansas State as a conference partner!!!!!!!
THEY GET IT!!!!!!!!!

Only if you brought in ARK STATE, MTSU, WKU, and Marshall to get 16.
09-25-2015 03:46 PM
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is terry swanson healthy...will he have big role Saturday or will it be all jones moore and remy....of course if hunt is out
09-25-2015 03:47 PM
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RE: Arkansas State Preview
(09-25-2015 03:07 PM)Terry Wrote:  
(09-25-2015 02:22 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  
(09-25-2015 12:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(09-24-2015 07:11 PM)Rocket A Wrote:  Rockets need to treat this like a conference game, what happened last year doesn't matter.

You guys are going to be expected Nationally to run through us and the rest of the MAC because you beat Arkansas and Iowa State. Its based off of little knowledge of any of the G5 in general, and the assumption that Iowa State and Arkansas are automatically better than the rest of us because they play in bigger leagues.

The reality is, You've got three or four teams left on your schedule that are probably better than Iowa State...and all of those teams have seen you before and know your team a lot more.

I've already seen comments like this all week...people wondering why Toledo is only 7 point favorites for this game...simply people who don't actually spend much time looking at the quality of the G5 in general.

The reality is we could beat you guys by 2 scores tomorrow and then you could still turn around and win the MAC comfortably. No one team is the same, no one game is the same.

Well said.

On a somewhat related topic--since we both struggle as G5 programs--I would love to see Arkansas State in the MAC.

What needs to happen is the schools that ARE serious about Division I FBS football like Toledo and Arkansas State need to form a real conference and let the pretenders like EMU (let's hide our stadium with tarps) drop down to FCS!!!!!!

I would love to have Arkansas State as a conference partner!!!!!!!
THEY GET IT!!!!!!!!!

Agreed, but I have a better idea. I am also a big soccer/futbol fan. This is what relegation is all about. We should have something similar for FCS/Group of Five/Power Five conferences. Forget stadium sizes, $$$, prestige or anything else they use to determine worth, and let the teams ebb and flow as they demonstrate, or don't demonstrate, success on the field. For example, if EMU can never do squat in the MAC, they would be relegated down to an FCS sister conference until they could move back up by being at the top of their conference there. There could be a 3-tier conference affiliation and teams would be allowed to move up and down the ladder (top 2, bottom 2). If teams like OSU and Alabama (or Illinois Purdue for a lesser example) want to stay up at the top, then more power to them, but they have to EARN it.

The NCAA is so corrupt and filled with cronyism, just like our other parts of our government. If they really wanted to do something fair for our young men and women, they would setup something that allowed for schools to grow and build teams outside of their controlling walls. They cry wolf for every other kind of equal rights, but turn around and do the opposite on almost every occasion, unless it benefits the ruling class and big business somehow.

They call us the little Big Ten, why not make it official and allow for vertical mobility? Who would our sister FCS conference be? Missouri Valley Football Conf or Ohio Valley Conf?
09-25-2015 04:08 PM
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My grand plan for a new league is for the Missouri Valley to wake up and realize the value of FBS football and go to 18 or so by creating a best of MAC and Sun Belt conference.
09-25-2015 04:36 PM
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RE: Arkansas State Preview
(09-25-2015 03:07 PM)Terry Wrote:  
(09-25-2015 02:22 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  
(09-25-2015 12:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(09-24-2015 07:11 PM)Rocket A Wrote:  Rockets need to treat this like a conference game, what happened last year doesn't matter.

You guys are going to be expected Nationally to run through us and the rest of the MAC because you beat Arkansas and Iowa State. Its based off of little knowledge of any of the G5 in general, and the assumption that Iowa State and Arkansas are automatically better than the rest of us because they play in bigger leagues.

The reality is, You've got three or four teams left on your schedule that are probably better than Iowa State...and all of those teams have seen you before and know your team a lot more.

I've already seen comments like this all week...people wondering why Toledo is only 7 point favorites for this game...simply people who don't actually spend much time looking at the quality of the G5 in general.

The reality is we could beat you guys by 2 scores tomorrow and then you could still turn around and win the MAC comfortably. No one team is the same, no one game is the same.

Well said.

On a somewhat related topic--since we both struggle as G5 programs--I would love to see Arkansas State in the MAC.

What needs to happen is the schools that ARE serious about Division I FBS football like Toledo and Arkansas State need to form a real conference and let the pretenders like EMU (let's hide our stadium with tarps) drop down to FCS!!!!!!

I would love to have Arkansas State as a conference partner!!!!!!!
THEY GET IT!!!!!!!!!

This has been discussed on our board before. I think there is a strong desire at Arkansas State to play with more like minded programs, but the reality is, the MAC has about as many programs as the SBC that don't really care about football, and those SBC programs are far closer to Jonesboro than say an Eastern Michigan is.

The way I see it happening would be a few years down the road if the top MAC and SBC teams got left out of the Access Bowl bids a bunch despite having worthy teams because of conference perception,. I could then see a potential situation where the top MAC and SBC teams use a vessel like the Missouri Valley to form a new league that could challenge the AAC and MWC.

I do feel something will have to give eventually, because I have this strange feeling we're going to see worthy MAC and SBC opponents left out of the access bowls in the future because of the weakness at the bottom of both leagues.
09-26-2015 10:10 AM
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Serious question: Is this game a Blue-out or a Gold-out?
09-26-2015 12:17 PM
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(09-26-2015 12:17 PM)RocketOne Wrote:  Serious question: Is this game a Blue-out or a Gold-out?

Blue
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(09-26-2015 12:24 PM)NewMex RocketFan Wrote:  
(09-26-2015 12:17 PM)RocketOne Wrote:  Serious question: Is this game a Blue-out or a Gold-out?

Blue

Thanks!
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