(09-22-2015 11:56 AM)bluesox Wrote:  I don't know why leagues bother, let school's play whoever they want in the non-conference games.

It is something of a league interest.
1. Ole Miss' OOC schedule-strength can make or break Mississippi State's playoff chances in a given year. (Example chosen at random)
2. TV contracts do come into play.
3. You might want to guard against a "race to the bottom"--if Indiana is going bowling by playing MAC and Sun Belt teams, Purdue and Northwestern maybe have to follow suit, and suddenly you're wondering why attendance is down.

I know that in basketball leagues, conference offices are often pushing schools on scheduling, because it effects the whole conferences' RPI--it can be the difference between two bids and four, if you game the system the right way in the right year (MWC a few years ago, where everyone played a non-NCAA, RPI-neutral team as a bye game instead of an RPI-killing doormat).

(09-22-2015 11:29 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 11:04 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 10:53 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  I would imagine the ACC might do the same thing, as there are quite a few future games scheduled with Cincy, UConn, USF, and UCF.

The biggest part of the B1G's "1910" policy that the ACC could/should emulate is the "no-FCS" opponent rule. That would be a problem for Clemson, though, since they have a legislative mandate to play an in-state school (besides South Carolina) every year.

This year, the ACC will play 16 of its 56 OOC games against FCS opponents. That's way too many. The league could easily give Clemson a waiver, since they always have a stronger than average OOC schedule even with their FCS game.

I wonder if all the P5 conferences were to move in this direction whether they would also propose making FCS games a pre-season exhibition instead.

Hooray if so. I can see no reason for P5/FBS teams to play teams from an entirely lower classification.

In some cases, some FCS are good for fans for travel costs.
Would they make these schools a P5?

AAC:
Since Cincinnati and UConn.
East Carolina
USF
Memphis
Navy
UCF
Temple
Houston
Tulsa

Seems there is an agreement between Tulsa and Oklahoma since they play a lot like home and home.

C-USA:
Rice
Marshall
Southern Mississippi (grandfather because of history)

MAC:
Northern Illinois
Bowling Green
Central Michigan
Western Michigan
Toledo
Buffalo AAU
U. Mass.

MWC:
Boise State
Utah State/instate rivalry against Utah
Colorado State/instate rival for Colorado
Hawaii (they need to play the PAC 12 schools.)
Fresno State
San Diego State
UNR
Air Force (same for them like Army and Navy)

Sun Belt:
Arkansas State
Appalachian State (Big 10 does not want another Michigan losing to an App State anymore.)
Georgia Southern
La.-Lafayette

FCS schools might be thrust up to FBS.

Eastern Washington
Northern Arizona (Big Brothers will bailed their little brother out.)
Cal-Davis (Smaller version of the 4 California schools.)
Cal.-Poly
Sacramento State
Montana
Montana State
Liberty flashing their money around to be considered P5. Shoot, if they offered 50 million dollars to the Big 12 to join their conference? Would the Big 12 invite them? Lol.
Richmond (history)
Stony Brook (for a future Big 10 member so that they can help build them bigger to join.)
Villanova Yes, there is a history with them and the FBS.
James Madison (We want another James Madison beat Virginia Tech moment.)
Towson
Delaware (Shoot, why not have a game with Delaware Vs Michigan. How many interceptions by both sides will make?)
William & Mary (They play Virginia a lot.)
Florida A&M have almost upset Miami, florida a few years ago.)
Illinois State
Southern Illinois
Indiana State
North Dakota State
South Dakota State
Youngstown State
Northern Iowa
South Dakota
Jacksonville State
Fordham
McNeese State
Central Arkansas
Lamar
Chattanooga

(09-22-2015 12:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 11:29 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 11:04 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 10:53 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  I would imagine the ACC might do the same thing, as there are quite a few future games scheduled with Cincy, UConn, USF, and UCF.

The biggest part of the B1G's "1910" policy that the ACC could/should emulate is the "no-FCS" opponent rule. That would be a problem for Clemson, though, since they have a legislative mandate to play an in-state school (besides South Carolina) every year.

This year, the ACC will play 16 of its 56 OOC games against FCS opponents. That's way too many. The league could easily give Clemson a waiver, since they always have a stronger than average OOC schedule even with their FCS game.

I wonder if all the P5 conferences were to move in this direction whether they would also propose making FCS games a pre-season exhibition instead.

Hooray if so. I can see no reason for P5/FBS teams to play teams from an entirely lower classification.

In some cases, some FCS are good for fans for travel costs.
Would they make these schools a P5?

AAC:
Since Cincinnati and UConn.
East Carolina
USF
Memphis
Navy
UCF
Temple
Houston
Tulsa

Seems there is an agreement between Tulsa and Oklahoma since they play a lot like home and home.

C-USA:
Rice
Marshall
Southern Mississippi (grandfather because of history)

MAC:
Northern Illinois
Bowling Green
Central Michigan
Western Michigan
Toledo
Buffalo AAU
U. Mass.

MWC:
Boise State
Utah State/instate rivalry against Utah
Colorado State/instate rival for Colorado
Hawaii (they need to play the PAC 12 schools.)
Fresno State
San Diego State
UNR
Air Force (same for them like Army and Navy)

Sun Belt:
Arkansas State
Appalachian State (Big 10 does not want another Michigan losing to an App State anymore.)
Georgia Southern
La.-Lafayette

FCS schools might be thrust up to FBS.

Eastern Washington
Northern Arizona (Big Brothers will bailed their little brother out.)
Cal-Davis (Smaller version of the 4 California schools.)
Cal.-Poly
Sacramento State
Montana
Montana State
Liberty flashing their money around to be considered P5. Shoot, if they offered 50 million dollars to the Big 12 to join their conference? Would the Big 12 invite them? Lol.
Richmond (history)
Stony Brook (for a future Big 10 member so that they can help build them bigger to join.)
Villanova Yes, there is a history with them and the FBS.
James Madison (We want another James Madison beat Virginia Tech moment.)
Towson
Delaware (Shoot, why not have a game with Delaware Vs Michigan. How many interceptions by both sides will make?)
William & Mary (They play Virginia a lot.)
Florida A&M have almost upset Miami, florida a few years ago.)
Illinois State
Southern Illinois
Indiana State
North Dakota State
South Dakota State
Youngstown State
Northern Iowa
South Dakota
Jacksonville State
Fordham
McNeese State
Central Arkansas
Lamar
Chattanooga

It might interest you to know that all these schools do not get money every time you mention their name in this forum. If a million different fans proposed moving a school up in class, it might help their chances of getting an invite. However, when one fan mentions them a million times, it doesn't really help.

This little bit of info could save you a ton of time. Just sayin'.

(09-22-2015 12:42 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 12:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 11:29 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 11:04 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 10:53 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  I would imagine the ACC might do the same thing, as there are quite a few future games scheduled with Cincy, UConn, USF, and UCF.

The biggest part of the B1G's "1910" policy that the ACC could/should emulate is the "no-FCS" opponent rule. That would be a problem for Clemson, though, since they have a legislative mandate to play an in-state school (besides South Carolina) every year.

This year, the ACC will play 16 of its 56 OOC games against FCS opponents. That's way too many. The league could easily give Clemson a waiver, since they always have a stronger than average OOC schedule even with their FCS game.

I wonder if all the P5 conferences were to move in this direction whether they would also propose making FCS games a pre-season exhibition instead.

Hooray if so. I can see no reason for P5/FBS teams to play teams from an entirely lower classification.

In some cases, some FCS are good for fans for travel costs.
Would they make these schools a P5?

AAC:
Since Cincinnati and UConn.
East Carolina
USF
Memphis
Navy
UCF
Temple
Houston
Tulsa

Seems there is an agreement between Tulsa and Oklahoma since they play a lot like home and home.

C-USA:
Rice
Marshall
Southern Mississippi (grandfather because of history)

MAC:
Northern Illinois
Bowling Green
Central Michigan
Western Michigan
Toledo
Buffalo AAU
U. Mass.

MWC:
Boise State
Utah State/instate rivalry against Utah
Colorado State/instate rival for Colorado
Hawaii (they need to play the PAC 12 schools.)
Fresno State
San Diego State
UNR
Air Force (same for them like Army and Navy)

Sun Belt:
Arkansas State
Appalachian State (Big 10 does not want another Michigan losing to an App State anymore.)
Georgia Southern
La.-Lafayette

FCS schools might be thrust up to FBS.

Eastern Washington
Northern Arizona (Big Brothers will bailed their little brother out.)
Cal-Davis (Smaller version of the 4 California schools.)
Cal.-Poly
Sacramento State
Montana
Montana State
Liberty flashing their money around to be considered P5. Shoot, if they offered 50 million dollars to the Big 12 to join their conference? Would the Big 12 invite them? Lol.
Richmond (history)
Stony Brook (for a future Big 10 member so that they can help build them bigger to join.)
Villanova Yes, there is a history with them and the FBS.
James Madison (We want another James Madison beat Virginia Tech moment.)
Towson
Delaware (Shoot, why not have a game with Delaware Vs Michigan. How many interceptions by both sides will make?)
William & Mary (They play Virginia a lot.)
Florida A&M have almost upset Miami, florida a few years ago.)
Illinois State
Southern Illinois
Indiana State
North Dakota State
South Dakota State
Youngstown State
Northern Iowa
South Dakota
Jacksonville State
Fordham
McNeese State
Central Arkansas
Lamar
Chattanooga

It might interest you to know that all these schools do not get money every time you mention their name in this forum. If a million different fans proposed moving a school up in class, it might help their chances of getting an invite. However, when one fan mentions them a million times, it doesn't really help.

This little bit of info could save you a ton of time. Just sayin'.

Just pointing out that these schools are better for SoS better than Army and UConn.

(09-22-2015 12:42 PM)ken d Wrote:  It might interest you to know that all these schools do not get money every time you mention their name in this forum. If a million different fans proposed moving a school up in class, it might help their chances of getting an invite. However, when one fan mentions them a million times, it doesn't really help.

This little bit of info could save you a ton of time. Just sayin'.

Ouch

(09-22-2015 12:47 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 12:42 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 12:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 11:29 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 11:04 AM)ken d Wrote:  The biggest part of the B1G's "1910" policy that the ACC could/should emulate is the "no-FCS" opponent rule. That would be a problem for Clemson, though, since they have a legislative mandate to play an in-state school (besides South Carolina) every year.

This year, the ACC will play 16 of its 56 OOC games against FCS opponents. That's way too many. The league could easily give Clemson a waiver, since they always have a stronger than average OOC schedule even with their FCS game.

I wonder if all the P5 conferences were to move in this direction whether they would also propose making FCS games a pre-season exhibition instead.

Hooray if so. I can see no reason for P5/FBS teams to play teams from an entirely lower classification.

In some cases, some FCS are good for fans for travel costs.
Would they make these schools a P5?

AAC:
Since Cincinnati and UConn.
East Carolina
USF
Memphis
Navy
UCF
Temple
Houston
Tulsa

Seems there is an agreement between Tulsa and Oklahoma since they play a lot like home and home.

C-USA:
Rice
Marshall
Southern Mississippi (grandfather because of history)

MAC:
Northern Illinois
Bowling Green
Central Michigan
Western Michigan
Toledo
Buffalo AAU
U. Mass.

MWC:
Boise State
Utah State/instate rivalry against Utah
Colorado State/instate rival for Colorado
Hawaii (they need to play the PAC 12 schools.)
Fresno State
San Diego State
UNR
Air Force (same for them like Army and Navy)

Sun Belt:
Arkansas State
Appalachian State (Big 10 does not want another Michigan losing to an App State anymore.)
Georgia Southern
La.-Lafayette

FCS schools might be thrust up to FBS.

Eastern Washington
Northern Arizona (Big Brothers will bailed their little brother out.)
Cal-Davis (Smaller version of the 4 California schools.)
Cal.-Poly
Sacramento State
Montana
Montana State
Liberty flashing their money around to be considered P5. Shoot, if they offered 50 million dollars to the Big 12 to join their conference? Would the Big 12 invite them? Lol.
Richmond (history)
Stony Brook (for a future Big 10 member so that they can help build them bigger to join.)
Villanova Yes, there is a history with them and the FBS.
James Madison (We want another James Madison beat Virginia Tech moment.)
Towson
Delaware (Shoot, why not have a game with Delaware Vs Michigan. How many interceptions by both sides will make?)
William & Mary (They play Virginia a lot.)
Florida A&M have almost upset Miami, florida a few years ago.)
Illinois State
Southern Illinois
Indiana State
North Dakota State
South Dakota State
Youngstown State
Northern Iowa
South Dakota
Jacksonville State
Fordham
McNeese State
Central Arkansas
Lamar
Chattanooga

It might interest you to know that all these schools do not get money every time you mention their name in this forum. If a million different fans proposed moving a school up in class, it might help their chances of getting an invite. However, when one fan mentions them a million times, it doesn't really help.

This little bit of info could save you a ton of time. Just sayin'.

Just pointing out that these schools are better for SoS better than Army and UConn.

Perhaps you should email Delaney to let him know.

(09-22-2015 12:21 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 11:56 AM)bluesox Wrote:  I don't know why leagues bother, let school's play whoever they want in the non-conference games.

It is something of a league interest.
1. Ole Miss' OOC schedule-strength can make or break Mississippi State's playoff chances in a given year. (Example chosen at random)
2. TV contracts do come into play.
3. You might want to guard against a "race to the bottom"--if Indiana is going bowling by playing MAC and Sun Belt teams, Purdue and Northwestern maybe have to follow suit, and suddenly you're wondering why attendance is down.

I know that in basketball leagues, conference offices are often pushing schools on scheduling, because it effects the whole conferences' RPI--it can be the difference between two bids and four, if you game the system the right way in the right year (MWC a few years ago, where everyone played a non-NCAA, RPI-neutral team as a bye game instead of an RPI-killing doormat).

That is why some of the western Big 10 should continue playing the Dakota schools, Northern Iowa and Missouri State. You could still get fans to come that way. Nebraska with Colorado State is a good example of fans could travel easier to both cities.

(09-22-2015 12:42 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 12:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 11:29 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 11:04 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 10:53 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  I would imagine the ACC might do the same thing, as there are quite a few future games scheduled with Cincy, UConn, USF, and UCF.

The biggest part of the B1G's "1910" policy that the ACC could/should emulate is the "no-FCS" opponent rule. That would be a problem for Clemson, though, since they have a legislative mandate to play an in-state school (besides South Carolina) every year.

This year, the ACC will play 16 of its 56 OOC games against FCS opponents. That's way too many. The league could easily give Clemson a waiver, since they always have a stronger than average OOC schedule even with their FCS game.

I wonder if all the P5 conferences were to move in this direction whether they would also propose making FCS games a pre-season exhibition instead.

Hooray if so. I can see no reason for P5/FBS teams to play teams from an entirely lower classification.

In some cases, some FCS are good for fans for travel costs.
Would they make these schools a P5?

AAC:
Since Cincinnati and UConn.
East Carolina
USF
Memphis
Navy
UCF
Temple
Houston
Tulsa

Seems there is an agreement between Tulsa and Oklahoma since they play a lot like home and home.

C-USA:
Rice
Marshall
Southern Mississippi (grandfather because of history)

MAC:
Northern Illinois
Bowling Green
Central Michigan
Western Michigan
Toledo
Buffalo AAU
U. Mass.

MWC:
Boise State
Utah State/instate rivalry against Utah
Colorado State/instate rival for Colorado
Hawaii (they need to play the PAC 12 schools.)
Fresno State
San Diego State
UNR
Air Force (same for them like Army and Navy)

Sun Belt:
Arkansas State
Appalachian State (Big 10 does not want another Michigan losing to an App State anymore.)
Georgia Southern
La.-Lafayette

FCS schools might be thrust up to FBS.

Eastern Washington
Northern Arizona (Big Brothers will bailed their little brother out.)
Cal-Davis (Smaller version of the 4 California schools.)
Cal.-Poly
Sacramento State
Montana
Montana State
Liberty flashing their money around to be considered P5. Shoot, if they offered 50 million dollars to the Big 12 to join their conference? Would the Big 12 invite them? Lol.
Richmond (history)
Stony Brook (for a future Big 10 member so that they can help build them bigger to join.)
Villanova Yes, there is a history with them and the FBS.
James Madison (We want another James Madison beat Virginia Tech moment.)
Towson
Delaware (Shoot, why not have a game with Delaware Vs Michigan. How many interceptions by both sides will make?)
William & Mary (They play Virginia a lot.)
Florida A&M have almost upset Miami, florida a few years ago.)
Illinois State
Southern Illinois
Indiana State
North Dakota State
South Dakota State
Youngstown State
Northern Iowa
South Dakota
Jacksonville State
Fordham
McNeese State
Central Arkansas
Lamar
Chattanooga

It might interest you to know that all these schools do not get money every time you mention their name in this forum. If a million different fans proposed moving a school up in class, it might help their chances of getting an invite. However, when one fan mentions them a million times, it doesn't really help.

This little bit of info could save you a ton of time. Just sayin'.

But he mentioned my school so it's K

It's funny how the B1G allowing its bottom dwellers to count a AAC game as a p-5 game hs led the UCOnn fans to believe they are getting a B1G invite soon.

They just don't' want to inconvenience low level programs like Indiana by forcing them to change the schedule.

They are not getting ready to add Cinci, Army, Navy, and UConn.

(09-22-2015 08:06 PM)Okielite Wrote:  It's funny how the B1G allowing its bottom dwellers to count a AAC game as a p-5 game hs led the UCOnn fans to believe they are getting a B1G invite soon.

They just don't' want to inconvenience low level programs like Indiana by forcing them to change the schedule.

They are not getting ready to add Cinci, Army, Navy, and UConn.

Again making things up to fit your agenda. No UCONN fans here said a Big Ten invite was coming based on this announcement. What we did say is that we'll have an easier time getting Big Ten schools to schedule home and home series.

(09-22-2015 08:11 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 08:06 PM)Okielite Wrote:  It's funny how the B1G allowing its bottom dwellers to count a AAC game as a p-5 game hs led the UCOnn fans to believe they are getting a B1G invite soon.

They just don't' want to inconvenience low level programs like Indiana by forcing them to change the schedule.

They are not getting ready to add Cinci, Army, Navy, and UConn.

Again making things up to fit your agenda. No UCONN fans here said a Big Ten invite was coming based on this announcement. What we did say is that we'll have an easier time getting Big Ten schools to schedule home and home series.

Seems like it's more than that. UConn fans are treating this as some kind of endorsement by the B1G that you are better than other G5, that the B1G is acknowledging you in some special way.

Here's a key quote:

"Rudner added the league would evaluate any other non-Power 5 schools -- programs in the AAC, Conference USA, Mid-American, Mountain West and Sun Belt leagues -- brought up by a Big Ten school and decide whether they would count as Power 5 opponents based on their RPI rankings in recent years and other factors."

So as far as UConn being 'special' is concerned, it bears noting that this was an issue driven by a member school's petition, so we don't know the B1G attitude towards other G5 schools.

Also, there IS in fact a merit component here, RPI, but also a mention of "other factors". Not clear whether this is a new standard that will be used going forward or whether it was used to make the decisions about Cincy and UConn. I bet the former, as it is hard to imagine Army meeting an RPI standard. Currently, Cincy has an RPI of 50, which is within the P5 realm, but UConn's is 88, which is not.

It will be interesting to see how that plays out.

(09-22-2015 08:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 08:11 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 08:06 PM)Okielite Wrote:  It's funny how the B1G allowing its bottom dwellers to count a AAC game as a p-5 game hs led the UCOnn fans to believe they are getting a B1G invite soon.

They just don't' want to inconvenience low level programs like Indiana by forcing them to change the schedule.

They are not getting ready to add Cinci, Army, Navy, and UConn.

Again making things up to fit your agenda. No UCONN fans here said a Big Ten invite was coming based on this announcement. What we did say is that we'll have an easier time getting Big Ten schools to schedule home and home series.

Seems like it's more than that. UConn fans are treating this as some kind of endorsement by the B1G that you are better than other G5, that the B1G is acknowledging you in some special way.

Here's a key quote:

"Rudner added the league would evaluate any other non-Power 5 schools -- programs in the AAC, Conference USA, Mid-American, Mountain West and Sun Belt leagues -- brought up by a Big Ten school and decide whether they would count as Power 5 opponents based on their RPI rankings in recent years and other factors."

So as far as UConn being 'special' is concerned, it bears noting that this was an issue driven by a member school's petition, so we don't know the B1G attitude towards other G5 schools.

Also, there IS in fact a merit component here, RPI, but also a mention of "other factors". It will be interesting to see how that plays out. Currently, Cincy has an RPI of 50, which is within the P5 realm, but UConn's is 88, which is not.

3 G5 conference schools (as of right now) were publicly noted as fitting the criteria. UCONN fans are happy to be included, especially given the performance in recent years. It seems as though there may be other criteria also involved. We do know that at least one school was denied and it was also said that not all schools in the AAC would qualify...whatever that means...

We'll see what happens in the future. These are the Big Ten schools that are missing a P5 or a current acceptable substitute:

Illinois:

2017 - Ball State, Western Kentucky, USF
2018 - USF, Western Illinois, Kent State

Maryland:

2016 - FIU, UCF, Howard

Minnesota:

2018 - Fresno State, New Mexico State, Miami (OH)

Wisconsin:

2019 - USF, Central Michigan, North Texas

(09-22-2015 08:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 08:11 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 08:06 PM)Okielite Wrote:  It's funny how the B1G allowing its bottom dwellers to count a AAC game as a p-5 game hs led the UCOnn fans to believe they are getting a B1G invite soon.

They just don't' want to inconvenience low level programs like Indiana by forcing them to change the schedule.

They are not getting ready to add Cinci, Army, Navy, and UConn.

Again making things up to fit your agenda. No UCONN fans here said a Big Ten invite was coming based on this announcement. What we did say is that we'll have an easier time getting Big Ten schools to schedule home and home series.

Seems like it's more than that. UConn fans are treating this as some kind of endorsement by the B1G that you are better than other G5, that the B1G is acknowledging you in some special way.

Here's a key quote:

"Rudner added the league would evaluate any other non-Power 5 schools -- programs in the AAC, Conference USA, Mid-American, Mountain West and Sun Belt leagues -- brought up by a Big Ten school and decide whether they would count as Power 5 opponents based on their RPI rankings in recent years and other factors."

So as far as UConn being 'special' is concerned, it bears noting that this was an issue driven by a member school's petition, so we don't know the B1G attitude towards other G5 schools.

Also, there IS in fact a merit component here, RPI, but also a mention of "other factors". Not clear whether this is a new standard that will be used going forward or whether it was used to make the decisions about Cincy and UConn. I bet the former, as it is hard to imagine Army meeting an RPI standard. Currently, Cincy has an RPI of 50, which is within the P5 realm, but UConn's is 88, which is not.

It will be interesting to see how that plays out.

I have a hard time believing that UConn has a decent RPI average the last 5 years.

Records
2104 2-10
2013 3-9
2012 5-7
2011 5-7
2010 8-5

No way that gets you any status as a p-5 level program. You are struggling in the AAC. I could see schools like UCF getting a better status based on results but sure as heck not UConn. Let's be real. There are several g-5 programs like Boise who have earned that right to be a p-5 level opponent.

Obviously, "other factors" are also very important...

Army:

2014: 4-8
2013: 3-9
2012: 2-10
2011: 3-9
2010 7-6

If RPI was the be-all, end-all for P5 inclusion, the make-up of the P5 and G5 would not be what it is today.

(09-22-2015 08:11 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 08:06 PM)Okielite Wrote:  It's funny how the B1G allowing its bottom dwellers to count a AAC game as a p-5 game hs led the UCOnn fans to believe they are getting a B1G invite soon.

They just don't' want to inconvenience low level programs like Indiana by forcing them to change the schedule.

They are not getting ready to add Cinci, Army, Navy, and UConn.

Again making things up to fit your agenda. No UCONN fans here said a Big Ten invite was coming based on this announcement. What we did say is that we'll have an easier time getting Big Ten schools to schedule home and home series.

Not at all. Why are you so paranoid? Seriously?

I can provide a link but I suspect I'm not supposed to link a competitor. It's been said plenty of times. Here are some examples from you fanbase.

Huge news for us, from a perception standpoint.

If the B1G considers our football team to be P5-worthy, then I wouldn't think there's much standing between us and a B1G invite, right?

You've been right on a couple of really important things on this board (or, at least, the basketball board), so I allow myself to get a little more excited about what I'm perceiving, in a couple of posts, as optimism from you. Don't know if that's coming from anything you've heard, or you've just been generally bull-ish on UConn to the B1G, but I don't recall it, personally, before the last few posts I've been reading

If UConn cut a deal to play Ohio St at MetLife or Gillette, it would absolutely count. Hopefully, count as a league game, too.

Nothing but good news for UConn. The B1G must have some smart guys working in their offices that remember that UConn held its own as a BCS member and are simply caught in a funk from 1 bad hire and being stuck in AAC purgatory. Put UConn in a P5 conference and we'll be competitive again. No question about that.

but the general vibe I get is the B1G schools like us a lot.

Thats great to hear. Our FB program is finally coming around and we are already competitive today in the B1G. I wish we already moved on to the B1G already so we can start planning for stadium expansion etc. I am confident UCONN can carry New England and part of NYC for the B1G.


So entertaining.

(09-22-2015 09:12 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Obviously, "other factors" are also very important...

Army:

2014: 4-8
2013: 3-9
2012: 2-10
2011: 3-9
2010 7-6

Army and Navy have obvious differences and reasons beyond performance why the B1G would count them as p-5 games.

Not sure there is a football statistic that would put Uconn above other g-5 programs. Certainly not performance, attendance, or TV ratings.

(09-22-2015 09:15 PM)Okielite Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 08:11 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 08:06 PM)Okielite Wrote:  It's funny how the B1G allowing its bottom dwellers to count a AAC game as a p-5 game hs led the UCOnn fans to believe they are getting a B1G invite soon.

They just don't' want to inconvenience low level programs like Indiana by forcing them to change the schedule.

They are not getting ready to add Cinci, Army, Navy, and UConn.

Again making things up to fit your agenda. No UCONN fans here said a Big Ten invite was coming based on this announcement. What we did say is that we'll have an easier time getting Big Ten schools to schedule home and home series.

Not at all. Why are you so paranoid? Seriously?

I can provide a link but I suspect I'm not supposed to link a competitor. It's been said plenty of times. Here are some examples from you fanbase.

Huge news for us, from a perception standpoint.

If the B1G considers our football team to be P5-worthy, then I wouldn't think there's much standing between us and a B1G invite, right?

You've been right on a couple of really important things on this board (or, at least, the basketball board), so I allow myself to get a little more excited about what I'm perceiving, in a couple of posts, as optimism from you. Don't know if that's coming from anything you've heard, or you've just been generally bull-ish on UConn to the B1G, but I don't recall it, personally, before the last few posts I've been reading

If UConn cut a deal to play Ohio St at MetLife or Gillette, it would absolutely count. Hopefully, count as a league game, too.

Nothing but good news for UConn. The B1G must have some smart guys working in their offices that remember that UConn held its own as a BCS member and are simply caught in a funk from 1 bad hire and being stuck in AAC purgatory. Put UConn in a P5 conference and we'll be competitive again. No question about that.

but the general vibe I get is the B1G schools like us a lot.

Thats great to hear. Our FB program is finally coming around and we are already competitive today in the B1G. I wish we already moved on to the B1G already so we can start planning for stadium expansion etc. I am confident UCONN can carry New England and part of NYC for the B1G.


So entertaining.

Can you read? I said no UCONN fans on this board were saying anything about a Big Ten invite. Your quotes are all from the Boneyard, not here. If you have an issue with those posts then you should take your criticism there.

(09-22-2015 09:17 PM)Okielite Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 09:12 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Obviously, "other factors" are also very important...

Army:

2014: 4-8
2013: 3-9
2012: 2-10
2011: 3-9
2010 7-6

Army and Navy have obvious differences and reasons beyond performance why the B1G would count them as p-5 games.

Not sure there is a football statistic that would put Uconn above other g-5 programs. Certainly not performance, attendance, or TV ratings.

Where is Air Force then? The truth of the matter is that you don't know what other criteria is being used. The Big Ten obviously likes something about UCONN.

(09-22-2015 09:22 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 09:17 PM)Okielite Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 09:12 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Obviously, "other factors" are also very important...

Army:

2014: 4-8
2013: 3-9
2012: 2-10
2011: 3-9
2010 7-6

Army and Navy have obvious differences and reasons beyond performance why the B1G would count them as p-5 games.

Not sure there is a football statistic that would put Uconn above other g-5 programs. Certainly not performance, attendance, or TV ratings.

Where is Air Force then? The truth of the matter is that you don't know what other criteria is being used.

Colorado. Nowhere near the B1G footprint and not a team who historically played a lot of B1G schools. Not a strategic region for them.

Air Force is likely not on any B1G NC schedules, thus why they are not mentioned.

And neither do you.

next?

(09-22-2015 09:20 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 09:15 PM)Okielite Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 08:11 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 08:06 PM)Okielite Wrote:  It's funny how the B1G allowing its bottom dwellers to count a AAC game as a p-5 game hs led the UCOnn fans to believe they are getting a B1G invite soon.

They just don't' want to inconvenience low level programs like Indiana by forcing them to change the schedule.

They are not getting ready to add Cinci, Army, Navy, and UConn.

Again making things up to fit your agenda. No UCONN fans here said a Big Ten invite was coming based on this announcement. What we did say is that we'll have an easier time getting Big Ten schools to schedule home and home series.

Not at all. Why are you so paranoid? Seriously?

I can provide a link but I suspect I'm not supposed to link a competitor. It's been said plenty of times. Here are some examples from you fanbase.

Huge news for us, from a perception standpoint.

If the B1G considers our football team to be P5-worthy, then I wouldn't think there's much standing between us and a B1G invite, right?

You've been right on a couple of really important things on this board (or, at least, the basketball board), so I allow myself to get a little more excited about what I'm perceiving, in a couple of posts, as optimism from you. Don't know if that's coming from anything you've heard, or you've just been generally bull-ish on UConn to the B1G, but I don't recall it, personally, before the last few posts I've been reading

If UConn cut a deal to play Ohio St at MetLife or Gillette, it would absolutely count. Hopefully, count as a league game, too.

Nothing but good news for UConn. The B1G must have some smart guys working in their offices that remember that UConn held its own as a BCS member and are simply caught in a funk from 1 bad hire and being stuck in AAC purgatory. Put UConn in a P5 conference and we'll be competitive again. No question about that.

but the general vibe I get is the B1G schools like us a lot.

Thats great to hear. Our FB program is finally coming around and we are already competitive today in the B1G. I wish we already moved on to the B1G already so we can start planning for stadium expansion etc. I am confident UCONN can carry New England and part of NYC for the B1G.


So entertaining.

Can you read? I said no UCONN fans on this board were saying anything about a Big Ten invite. Your quotes are all from the Boneyard, not here. If you have an issue with those posts then you should take your criticism there.

Can you read? I never said there were fans on this board saying that. You said that. Then I gave some examples of UConn fans saying this meant the B1G invite was coming from another board. LAffin.

Get it straight son. Or go whine at the B Y with the rest of em.