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Week 4 vs App State
Looking forward to this one. Not going to make it to the game but Ill be watching from Charlotte among the hated black and gold.

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09-22-2015 07:59 AM
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(09-22-2015 07:59 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  Looking forward to this one. Not going to make it to the game but Ill be watching from Charlotte among the hated black and gold.

ODU - 28
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I'm with you on this one. I think the issue of dropped passes can be fixed and I am optomistic about this one. Ill go...
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09-22-2015 08:21 AM
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I am optimistically hoping for a blowout win. We have not had one of those in a while.
09-22-2015 09:11 AM
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RE: Week 4 vs App State
It is difficult to get a read on the 2015 Mountaineers as their two games have been against one of the worst teams in the country and one of the best.

The App State offense is similar to our's in that they have a grinding running game (Cox is the man) with a respectable 202 yards rushing vs Clemson; and short passing with a good Taylor Lamb at the helm. He is not a dual threat but can successfully tuck and run when necessary.
I believe we can stop them if our defense isn't forced to stay on the field for an excessive amount of time.

On defense App is better vs the rush (140 yds vs Clemson), but even so, held Clemson to a respectable 252 yards passing.
Near the end of the NC State game we went back to our vintage Spread passing attack and had some success, We will need to do that vs App.

I am not sure what "pull out all the stops" meant vs NC State, but whatever it was, I didn't see it, at all. SB is a good QB, and will get better as our receivers stop dropping the ball. SB can run, but he looked very awkward on that 1 yd run for the first down.
We have an excellent cadre of running backs now. Maybe it is time to expand our running scheme above and beyond just the inside handoff?

Our OL will not be over-matched in this game, and our DL should get penetration.

APP SB Nation preview:
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...ule-roster

APP Pre-Season depth chart:
http://www.appstatesports.com/ViewArticl...=209996808

APP 2015 Stats:
http://www.appstatesports.com/ViewArticl...=209996808


I believe that the coaches saw what I saw near the end of the NC State game, and we emphasize our short passing game keeping the Mountaineer D honest with Lawry and the run.

ODU 31 App 24, but we seriously could score more if our passing game clicks like I think it will.
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Weather is going to be horrible. The winner will be which offensive line can impose their will on the defensive line and open up a running game. That does not look good for us. I am hoping to see improvement but not optimistic. You can't fix foot speed in 1 week.
09-22-2015 09:53 AM
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App State kind of reminds me of Georgia Southern. We need to switch things up and stop being so one dimenisonal, because I hope BW saw what happens when you are one dimensional.

Based on how we have played, I will say:

ODU 27
Crap State 21

The weather will be a concern and I know they will drop balls again.
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(09-22-2015 09:53 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  Weather is going to be horrible. The winner will be which offensive line can impose their will on the defensive line and open up a running game. That does not look good for us. I am hoping to see improvement but not optimistic. You can't fix foot speed in 1 week.

Wow, 90% chance of rain Fri/Sat/Sun with 24 mph wind on Sat. Not very conducive to a passing game. Let's hope the weather people are as wrong about this as they usually are.
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(09-22-2015 09:53 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  Weather is going to be horrible. The winner will be which offensive line can impose their will on the defensive line and open up a running game. That does not look good for us. I am hoping to see improvement but not optimistic. You can't fix foot speed in 1 week.

Yeoww. I just looked at that. That of course could change everything, likely NOT in our favor.
09-22-2015 10:04 AM
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(09-22-2015 10:03 AM)ODU90 Wrote:  
(09-22-2015 09:53 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  Weather is going to be horrible. The winner will be which offensive line can impose their will on the defensive line and open up a running game. That does not look good for us. I am hoping to see improvement but not optimistic. You can't fix foot speed in 1 week.

Wow, 90% chance of rain Fri/Sat/Sun with 24 mph wind on Sat. Not very conducive to a passing game. Let's hope the weather people are as wrong about this as they usually are.

Looks like they are calling for an inch of rain on Friday and about 1.5 - 2 inches of rain Saturday. This game will come down to who can run the ball better. I'm not convinced our run defense is better the their run defense, but other then that, these two teams look identical. I'd expect a low scoring game due to rain and clock management from running the ball with a final score of 20-17 (not calling winner but that will be the score).
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wow, that much rain and wind going to make this a real ugly, turnover kind of game. No offense to you guys, but on a dry field I really believe our defensive line would dominate the line of scrimmage, and you guys would have a hard time moving the ball, but a sloppy field is the great equalizer, we both have the running backs that can pound the ball, and we both throw the ball well enough that we can complete some short to medium passes, but, if the weather is going to be horrible than the punters might decide this game, I just don't think either team is going to have too many 75-80 yd drives, whoever wins the battle of the field position, and keeps the turnovers to a minimum will have a huge advantage in this game.
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RE: Week 4 vs App State
Just curious bc I don't know much about App State, but why do you think they would dominate vs. a much bigger and stronger OL?
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(09-22-2015 12:42 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Just curious bc I don't know much about App State, but why do you think they would dominate vs. a much bigger and stronger OL?

Our offensive line has had one really good half of football this season. Other than that, they have been really hit or miss even against an FCS team.
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(09-22-2015 09:11 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  I am optimistically hoping for a blowout win. We have not had one of those in a while.

Hell I would love to have shutout!!! We have never had one of them 04-rock
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(09-22-2015 01:35 PM)odufansam Wrote:  
(09-22-2015 12:42 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Just curious bc I don't know much about App State, but why do you think they would dominate vs. a much bigger and stronger OL?

Our offensive line has had one really good half of football this season. Other than that, they have been really hit or miss even against an FCS team.

Its pretty tough to have the nations leading rusher after 2 games and convince me that the OL hasn't played well.

Norfolk State did nothing against our OL.
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the reason for optimism for the defensive line, and the overall defense, is we had the best defense in the SBC last year, and it looks like it will be one of the best if not the best in the SBC this year, almost everyone came back, and now we have depth at almost every position. But the real secret is our defensive coordinator, Nate Woody, came over from Wofford 2 years ago, and now he has the unit playing at a very high level, really knows what he is doing, we don't expect him to be with us much longer, it will not be long before a big time P5 school offers him a job, its going to be a sad day when he leaves, we probably never get a better coach than him.
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Someone may have gotten their hands on some tape of App's #49 vs. Clemson's offensive line.

I don't think either team wants to use tape from the Howard or Norfolk St. game to justify what either will do this Saturday. We may not have the line play of NCSU, but it's likely closer to them than Norfolk St.
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I watched the first half of the university that's high above the mountains and going places vs Clemson game.

Sure they had several giveaways against the Tigers, but it didn't look like they were going to light up the scoreboard even if they didn't commit those turnovers.

ODU 28
ASU 17
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(09-22-2015 09:42 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  It is difficult to get a read on the 2015 Mountaineers as their two games have been against one of the worst teams in the country and one of the best.

The App State offense is similar to our's in that they have a grinding running game (Cox is the man) with a respectable 202 yards rushing vs Clemson; and short passing with a good Taylor Lamb at the helm. He is not a dual threat but can successfully tuck and run when necessary.
I believe we can stop them if our defense isn't forced to stay on the field for an excessive amount of time.

On defense App is better vs the rush (140 yds vs Clemson), but even so, held Clemson to a respectable 252 yards passing.
Near the end of the NC State game we went back to our vintage Spread passing attack and had some success, We will need to do that vs App.

I am not sure what "pull out all the stops" meant vs NC State, but whatever it was, I didn't see it, at all. SB is a good QB, and will get








better as our receivers stop dropping the ball. SB can run, but he looked very awkward on that 1 yd run for the first down.
We have an excellent cadre of running backs now. Maybe it is time to expand our running scheme above and beyond just the inside handoff?

Our OL will not be over-matched in this game, and our DL should get penetration.

APP SB Nation preview:
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...ule-roster

APP Pre-Season depth chart:
http://www.appstatesports.com/ViewArticl...=209996808

APP 2015 Stats:
http://www.appstatesports.com/ViewArticl...=209996808


I believe that the coaches saw what I saw near the end of the NC State game, and we emphasize our short passing game keeping the Mountaineer D honest with Lawry and the run.

ODU 31 App 24, but we seriously could score more if our passing game clicks like I think it will.

It always amazes me that this team has historically been so high scoring with one of the most predictable, vanilla offenses I've ever seen. I'm right there with you on this one. I kept waiting for BW to show some kind of new look and it simply never happened. In the Norfolk St game we saw Paschal lined up in the backfield. What happened to that?? Couldn't SB have used some more blocking? or at least give the defense another player to watch? I am obviously not a coach, so if someone has some insight on this let's hear it.

ODU 21 App State 17 in a game decided by virtue of home field advantage.
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(09-22-2015 12:29 PM)moehler Wrote:  wow, that much rain and wind going to make this a real ugly, turnover kind of game. No offense to you guys, but on a dry field I really believe our defensive line would dominate the line of scrimmage, and you guys would have a hard time moving the ball, but a sloppy field is the great equalizer, we both have the running backs that can pound the ball, and we both throw the ball well enough that we can complete some short to medium passes, but, if the weather is going to be horrible than the punters might decide this game, I just don't think either team is going to have too many 75-80 yd drives, whoever wins the battle of the field position, and keeps the turnovers to a minimum will have a huge advantage in this game.

Calm down. You guys are not NC State, I doubt your boys have that kind of stopping power and speed on defense. Keep in mind this will be our second time this season playing in sucky weather, so they know the characteristics of the field while it's wet, giving us what I see is a slight advantage. I can tell you now, yall will have a hard time throwing the ball, as NC State came in with 84% completions and left with like 60. The ground game is a different story. The last teams we played in the rain at home on wet turf, we completely shut them down offensively, caused several turnovers and they only scored three offensive points each.
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