I think our last game showed we are not going to have success offensively against the top power 5 schools by trying to ground and pound them. Unfortunately, we don't have Michael Turner on this year's team. I love Bougie but he's not Michael Turner. I'm afraid if we employ the same offensive strategy against BC we'll suffer the same fate as last week. I don't think BC will have to commit an extra defender to the line of scrimmage and we can't have our receivers running a simple run to a spot and stop patterns that are so easy to diagnose. BC will learn a lot from our last tape. Again, we really need to get the ball quickly to our playmakers: Golladay, TLL, Turner, Brescacin, Beebee, and our TEs. I was disappointed that our TEs were only targeted once last game -- bubble to Maxwell. We know how successful the bubbles were... Why can't we use the TEs to give our QB an easy target over the middle like so many other teams do? Max and Wimann are big targets, run well and catch well. I'd like to see our offensive coaches come up with creative ways to get the ball quickly to our playmakers. Give Hare a chance to get in a rhythm and have a lot of success. And practice our middle screens. If it's more of the same from last week, I'm afraid we will come up short against BC.

(09-21-2015 05:02 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  I think our last game showed we are not going to have success offensively against the top power 5 schools by trying to ground and pound them. Unfortunately, we don't have Michael Turner on this year's team. I love Bougie but he's not Michael Turner. I'm afraid if we employ the same offensive strategy against BC we'll suffer the same fate as last week. I don't think BC will have to commit an extra defender to the line of scrimmage and we can't have our receivers running a simple run to a spot and stop patterns that are so easy to diagnose. BC will learn a lot from our last tape. Again, we really need to get the ball quickly to our playmakers: Golladay, TLL, Turner, Brescacin, Beebee, and our TEs. I was disappointed that our TEs were only targeted once last game -- bubble to Maxwell. We know how successful the bubbles were... Why can't we use the TEs to give our QB an easy target over the middle like so many other teams do? Max and Wimann are big targets, run well and catch well. I'd like to see our offensive coaches come up with creative ways to get the ball quickly to our playmakers. Give Hare a chance to get in a rhythm and have a lot of success. And practice our middle screens. If it's more of the same from last week, I'm afraid we will come up short against BC.

With all due respect, I think we were actually quite good in the running game given the size and speed of OSU's defense and us not being 100% on our O-Line. If you watch the game again you'll see that ACRB was falling forward the whole time while gaining 3-5 yards each time. Our problem against OSU was we had zero time to throw the ball, or get in the hands of our playmakers. The bubble screens were not working because OSU is just too fast, and we didn't have time to throw even quick slants. The only time we got the ball to a playmaker was on a jet sweep. I don't think BC has the same amount of playmakers as OSU does on defense, and they have a considerably smaller front line. I think we will have time to throw the ball this game, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't feed ACRB up the middle, he was very successful against OSU and gave us a lot of opportunities to have short third down attempts. I would except more of the same against BC, and also more time to throw which will come in handy.

ACRB ran his ass off on Saturday. Was hands down the best player on offense.

(09-21-2015 05:15 PM)7 Wrote:  ACRB ran his ass off on Saturday. Was hands down the best player on offense.

haha yes, another good way to put it.

(09-21-2015 05:15 PM)7 Wrote:  ACRB ran his ass off on Saturday. Was hands down the best player on offense.

^This. Positive yardage from all but one drive (that I remember). Way more than I expected, considering how worried I was about our running game over the last two weeks.

Our guys played very hard but we had zero explosion plays and we were not going to get impact plays from the running game. When Michael Turner beat Bama he ran for 166 yards. i understand they were not ranked No. 1 but obviously they had the size and strength comparable to a good Power 5 school. I think our best bet against BC is to give Hare a chance to get the ball to our weapons. Hare never got a chance to develop any rhythm. He completed three passes to start the second half drive and I was thinking "here we go!" But then we ran three straight times and punted. Look, if Bougie runs over BC I'd be ecstatic but I don't see it. I still think Hare is our best player and we should let our best player decide our toughest games. Fix the roll outs, the middle screens, and get the ball to our biggest weapons. Bougie is a nice player but he's not the weapon Golladay, TLL, or Turner are from where I see it.

(09-21-2015 05:30 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Our guys played very hard but we had zero explosion plays and we were not going to get impact plays from the running game. When Michael Turner beat Bama he ran for 166 yards. i understand they were not ranked No. 1 but obviously they had the size and strength comparable to a good Power 5 school. I think our best bet against BC is to give Hare a chance to get the ball to our weapons. Hare never got a chance to develop any rhythm. He completed three passes to start the second half drive and I was thinking "here we go!" But then we ran three straight times and punted. Look, if Bougie runs over BC I'd be ecstatic but I don't see it. I still think Hare is our best player and we should let our best player decide our toughest games. Fix the roll outs, the middle screens, and get the ball to our biggest weapons. Bougie is a nice player but he's not the weapon Golladay, TLL, or Turner are from where I see it.

I would commit that tOSU's defense is probably one of the best in the country (if not the best). Bosa, Washington, those two shutdown corners who I can't remember their names, and just an all around ferocious unit. We had 0 explosion plays because Hare was getting demolished. I think the Alabama team that NIU beat way back when was good, but their D was not anything like this, imo.

Do you think if we ran the ball less and threw more that we would've had more explosion? Because I think the only thing that would've risen would be the sack and INT totals.

Turner had 90 yards on 30 carries in that Maryland win in 2003. Not saying ACRB is close to turner but he ran hard against Ohio state.

Va. Tech had a lot of success throwing short and intermediate routes against Ohio State, so yes I think we could have pulled it off. I really felt like we had better skill players than Va. Tech and comparable linemen. Maybe I'm delusional. Va. Tech did of course lose their QB to start the second half and got blown out.

(09-21-2015 05:44 PM)BobL Wrote:  Turner had 90 yards on 30 carries in that Maryland win in 2003. Not saying ACRB is close to turner but he ran hard against Ohio state.

Yes but we got explosion plays from the passing game. Fleck and Sheldon beat Maryland defenders like a drum. I'd like to think Golladay, TLL, and Turner are even more talented than Fleck and Sheldon. Just felt like they weren't given a chance with so many bubbles that were thrown.

And the roll outs looked hopeless from the start. Va. Tech didn't do that. The template was there. We just didn't use it, in my opinion.

(09-21-2015 05:59 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  And the roll outs looked hopeless from the start. Va. Tech didn't do that. The template was there. We just didn't use it, in my opinion.

I don't think the coaching staff thought the game would evolve anywhere close to what happened. It is like NIU was running the 52-10 game plan when it was 20-13. It is a tough situation to adjust to on the fly.

(09-21-2015 05:47 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Va. Tech had a lot of success throwing short and intermediate routes against Ohio State, so yes I think we could have pulled it off. I really felt like we had better skill players than Va. Tech and comparable linemen. Maybe I'm delusional. Va. Tech did of course lose their QB to start the second half and got blown out.

They. Could. Not. Block. Ohio. State.

Dont get me wrong obviously we have a tremendous coaching staff. Their record speaks for itself. But I really think that we can and we should have had a signature win -- FSU or Ohio State -- if we trusted and game-planned around our QB's strengths in the passing game.

Neither could Va. Tech... Their QB got killed.

(09-21-2015 06:01 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-21-2015 05:59 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  And the roll outs looked hopeless from the start. Va. Tech didn't do that. The template was there. We just didn't use it, in my opinion.

I don't think the coaching staff thought the game would evolve anywhere close to what happened. It is like NIU was running the 52-10 game plan when it was 20-13. It is a tough situation to adjust to on the fly.

You are so clueless.

(09-21-2015 06:10 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Dont get me wrong obviously we have a tremendous coaching staff. Their record speaks for itself. But I really think that we can and we should have had a signature win -- FSU or Ohio State -- if we trusted and game-planned around our QB's strengths in the passing game.

FSU probably not, but I agree on Saturday's game, NIU got away offensively from their identity. I get why they did it, and some could even argue it was the wise thing to do, but I understand the mixed reaction it has invoked among Huskie fans and in the social media world.

I am not saying this was the case all day,but look at the room in the pocket NIU had, when running short intermediate routes, Hare has about 3 yards from any OSU defender in the pocket.

Oh my God, you picked one play and showed it hahahahaha

(09-21-2015 06:25 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I am not saying this was the case all day,but look at the room in the pocket NIU had, when running short intermediate routes, Hare has about 3 yards from any OSU defender in the pocket.

The entire 4th quarter was Hare scrambling around.... Come on man