Attention, UCF fans. Of course you are being trolled. It is mostly tongue in cheek, and is partly due to how boastful some of your fans were on here during the week leading up to the first game, especially toward Memphis fans.

If you're going to dish it out so strongly, you have to expect to get some pushback, especially when your team stumbles so badly, right out of the gate. And you have to admit, your team isn't helping you any, at the moment.

TripleA has spoken

(09-16-2015 09:26 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Attention, UCF fans. Of course you are being trolled. It is mostly tongue in cheek, and is partly due to how boastful some of your fans were on here during the week leading up to the first game, especially toward Memphis fans.

If you're going to dish it out so strongly, you have to expect to get some pushback, especially when your team stumbles so badly, right out of the gate. And you have to admit, your team isn't helping you any, at the moment.

I live in the now, man. #sparksdoobieGTG

#FuentetoTexas

(09-16-2015 09:31 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  TripleA has spoken

Yep he reels me in every now and then. Lol

I apologize

(09-16-2015 09:37 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  #FuentetoTexas

LOL. You KNOW Memphis fans have already discussed this possibility. Most of us think Fuente will leave after this season, or the following one. We are set up to be even better next season, assuming Lynch doesn't bolt early.

.500 ish team this year rebounding fairly quickly. They're always going to recruit towards the top of AAC due to location, so I don't think it will be too severe a downturn. Maybe 2-3 years or so of mediocre play at most.

(09-16-2015 09:07 PM)DeeHee33 Wrote:  The biggest question could be has Florida become to populated with DIVISION 1 football ? FAU, FIU, UCF, USF, UF, FSU, Stetson, Jacksonville, Miami

Third most populated state in the country, though.

(09-16-2015 11:49 PM)Harry J Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 09:07 PM)DeeHee33 Wrote:  The biggest question could be has Florida become to populated with DIVISION 1 football ? FAU, FIU, UCF, USF, UF, FSU, Stetson, Jacksonville, Miami

Third most populated state in the country, though.

1st most populous state, California with 7 FBS teams: UCal, USC, Stanford, UCLA, SDSU, SJSU, Fresno State

2nd most populous state, Texas with 11 FBS teams: UT, aTm, Tortilla Tech, Baylor, TCU, Houston, SMU, UNT, Texas State, UTSA, UTEP

3rd most populous state, Florida with 7 FBS teams: UF, FSU, Miami, UCF, USF, FIU, FAU

(09-16-2015 09:07 PM)DeeHee33 Wrote:  The biggest question could be has Florida become to populated with DIVISION 1 football ? FAU, FIU, UCF, USF, UF, FSU, Stetson, Jacksonville, Miami

I blame Urban Meyer.

Isn't this year about as low as the scholarship numbers get for UCF from the penalties? Aren't you playing with about 70 scholarship guys?

If so, a lull is not unexpected.

EDIT: UCF signed 72 players in four classes from 2012-2015. Only 57 of those players remain on the roster.

Any other scholarship players would be transfers or fifth year seniors from the 2011 class.

The roster lists 6 redshirt seniors plus a couple of grad students who might be from that 2011 class.

(09-16-2015 01:54 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Cheating... don't forget cheating.

(09-16-2015 01:50 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Recruiting, injuries, coaching, bad luck.
Faster than anybody would have thought so far this year.
4th or 5th in the east, maybe rebounding to contend next year.

Don't go on probation...as loss of 15 scholarships (plus other recruiting restrictions, loss of official visits, loss of days recruiting on the road, etc...) will hurt, especially at a non-P5 program.

Good news is Feb 2016 class will finally be UCF's first full 25 scholarship class in over 4 years...and mix in with a lot of Freshmen getting PT this season...one can still see the light at the end of the tunnel...and its not a steam train).

People also forget in the past 2 years we have had 2 players go pro in their junior or redshirt sophomore year in 2013 and 2014. 2 of those 4 players were taken in the first round of the NFL draft. What other G5 program can even come close to saying that??? (Could you imagine if last year we had bortles and storm johnson back???) Those were players the coaches didn't plan on having to replace so early when they were recruited. It would be nice if we had perriman (1st round pick) and jacoby glenn (2nd team all american) back this year too but we don't. Its not the determining factor on the down year we are having this year but it doesn't help when we are so young and inexperienced at the positions they left. We have never had two bad years in a row and I don't expect it to start happening now. If we can limit the damage this year and make a bowl game we will be even better next year because we are so young and only have 9 seniors most of whom don't start. Its not the end of the world to have one bad year. The timing could have been better but it is what it is, I'll be a fan regardless of how good we are. We still have two more games to get ready for conference play. Its a long season and far from over. Just because of an extremely disappointing first two weeks doesn't mean we can't turn it around. It doesn't help with a true freshman qb tho

(09-17-2015 07:37 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 01:54 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Cheating... don't forget cheating.

(09-16-2015 01:50 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Recruiting, injuries, coaching, bad luck.
Faster than anybody would have thought so far this year.
4th or 5th in the east, maybe rebounding to contend next year.

Don't go on probation...as loss of 15 scholarships (plus other recruiting restrictions, loss of official visits, loss of days recruiting on the road, etc...) will hurt, especially at a non-P5 program.

Good news is Feb 2016 class will finally be UCF's first full 25 scholarship class in over 4 years...and mix in with a lot of Freshmen getting PT this season...one can still see the light at the end of the tunnel...and its not a steam train).

I'm willing to bet that we still don't get to 25.

(09-17-2015 08:11 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 07:37 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 01:54 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Cheating... don't forget cheating.

(09-16-2015 01:50 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Recruiting, injuries, coaching, bad luck.
Faster than anybody would have thought so far this year.
4th or 5th in the east, maybe rebounding to contend next year.

Don't go on probation...as loss of 15 scholarships (plus other recruiting restrictions, loss of official visits, loss of days recruiting on the road, etc...) will hurt, especially at a non-P5 program.

Good news is Feb 2016 class will finally be UCF's first full 25 scholarship class in over 4 years...and mix in with a lot of Freshmen getting PT this season...one can still see the light at the end of the tunnel...and its not a steam train).

I'm willing to bet that we still don't get to 25.

Based upon what? You think that the coaches have the opportunity to get a full class for the first time in over 4 years and they're gonna pass on it just because they feel like it? Yeah the coaches are probably just like we could take a full class but nah well just keep taking less than we need.

(09-17-2015 08:11 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 07:37 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 01:54 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Cheating... don't forget cheating.

(09-16-2015 01:50 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Recruiting, injuries, coaching, bad luck.
Faster than anybody would have thought so far this year.
4th or 5th in the east, maybe rebounding to contend next year.

Don't go on probation...as loss of 15 scholarships (plus other recruiting restrictions, loss of official visits, loss of days recruiting on the road, etc...) will hurt, especially at a non-P5 program.

Good news is Feb 2016 class will finally be UCF's first full 25 scholarship class in over 4 years...and mix in with a lot of Freshmen getting PT this season...one can still see the light at the end of the tunnel...and its not a steam train).

I'm willing to bet that we still don't get to 25.

We're definitely off to a fast start with 5
(There are only 13 FBS programs with fewer at this point)

(09-17-2015 08:15 AM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 08:11 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 07:37 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 01:54 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Cheating... don't forget cheating.

(09-16-2015 01:50 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Recruiting, injuries, coaching, bad luck.
Faster than anybody would have thought so far this year.
4th or 5th in the east, maybe rebounding to contend next year.

Don't go on probation...as loss of 15 scholarships (plus other recruiting restrictions, loss of official visits, loss of days recruiting on the road, etc...) will hurt, especially at a non-P5 program.

Good news is Feb 2016 class will finally be UCF's first full 25 scholarship class in over 4 years...and mix in with a lot of Freshmen getting PT this season...one can still see the light at the end of the tunnel...and its not a steam train).

I'm willing to bet that we still don't get to 25.

Based upon what? You think that the coaches have the opportunity to get a full class for the first time in over 4 years and they're gonna pass on it just because they feel like it? Yeah the coaches are probably just like we could take a full class but nah well just keep taking less than we need.

We shall see. If we don't, another reason why we need a change.

(09-17-2015 08:26 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 08:15 AM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 08:11 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 07:37 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 01:54 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Cheating... don't forget cheating.

Don't go on probation...as loss of 15 scholarships (plus other recruiting restrictions, loss of official visits, loss of days recruiting on the road, etc...) will hurt, especially at a non-P5 program.

Good news is Feb 2016 class will finally be UCF's first full 25 scholarship class in over 4 years...and mix in with a lot of Freshmen getting PT this season...one can still see the light at the end of the tunnel...and its not a steam train).

I'm willing to bet that we still don't get to 25.

Based upon what? You think that the coaches have the opportunity to get a full class for the first time in over 4 years and they're gonna pass on it just because they feel like it? Yeah the coaches are probably just like we could take a full class but nah well just keep taking less than we need.

We shall see. If we don't, another reason why we need a change.

Oh I see. This is way to set up for another reason to fire GOL. The greatest coach in our history. The coach who lead the charge and helped get us an on campus stadium. The coach that has lead us to several conference division titles, conference championships, and a BCS bowl win. The guy that got us to our fist ever bowl game. The guy who got us our first ever bowl win. The guy who has recruited and developed a few all americans and NFL draft picks (some of whom were 1st rounders). We have every reason to doubt him. GOL is just the worst. He doesn't know anything.

I think this team will be a lot better in 4 weeks and I don't think any team is going undefeated in conference play. FYI, looks like a sell out this weekend for the Knights. They will be ready for conference play.

First and foremost its too early to say they are declining. They could turn around and win the next 10... again, too early to tell.

Do i see then slipping, yes.

Many have blasted me for saying how I felt that UCF took a short cut by repeatedly cheating and now they are feeling the affects, as I predicted. (wasnt hard, national pundits were saying the same) Every single championship in football that UCF has gotten, they were either cheating during that year or on probation for cheating. Thats says something.

There were a ton of whispers about kids that transfered in or made last second changes and came to UCF. I personally believe the tip of the iceberg was caught and not nearly all that was done. Ive seen a decrease in top trasnfers and UCFs recruiting classes dropped off, right after a Fiesta bowl win.... thats strange, right?

They are playing by the rules now and are finding it hard to get what they need. Losing 15 scholarship players also put a dent in their depth and I think thats what will cause a tanking this year. After their starters drop, they have very little expereince. USF dealt with that issue alot while in the Big East and its what cause us to drop in 2007... no depth.

With all that said, I still think they win about 5-6 games and are fine, which I want for them. I hate them with every fiber in my being but I also know that USF future is in part tied to UCF. We arent the prettiest at the ball, but were twins... and he doesnt want to bang twins.

Theyre gonna beat furman by at least 21. Theyll lose to South carolina but will go on to beat Tulane and Uconn. Its gonna get ugly for a bit after that. I think that the USF/UCF game will decide their post season fate... and very possibly USFs too.

Should make that weekend a real fun one to watch.