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Get undergraduate students to the polls!
It is imperative that we have a large turnout at the polls. The typical voting turn out is somewhere in the ballpark of 13%. If this happens, the BOT will say that 87% of the students didn't bother to vote so that shows they do not care about the Athletic programs. They will use this to deny the $25 increase regardless of the results of the referendum. We must use these next 2 weeks to promote the vote. Even if it will result in an increase of no votes, as long as we get a large voter turnout and an overwhelming yes vote (I am making contacts with the Greeks to help), they can't use that as an excuse.

There is no doubt that the strategy is to discourage and diminish the support for UAB Athletics, specifically football. We must dot our i's and cross our t's with everything they throw at us. We can't do anything about Coach's contract right now. There are people behind the scenes working on that. But we can make sure that the students are aware of the vote and aware of the consequences of the non-voters.

Spread the word!
09-14-2015 09:11 PM
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RE: Get undergraduate students to the polls!
(09-14-2015 09:11 PM)price4UAB Wrote:  It is imperative that we have a large turnout at the polls. The typical voting turn out is somewhere in the ballpark of 13%. If this happens, the BOT will say that 87% of the students didn't bother to vote so that shows they do not care about the Athletic programs. They will use this to deny the $25 increase regardless of the results of the referendum. We must use these next 2 weeks to promote the vote. Even if it will result in an increase of no votes, as long as we get a large voter turnout and an overwhelming yes vote (I am making contacts with the Greeks to help), they can't use that as an excuse.

There is no doubt that the strategy is to discourage and diminish the support for UAB Athletics, specifically football. We must dot our i's and cross our t's with everything they throw at us. We can't do anything about Coach's contract right now. There are people behind the scenes working on that. But we can make sure that the students are aware of the vote and aware of the consequences of the non-voters.

Spread the word!

That faulty logic works both ways though........at 13%, you could just as well as claim 87% don't mind the increase, as they did not bother to vote against it.
09-14-2015 09:24 PM
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RE: Get undergraduate students to the polls!
(09-14-2015 09:24 PM)Bham Blazer Wrote:  That faulty logic works both ways though........at 13%, you could just as well as claim 87% don't mind the increase, as they did not bother to vote against it.

Our calm and reasoned arguments have yet to sway the Board.

Every objection the Board raises must be swatted down like Tosin denying a layup. Our enthusiastic brother/sister is correct: our student activists have a major task over the next two weeks, and the chance for a major win from it.
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09-14-2015 09:29 PM
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RE: Get undergraduate students to the polls!
(09-14-2015 09:24 PM)Bham Blazer Wrote:  
(09-14-2015 09:11 PM)price4UAB Wrote:  It is imperative that we have a large turnout at the polls. The typical voting turn out is somewhere in the ballpark of 13%. If this happens, the BOT will say that 87% of the students didn't bother to vote so that shows they do not care about the Athletic programs. They will use this to deny the $25 increase regardless of the results of the referendum. We must use these next 2 weeks to promote the vote. Even if it will result in an increase of no votes, as long as we get a large voter turnout and an overwhelming yes vote (I am making contacts with the Greeks to help), they can't use that as an excuse.

There is no doubt that the strategy is to discourage and diminish the support for UAB Athletics, specifically football. We must dot our i's and cross our t's with everything they throw at us. We can't do anything about Coach's contract right now. There are people behind the scenes working on that. But we can make sure that the students are aware of the vote and aware of the consequences of the non-voters.

Spread the word!

That faulty logic works both ways though........at 13%, you could just as well as claim 87% don't mind the increase, as they did not bother to vote against it.

Yeah, that's how it'd be spun.
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RE: Get undergraduate students to the polls!
(09-14-2015 09:29 PM)58-56 Wrote:  
(09-14-2015 09:24 PM)Bham Blazer Wrote:  That faulty logic works both ways though........at 13%, you could just as well as claim 87% don't mind the increase, as they did not bother to vote against it.

Our calm and reasoned arguments have yet to sway the Board.

Every objection the Board raises must be swatted down like Tosin denying a layup. Our enthusiastic brother/sister is correct: our student activists have a major task over the next two weeks, and the chance for a major win from it.

True, better safe than sorry..........my mind is still Dazed and Confused over the Clay Ryan promotion :(
09-14-2015 09:45 PM
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(09-14-2015 09:29 PM)58-56 Wrote:  
(09-14-2015 09:24 PM)Bham Blazer Wrote:  That faulty logic works both ways though........at 13%, you could just as well as claim 87% don't mind the increase, as they did not bother to vote against it.

Our calm and reasoned arguments have yet to sway the Board.

Every objection the Board raises must be swatted down like Tosin denying a layup. Our enthusiastic brother/sister is correct: our student activists have a major task over the next two weeks, and the chance for a major win from it.

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RE: Get undergraduate students to the polls!
I don't expect that much of a turnout for the vote unless it gets one of those notices that pops up after students log into BlazerNet, and, even then, I wouldn't be surprised if the turnout was still low. The thing, though, is the people that do participate are sure to feel really strongly about it one way or another.

Don't worry about the apathy being spun in a fashion to show that people don't give a damn about athletics or anything like that. As mentioned above, its a nonstarter since the opposite could be argued just as easily.
09-15-2015 01:53 AM
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(09-15-2015 01:53 AM)Hopeful Wrote:  The thing, though, is the people that do participate are sure to feel really strongly about it one way or another.

This is my concern. 1% of the football fans and 100% of the football detractors vote. Final vote looks bad.
09-15-2015 06:29 AM
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Re: RE: Get undergraduate students to the polls!
(09-15-2015 06:29 AM)thebernreuter Wrote:  
(09-15-2015 01:53 AM)Hopeful Wrote:  The thing, though, is the people that do participate are sure to feel really strongly about it one way or another.

This is my concern. 1% of the football fans and 100% of the football detractors vote. Final vote looks bad.

The solution is to get the majority of the students to vote. The majority of students want to support Athletics. We need people from each program talking about it in class. So far this semester, I have had both of my instructors talk about the situation, incorporate the situation into their lesson (only taking 2 graduate courses so I can work). This is awesome. Just yesterday it was mentioned in class.

But that doesn't really help because we are graduates and can't vote. We need to help inform the undergraduates. There is a pep rally the day before the vote I believe. So that will help. Looking forward to the townhall meetings.
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RE: Get undergraduate students to the polls!
I've been hearing that the voting is online . Can anyone corroborate? That means one vote per login per ID. I would think an online vote means higher % voting.
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RE: Get undergraduate students to the polls!
(09-15-2015 10:56 AM)BlazerHam Wrote:  I've been hearing that the voting is online . Can anyone corroborate? That means one vote per login per ID. I would think an online vote means higher % voting.

If this is the case, then I suggest students setup remote voting stations across the campus. Hold a "voting party" at Heritage and get pizza. Host a huge rally on the Green and have computers all around for people to use. Make this a HUGE deal, because frankly, it is.
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RE: Get undergraduate students to the polls!
(09-15-2015 11:44 AM)Blzer4Life Wrote:  
(09-15-2015 10:56 AM)BlazerHam Wrote:  I've been hearing that the voting is online . Can anyone corroborate? That means one vote per login per ID. I would think an online vote means higher % voting.

If this is the case, then I suggest students setup remote voting stations across the campus. Hold a "voting party" at Heritage and get pizza. Host a huge rally on the Green and have computers all around for people to use. Make this a HUGE deal, because frankly, it is.

And the SGA needs the means to check IP addresses of voting computers. Just saying.
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There is a pep rally the day before on the greens.
09-15-2015 12:18 PM
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RE: Get undergraduate students to the polls!
Who is tallying the vote? Clay Ryan? Seriously, how will that work? We need someone trustworthy to keep an eye out for shady behavior regarding the vote count.
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RE: Get undergraduate students to the polls!
(09-15-2015 01:21 PM)the Dragon Wrote:  Who is tallying the vote? Clay Ryan? Seriously, how will that work? We need someone trustworthy to keep an eye out for shady behavior regarding the vote count.

The voting software being used is from Greene Group Inc.
http://www.manta.com/c/mb5lf3t/greene-group-inc
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