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Why did Owlmaha promote the event and all the awesome things that will come from it but then force everyone to contractually agree to not discuss anything that happened during it?

Double check the roles Daniel Watson and Rick Mello have Walt.
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(09-19-2015 09:40 AM)BufflOwl Wrote:  Why did Owlmaha promote the event and all the awesome things that will come from it but then force everyone to contractually agree to not discuss anything that happened during it?

Double check the roles Daniel Watson and Rick Mello have Walt.

1. Owlmaha posted to remind RBI Club members.

2. I am absolutely certain about the roles of Daniel Watson and Rick Mello. Rick is Deputy Athletic Director and Dr. K's right-hand. He has no direct responsibility for the baseball program.
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1. Then email and call them.

2. http://www.riceowls.com/genrel/mello_rick00.html

In his new role, Mello oversees facilities, sports medicine, athletic training, and equipment and serve as the administrative liaison to football, men's basketball, and baseball.

Ask Owlmaha...he oversees the program. Daniel is day to day non-baseball activities. Mello is the senior staff that reports to JK on football, baseball and men's basketball. You're wrong Walt.
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05-nono Silly Rabbit; DO NOT ARGUE with WALT; he is NEVER WRONG [in HIS mind...] and will never admit it even if proven wrong.....03-nutkick

(09-19-2015 10:01 AM)BufflOwl Wrote:  1. Then email and call them.

2. http://www.riceowls.com/genrel/mello_rick00.html

In his new role, Mello oversees facilities, sports medicine, athletic training, and equipment and serve as the administrative liaison to football, men's basketball, and baseball.

Ask Owlmaha...he oversees the program. Daniel is day to day non-baseball activities. Mello is the senior staff that reports to JK on football, baseball and men's basketball. You're wrong Walt.
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(09-19-2015 10:01 AM)BufflOwl Wrote:  1. Then email and call them.

2. http://www.riceowls.com/genrel/mello_rick00.html

In his new role, Mello oversees facilities, sports medicine, athletic training, and equipment and serve as the administrative liaison to football, men's basketball, and baseball.

Ask Owlmaha...he oversees the program. Daniel is day to day non-baseball activities. Mello is the senior staff that reports to JK on football, baseball and men's basketball. You're wrong Walt.

No, you're wrong. Daniel is Head of Baseball Operations. Period. Rick may provide administrative oversight over the various men's sports, but that simply means he is the primary liaison within the Athletic Department and, consequently, works with the head coaches on developing budgets, etc. He has no control over RBI Club funding or expenditures. BTW, I don't believe Rick has a new role; this is the role he has had since Dr. K arrived, and he's done a superb job at it.
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Sounds like your claiming Rick Mello doesn't do anything other than following JK around. Also sounds like you just said we haven't updated our website profiles since Joe arrived. Those are separate issues if true.

Btw I don't think Jerry Pickle oversees football, nor does Graham Bousley oversee men's basketball, nor do all of the sports without "Directors of Operations" go without oversight. Each sport is overseen by someone on the Senior Staff. Mello is that person for baseball.

You're lack of understanding that hurts your credibility, and the credibility of the RBI Club. You not admitting you're wrong is my point about the culture of that program right now. Despite all of that, the original point that confidentiality agreements for donor meetings is still really sketchy remains. ESPECIALLY if you're going to tout the upcoming meeting on public message boards.
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(09-19-2015 11:54 AM)BufflOwl Wrote:  Sounds like your claiming Rick Mello doesn't do anything other than following JK around. Also sounds like you just said we haven't updated our website profiles since Joe arrived. Those are separate issues if true.

Btw I don't think Jerry Pickle oversees football, nor does Graham Bousley oversee men's basketball, nor do all of the sports without "Directors of Operations" go without oversight. Each sport is overseen by someone on the Senior Staff. Mello is that person for baseball.

You're lack of understanding that hurts your credibility, and the credibility of the RBI Club. You not admitting you're wrong is my point about the culture of that program right now. Despite all of that, the original point that confidentiality agreements for donor meetings is still really sketchy remains. ESPECIALLY if you're going to tout the upcoming meeting on public message boards.

Lack of understanding? What don't YOU understand about the term, "administrative liaison"? I have utmost respect for Rick Mello, and he is the unquestioned #2 guy in the Athletic Department. He is an asset to both the department and to the University. However, he is the "administrative liaison" to baseball; NOT the overseeer of baseball operations. Second, why should information discussed at a very rarely held RBI (Rice Baseball INSIDER) Club meeting be released into the public domain? If you want to become an "insider", you can easily do so by simply contributing the minimal annual donation. Are you seriously taking issue with the fact that donors are getting some inside information that is not made public? I got news for you, that's the case with every single Rice athletic and academic organization. I guess none of them have any credibility with you then. So be it. 03-banghead
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You're wrong Walt. He's Coach Graham's boss. Daniel Watson is not.

Other schools don't make wealthy insiders sign confidentiality agreements.

And publically promoting a meeting that can't be discussed with the common folk afterward is elitist, egotistic and generally pompous. Seems like a theme for this program these days.

If you think that is what will help us win recruits and field better defensively then there's another dagger to your incredibly waning credibility. But hey you got the inside info from a liaison so who needs credibility.
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(09-19-2015 03:17 PM)BufflOwl Wrote:  You're wrong Walt. He's Coach Graham's boss. Daniel Watson is not.

Other schools don't make wealthy insiders sign confidentiality agreements.

And publically promoting a meeting that can't be discussed with the common folk afterward is elitist, egotistic and generally pompous. Seems like a theme for this program these days.

If you think that is what will help us win recruits and field better defensively then there's another dagger to your incredibly waning credibility. But hey you got the inside info from a liaison so who needs credibility.

Do you need reading comprehension? When did I ever say Wayne reported to Daniel; in fact, I specifically said Daniel reported to Coach Graham. And Wayne reports to Dr. K; not Rick Mello. Rick is simply the administrative liaison to the men's sports. The head coaches report to and are accountable to the AD.

Go back in your hole. Every single university provides donors-- especially big donors-- with inside information that is not to be made public. You must be living in fantasy land if you think otherwise.

As for Owlmaha promoting the meeting on The Parliament, I think one reason he did so (to go along with the mailing notification) was to advise that donations would be accepted at the door for new members wanting to attend the meeting. I believe he did specifically mention that in his post, no?
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"Go back in your hole"

Ladies and Gentleman your Walt Greenburg.

I'm done here. Enjoy your gag order from the powers that be Walt and good luck. What a joke.
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(09-19-2015 06:38 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(09-19-2015 03:17 PM)BufflOwl Wrote:  You're wrong Walt. He's Coach Graham's boss. Daniel Watson is not.

Other schools don't make wealthy insiders sign confidentiality agreements.

And publically promoting a meeting that can't be discussed with the common folk afterward is elitist, egotistic and generally pompous. Seems like a theme for this program these days.

If you think that is what will help us win recruits and field better defensively then there's another dagger to your incredibly waning credibility. But hey you got the inside info from a liaison so who needs credibility.

Do you need reading comprehension? When did I ever say Wayne reported to Daniel; in fact, I specifically said Daniel reported to Coach Graham. And Wayne reports to Dr. K; not Rick Mello. Rick is simply the administrative liaison to the men's sports. The head coaches report to and are accountable to the AD.

Go back in your hole. Every single university provides donors-- especially big donors-- with inside information that is not to be made public. You must be living in fantasy land if you think otherwise.

As for Owlmaha promoting the meeting on The Parliament, I think one reason he did so (to go along with the mailing notification) was to advise that donations would be accepted at the door for new members wanting to attend the meeting. I believe he did specifically mention that in his post, no?

Don't always agree with Walt, especially on baseball issues, but agree wholeheartedly on this one. Stop whining or join the RBI club, Buffalo Owl.
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Don't worry I'll go back in my hole. Good luck to you too.
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(09-19-2015 07:04 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  
(09-19-2015 06:38 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(09-19-2015 03:17 PM)BufflOwl Wrote:  You're wrong Walt. He's Coach Graham's boss. Daniel Watson is not.

Other schools don't make wealthy insiders sign confidentiality agreements.

And publically promoting a meeting that can't be discussed with the common folk afterward is elitist, egotistic and generally pompous. Seems like a theme for this program these days.

If you think that is what will help us win recruits and field better defensively then there's another dagger to your incredibly waning credibility. But hey you got the inside info from a liaison so who needs credibility.

Do you need reading comprehension? When did I ever say Wayne reported to Daniel; in fact, I specifically said Daniel reported to Coach Graham. And Wayne reports to Dr. K; not Rick Mello. Rick is simply the administrative liaison to the men's sports. The head coaches report to and are accountable to the AD.

Go back in your hole. Every single university provides donors-- especially big donors-- with inside information that is not to be made public. You must be living in fantasy land if you think otherwise.

As for Owlmaha promoting the meeting on The Parliament, I think one reason he did so (to go along with the mailing notification) was to advise that donations would be accepted at the door for new members wanting to attend the meeting. I believe he did specifically mention that in his post, no?

Don't always agree with Walt, especially on baseball issues, but agree wholeheartedly on this one. Stop whining or join the RBI club, Buffalo Owl.

Yep, sure there was nothing nefarious going on. Walt's tone here is defending, the other tone comes across as attacking. I think BuffaloOwl's questions are reasonable. But they weren't asked in a reasonable way, and Walt did his best to try and answer them.

JMO.
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Maybe it was aggressive. Although based on the historical nature of these boards I'd expect more folks to speak what they see and not what the administration tells them to. Now that we've established these boards have become a chirade for the powers that be we should go ahead and shut it down. I was really excited to hear about these improvements. Now that we know this administration just did a better job of manipulating Walf, Owlmaha, and the presidents office than the previous one did I'm ashamed to have joined these boards and the Owl Club. This is sad. I apologize for being the one that said it but someone had to.
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Leaked: Secret Meeting Agenda

1. RBI Club Secret Handshake

2. Blood Oath and Confidentiality Agreement

3. Opening Remarks by Wayne Graham's actual boss

4. Breakout Sessions (pick one)
- Bunting in 2016 and beyond
- The Importance of Internet Credibility
- Football's Signature Wins

5. Guest Lecture: "Everything's Fine" by Professor greenberg

6. Reckling Park Improvements
(Renderings have been tattooed to Rick Mello's back to minimize chance of leaks)

7. Dinner: Prince's Hamburgers (leftover from baseball concessions)

8. Adjourn, back to your holes or wherever.
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Someone has been paying attention before making a first post.

I hope this doesn't include any leaked info from an insider who changed their name to protect themselves from the powers that be.
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Good grief03-banghead There has always been info that was considered confidential in various donor meetings. The old Triple Play Dinners and QB Club get togethers often went with the caveat of items that were "not for public consumption". The Fan Experience Committee has the same circumstances. There are things being discussed that are internal only for the present time. Having said that I will agree that communications from the RBI Club were poorly worded and hinted that some set of information would be forthcoming. The intent was to discuss the budget issues that affect baseball currently and not necessarily the planned stadium improvements. In fact the budget concerns re:scholarships don't necessarily concern the RBI Club unless the Club itself decides to make it a part of their fundraising campaigns. As far as Mello's role is concerned he has far more duties than are generally attributed to him and his role with baseball isn't one of absolute control.
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OWLmantz = Bufflowl = FiestyNightBird = ExcitedOwl18

Anyone else think it's all the same poster? ExcitedOwl18 repped FiestyNightOwl one minute after "he" posted his first post, and BufflOwl quickly followed with his concurrence post on the Parliament. Everyone else was off the board and asleep at the time.

Talk about childish and no credibility. 03-banghead
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(09-20-2015 07:04 AM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  Good grief03-banghead There has always been info that was considered confidential in various donor meetings. The old Triple Play Dinners and QB Club get togethers often went with the caveat of items that were "not for public consumption". The Fan Experience Committee has the same circumstances. There are things being discussed that are internal only for the present time. Having said that I will agree that communications from the RBI Club were poorly worded and hinted that some set of information would be forthcoming. The intent was to discuss the budget issues that affect baseball currently and not necessarily the planned stadium improvements. In fact the budget concerns re:scholarships don't necessarily concern the RBI Club unless the Club itself decides to make it a part of their fundraising campaigns. As far as Mello's role is concerned he has far more duties than are generally attributed to him and his role with baseball isn't one of absolute control.

Actually, Tiki, it was not Owlmaha or any one else who hinted that communications would be forthcoming. if you revisit this thread you'll notice that it was Bufflowl himself who suggest that the Reckling renditions might be disclosed at the RBI Club meeting, and that he hoped they would be posted afterwards.
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(09-20-2015 07:23 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  OWLmantz = Bufflowl = FiestyNightBird = ExcitedOwl18

Anyone else think it's all the same poster? ExcitedOwl18 repped FiestyNightOwl one minute after "he" posted his first post, and BufflOwl quickly followed with his concurrence post on the Parliament. Everyone else was off the board and asleep at the time.

Talk about childish and no credibility. 03-banghead

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