Interesting concepts.
First one allowing the likeness for non-athletics purpose. Guess they could go do some car commercials for the local business and get paid for it. Seem to fit the 'Olympic Amateur Model'.

Fourth point regarding the allowance to take institutional aid instead of athletic one. This must relate to all sports besides football since football pretty much offers the full gamit with COA? Perhaps this includes help for FCS and non-fb D1 conferences? Wonder how Title IX is impacted in a way with athletes taking academic aid vs athletic.

I think the one that will be interesting is the 2nd one. I cant picture tv being all that happy with that one.

(09-11-2015 01:46 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I think the one that will be interesting is the 2nd one. I cant picture tv being all that happy with that one.

I took it as during the weekday only, but if it does include the weekend and games, then I agree that will very interesting and regarding games needing to end before 9pm. Seems justifiable especially for weekday games.

(09-11-2015 01:46 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I think the one that will be interesting is the 2nd one. I cant picture tv being all that happy with that one.

Yeah, I don't see that being realistic if it's meant to include games. That would seem to make it impossible for any conference to fulfill any of their TV contracts. It's actually even worse for weeknights compared to weekends - almost all weekday college basketball games, for instance, are at night.

That being said, my belief is that this rule isn't intended to apply to games. Instead, it's likely intended to be applied to practices, which is certainly a more reasonable stance.

Im not sure Im getting exactly what the last proposal is trying to do. Are they proposing that the stipend be extended to walk-ons during the fall semester?

(09-11-2015 01:55 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(09-11-2015 01:46 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I think the one that will be interesting is the 2nd one. I cant picture tv being all that happy with that one.

Yeah, I don't see that being realistic if it's meant to include games. That would seem to make it impossible for any conference to fulfill any of their TV contracts. It's actually even worse for weeknights compared to weekends - almost all weekday college basketball games, for instance, are at night.

That being said, my belief is that this rule isn't intended to apply to games. Instead, it's likely intended to be applied to practices, which is certainly a more reasonable stance.

If a 9 pm "curfew" applied to games, then it would knock out every football game that begins after 5:30 pm local time, every basketball game that begins after 6:30 pm, every night baseball or softball game, etc., etc.

Agreed that though the proposal is poorly worded, the intent is probably to prevent coaches from scheduling late-night practices or training sessions.

(09-11-2015 01:34 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

That 8 hour period between 9pm and 6am-is that Big 10 and Big 12 math?

Or is it 9pm pacific and 6am mountain?

(09-11-2015 01:44 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Interesting concepts.
First one allowing the likeness for non-athletics purpose. Guess they could go do some car commercials for the local business and get paid for it. Seem to fit the 'Olympic Amateur Model'.

Fourth point regarding the allowance to take institutional aid instead of athletic one. This must relate to all sports besides football since football pretty much offers the full gamit with COA? Perhaps this includes help for FCS and non-fb D1 conferences? Wonder how Title IX is impacted in a way with athletes taking academic aid vs athletic.

I think the first one has to do if they have their own business. Like maybe they build computers in their spare time.

(09-11-2015 02:22 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-11-2015 01:34 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

That 8 hour period between 9pm and 6am-is that Big 10 and Big 12 math?

Or is it 9pm pacific and 6am mountain?

Again, it's poorly worded, but I think the intent is that there should be an 8-hour dead period, but it could be 9 pm-5 am or 10 pm-6 am or 9:30 pm-5:30 am, etc.

(09-11-2015 02:22 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-11-2015 01:34 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

That 8 hour period between 9pm and 6am-is that Big 10 and Big 12 math?

Or is it 9pm pacific and 6am mountain?

It's too early... black out 1:00 AM through 9:00 AM local time.

saw ACC and SEC have proposed the end to Satellite camps. that'll be fascinating to watch.

(09-11-2015 03:18 PM)stever20 Wrote:  saw ACC and SEC have proposed the end to Satellite camps. that'll be fascinating to watch.

I am in total agreement with them on this. They should end IMHO.

Maybe EA will be able to start creating a college football game again but this time with everyone's likeness and proper numbers.

The amount of DLC that they could sell for that game would be huge.

(09-11-2015 01:44 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Interesting concepts.
First one allowing the likeness for non-athletics purpose. Guess they could go do some car commercials for the local business and get paid for it. Seem to fit the 'Olympic Amateur Model'.

Fourth point regarding the allowance to take institutional aid instead of athletic one. This must relate to all sports besides football since football pretty much offers the full gamit with COA? Perhaps this includes help for FCS and non-fb D1 conferences? Wonder how Title IX is impacted in a way with athletes taking academic aid vs athletic.

Number four is like going back to Nebraska's methods. It was abused, but it shows commitment from the school, on a more student-friendly academic award than the cold "not my kid" way it is now.

Title IX could be bypassed.

I can see schools abusing it on that side, but I think it onlyhurts their bottom line if they do. Guy busts his chops academically to get a full ride on the exact same line as a kid who only runs fast. A new era for the jock schools and cultures so many have been fighting to subdue.

(09-11-2015 05:45 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Maybe EA will be able to start creating a college football game again but this time with everyone's likeness and proper numbers.

The amount of DLC that they could sell for that game would be huge.

I have NEVER hoped anything you said H1 is truer than this!

(09-11-2015 01:55 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(09-11-2015 01:46 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I think the one that will be interesting is the 2nd one. I cant picture tv being all that happy with that one.

Yeah, I don't see that being realistic if it's meant to include games. That would seem to make it impossible for any conference to fulfill any of their TV contracts. It's actually even worse for weeknights compared to weekends - almost all weekday college basketball games, for instance, are at night.

That being said, my belief is that this rule isn't intended to apply to games. Instead, it's likely intended to be applied to practices, which is certainly a more reasonable stance.

That would be bad news for Hawaii. Their games are usually around midnight Eastern and Central time zones. I think the issue would be the time zones could be effected.

Plus, I do not see any of this past. Especially #1. The term Amuature means not pro. Jeremy Bloom got hit hard by the NCAA when they ruled him ineligble to play for Colorado because he took money for endorsements for his Olympics sport that he was never part of Colorado. It would not be fair to him if the NCAA would allow this.

(09-11-2015 03:18 PM)stever20 Wrote:  saw ACC and SEC have proposed the end to Satellite camps. that'll be fascinating to watch.

This just plays into my general theory that coaches are whiners and have gotten worse since the money has gotten bigger.

(09-11-2015 10:07 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-11-2015 03:18 PM)stever20 Wrote:  saw ACC and SEC have proposed the end to Satellite camps. that'll be fascinating to watch.

This just plays into my general theory that coaches are whiners and have gotten worse since the money has gotten bigger.

I propsed that schools like Alabama let other schools to become independent from the main state school. UAB, UALR, SC-Upstate, USC-Beaufort and others will drop the state in their name and become Birmingham University, Little Rock U., Upstate U., Beaufort State, Milwaukee, Chatanooga, Martin U. and so forth.

(09-11-2015 02:15 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(09-11-2015 01:55 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(09-11-2015 01:46 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I think the one that will be interesting is the 2nd one. I cant picture tv being all that happy with that one.

Yeah, I don't see that being realistic if it's meant to include games. That would seem to make it impossible for any conference to fulfill any of their TV contracts. It's actually even worse for weeknights compared to weekends - almost all weekday college basketball games, for instance, are at night.

That being said, my belief is that this rule isn't intended to apply to games. Instead, it's likely intended to be applied to practices, which is certainly a more reasonable stance.

If a 9 pm "curfew" applied to games, then it would knock out every football game that begins after 5:30 pm local time, every basketball game that begins after 6:30 pm, every night baseball or softball game, etc., etc.

Agreed that though the proposal is poorly worded, the intent is probably to prevent coaches from scheduling late-night practices or training sessions.

What coach is scheduling practice to start at 8pm? Even 7pm??

I have heard of early morning workouts, but not before 6am. Again, what coach is scheduling 5am training?


It seems to just be formalizing what is most likely the "common sense" practice at 99.9% of schools.


And I do agree, I think the intent was for practice and training activities, on-campus, on non-gamedays.