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(09-10-2015 09:17 PM)58-56 Wrote:  

(09-10-2015 09:15 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  So that would include Watts and the BOT and not just Ingram.

Of course it does. And which one of those will be sacrificed to protect the rest?

And if that happens we're still left with the same problem.

Do you honestly think this will ever become a legal issue?

I believe it is quickly approaching that point. A lot of money has been ear-marked that would have to be returned if they do not reinstate. We already have examples of criminal activities throughout the process. Eventually someone will stand up to the corruption. Just need to get to the tipping point.

(09-10-2015 09:20 PM)tibber Wrote:  Do you honestly think this will ever become a legal issue?

Yes.

We keep saying this is bigger than football, well it maybe time to start recognizing this and do what really needs to be done, separating from the system. And that means everyone making sacrifices and not just a few.

Eh. I'll believe that when I see a Bill Clark coached team take the field in 2017.

(09-10-2015 09:19 PM)58-56 Wrote:  

(09-10-2015 09:18 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Personally, I think he should resign and just remove himself from this mess.

Agreed. He would be foolish to remain employed by UAB any longer than it takes to clean out his desk.

I thought he'd have to be nuts to take the gig in the first place.

Separation is going to take intervention from someone outside the state government. It will have to be big to force change. Some progress can be made in the state legislature, but as long as the governor is in power nothing will get done.

(09-10-2015 09:20 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(09-10-2015 09:17 PM)58-56 Wrote:  

(09-10-2015 09:15 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  So that would include Watts and the BOT and not just Ingram.

Of course it does. And which one of those will be sacrificed to protect the rest?

And if that happens we're still left with the same problem.

Well sure, but this now-confirmed contract "offer" shows that Ingram is irrelevant anyway. That dictate came straight from the Athletic Committee of the Trustees, possibly without even a courtesy phone call to Ingram until he was ordered to deliver the ultimatum.

(09-10-2015 09:19 PM)uab278 Wrote:  I wonder if the federal AG would be willing to step in to help UAB.

I devoutly hope that they have been monitoring this for quite some time. It is not like they were not made aware of the corruption around the BoT.

I get a woody thinking about the whole damned lot of them going up on RICO charges.

(09-10-2015 09:13 PM)TMcCarty Wrote:  I think the issue would be fraud, I.E. saying a contract is being negotiated when it really isn't.

I think everyone needs to take a step back and breathe a little bit. It's a BS thing that's going on, but publicly making false statements is not fraud.

Back when our plight was in the news with the Montgomery lobbying efforts, we stayed that the #freeuab narrative had to bring in all injustice. If we focus solely on football, we are turning off the national media and not giving the story justice. Dr Dr Governor getting caught with his hand in the Mason jar is a huge win for us. We have to exploit this for our continued advancement (eg secret PAC funded by BOT members, Espy representing Dr Dr for any charges brought against him, etc).

(09-10-2015 09:45 PM)FNblazer Wrote:  Back when our plight was in the news with the Montgomery lobbying efforts, we stayed that the #freeuab narrative had to bring in all injustice. If we focus solely on football, we are turning off the national media and not giving the story justice. Dr Dr Governor getting caught with his hand in the Mason jar is a huge win for us. We have to exploit this for our continued advancement (eg secret PAC funded by BOT members, Espy representing Dr Dr for any charges brought against him, etc).

Word is they are scrambling to get ALL involved or with knowledge of the governor's shenanigans to sign non-disclosure agreements. If nothing else, this should raise a red flag with any law enforcement entity that wants to see it. Of course, we KNOW Luther Strange isn't gonna do a damn thing. It would have to be federal and the UA criminal cartel are very careful to not break any federal laws - but everyone makes mistakes. To my knowledge NDAs are not binding in a criminal proceeding...

You want to hurt them? Hit them in their pockets:

http://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profi...anizations

& just read this

http://nonprofitquarterly.org/2015/04/03...f-alabama/

(09-10-2015 09:40 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(09-10-2015 09:13 PM)TMcCarty Wrote:  I think the issue would be fraud, I.E. saying a contract is being negotiated when it really isn't.

I think everyone needs to take a step back and breathe a little bit. It's a BS thing that's going on, but publicly making false statements is not fraud.

+10
Agree if lying to the public was a crime their would 17 republicans and 7(?or so?) democrats running for president - guilty.

(09-10-2015 09:45 PM)FNblazer Wrote:  Back when our plight was in the news with the Montgomery lobbying efforts, we stayed that the #freeuab narrative had to bring in all injustice. If we focus solely on football, we are turning off the national media and not giving the story justice. Dr Dr Governor getting caught with his hand in the Mason jar is a huge win for us. We have to exploit this for our continued advancement (eg secret PAC funded by BOT members, Espy representing Dr Dr for any charges brought against him, etc).

The so called secret pac was approved by the ethics commission - so it was actually pre-cleared by the appropriate law enforcement agency -again no sign of a crime Don't worry If true we will win big in the long run but I not believe the BOT is this stupid

I guessed a long time ago that the BOT was going to make the fans choose between a football program or Clark, and not allow us to have both. I suspect they are holding a grudge because Clark brought their plan to kill football to light last year by pushing for the practice facility and soliciting donations to get it built.

They hold grudges. They will never allow Clark to coach another down of football. Clark will become another great football coach somewhere else just like Jimbo Fisher.

(09-10-2015 10:18 PM)uabbean Wrote:  

(09-10-2015 09:40 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(09-10-2015 09:13 PM)TMcCarty Wrote:  I think the issue would be fraud, I.E. saying a contract is being negotiated when it really isn't.

I think everyone needs to take a step back and breathe a little bit. It's a BS thing that's going on, but publicly making false statements is not fraud.

+10
Agree if lying to the public was a crime their would 17 republicans and 7(?or so?) democrats running for president - guilty.

(09-10-2015 09:45 PM)FNblazer Wrote:  Back when our plight was in the news with the Montgomery lobbying efforts, we stayed that the #freeuab narrative had to bring in all injustice. If we focus solely on football, we are turning off the national media and not giving the story justice. Dr Dr Governor getting caught with his hand in the Mason jar is a huge win for us. We have to exploit this for our continued advancement (eg secret PAC funded by BOT members, Espy representing Dr Dr for any charges brought against him, etc).

The so called secret pac was approved by the ethics commission - so it was actually pre-cleared by the appropriate law enforcement agency -again no sign of a crime Don't worry If true we will win big in the long run but I not believe the BOT is this stupid

Its not the PAC that's illegal, its the governor's use of state funds to carry out his affair. From using state employees to further his affair(deputies that "cleared" the way, extra travel and accommodations, including use of state-owned properties for personal use, etc)...

(09-10-2015 09:04 PM)58-56 Wrote:  Mark Ingram, do you really want to throw away your career, do prison time and destroy your family for these people?

He wouldn't be going to prison but he would certainly destroy any future chances to be an Athletic Director at a level higher than community college and his family would certainly suffer.

I warned him the first time I got to talk to him he needed to make sure he got on the right side of this and his actions would determine whether the UAB family would accept him or not. He needs to come out with a statement on this issue and show some backbone.

(09-10-2015 10:38 PM)blzrclub80 Wrote:  

(09-10-2015 09:04 PM)58-56 Wrote:  Mark Ingram, do you really want to throw away your career, do prison time and destroy your family for these people?

He wouldn't be going to prison but he would certainly destroy any future chances to be an Athletic Director at a level higher than community college and his family would certainly suffer.

I warned him the first time I got to talk to him he needed to make sure he got on the right side of this and his actions would determine whether the UAB family would accept him or not. He needs to come out with a statement on this issue and show some backbone.

I have yet to see ANY indication he has a spine. DO the RIGHT thing. Its not hard.

(09-10-2015 10:26 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  I guessed a long time ago that the BOT was going to make the fans choose between a football program or Clark, and not allow us to have both. I suspect they are holding a grudge because Clark brought their plan to kill football to light last year by pushing for the practice facility and soliciting donations to get it built.

They hold grudges. They will never allow Clark to coach another down of football. Clark will become another great football coach somewhere else just like Jimbo Fisher.

This certainly seems to be their goal, and they certainly hold all the power to make it happen. Only the farce of a re-instatement announcement has gone against them, and that's becoming less and less impressive as more time passes without anything substantial/significant happening.