(09-10-2015 02:20 PM)wdlowl Wrote: From what I understand, you are correct. There is no reason for a libero to come off the court. You simply have to have someone else substitute out, and the player the libero originally substituted for must come back in (that player can then be substituted out as an official sub).
She can sub at any position in the back row, 1, 6 or 5.
I would imagine with an 8th grade team, you might not have a lot of club players familiar with the rules, and they might be keeping things simple.
I know my daughter gets frustrated at times with the non-club players on her school teams, because they don't have a thorough knowledge of subs/rotations/movements.
Source of authority:
My older daughter is a freshman JV volleyball player in HS, and has played club VB for four years now. My wife trained as a down ref, and I passed the question to her, and she confirmed before she had to go into a meeting. I've just learned through observing/asking questions and being derided for not understanding vb. : )
(09-09-2015 11:45 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: Okay my daughter is now the libero on her 8th grade team so she gets to wear a cool pink uniform. I understand the basics of that position but I'm confused on one thing.
If she's substituted for a player and gone from the back right to the back left position in a normal flow of the match, I get that she can't go to the front row when she would normally be rotating to that spot. But my question is - is she anchored at that particular spot in the rotation (so she subs out with probably the same player). Or can she rotate at that point with say the front right player so she can go back to the back right spot in the lineup if the coach wants to keep her in the game? I do know she can only serve at the same spot in the rotation but for some reason I thought she could stay on the court pretty much the whole time if the coach wants to keep her in the game.
There are also differences in the rules allowing liberos to serve depending upon which set of rules are applied to the specific competition. My daughter also played libero & DS for several years in both club and JHS & HS teams. I gave up trying to understand the rules around the libero position and just enjoyed the competition. I admire your for trying to sort it all out.
For a simple explanation (no guarantee on the accuracy) here is what Wikipedia has to say about it.
Libero
In 1998 the libero player was introduced internationally. The libero is a player specialized in defensive skills: the libero must wear a contrasting jersey color from his or her teammates and cannot block or attack the ball when it is entirely above net height. When the ball is not in play, the libero can replace any back-row player, without prior notice to the officials. This replacement does not count against the substitution limit each team is allowed per set, although the libero may be replaced only by the player whom he or she replaced.
The libero may function as a setter only under certain restrictions. If she/he makes an overhand set, she/he must be standing behind (and not stepping on) the 3-meter line; otherwise, the ball cannot be attacked above the net in front of the 3-meter line. An underhand pass is allowed from any part of the court.
The libero is, generally, the most skilled defensive player on the team. There is also a libero tracking sheet, where the referees or officiating team must keep track of whom the libero subs in and out for. There may only be one libero per set (game), although there may be a different libero in the beginning of any new set (game).
Furthermore, a libero is not allowed to serve, according to international rules, with the exception of the NCAA women's volleyball games, where a 2004 rule change allows the libero to serve, but only in a specific rotation. That is, the libero can only serve for one person, not for all of the people for whom she goes in. That rule change was also applied to high school and junior high play soon after.
