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(09-09-2015 08:59 PM)gostangs Wrote:  To say these ranking are not accurate is to just be a homer for your school. I wish SMU had gone up a couple instead of down a couple (5 way tie both years), but they are pretty accurate in general. I know it seems like working students get dinged here - but the fact is student quality is one of the biggest rated items here and that is what is being gauged.

SMU is pretty dang close to Tulane in average standardized test scores and student quality - so i would have thought we would have pulled closer. No idea why they would jump that much relative to us. Guess we will just have to slap them around in football to teach them a lesson.

For those who keep blaming working and part-time students on their rankings, US News only uses stats from full-time undergraduates. Something like 20% of Tulane's undergrads are part-time students with full-time jobs, so it's not like our students don't work during school.

Gotta say, US News is totally a flawed system, and anyone who tries to suggest it's an accurate reflection of actual educational quality is lying to themselves. It mostly measures retention and graduation rates. But it exists and the general public gives it credence, so you gotta go with it if you wanna keep up.

(09-11-2015 10:38 AM)rollgreenwave Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 08:59 PM)gostangs Wrote:  To say these ranking are not accurate is to just be a homer for your school. I wish SMU had gone up a couple instead of down a couple (5 way tie both years), but they are pretty accurate in general. I know it seems like working students get dinged here - but the fact is student quality is one of the biggest rated items here and that is what is being gauged.

SMU is pretty dang close to Tulane in average standardized test scores and student quality - so i would have thought we would have pulled closer. No idea why they would jump that much relative to us. Guess we will just have to slap them around in football to teach them a lesson.

For those who keep blaming working and part-time students on their rankings, US News only uses stats from full-time undergraduates. Something like 20% of Tulane's undergrads are part-time students with full-time jobs, so it's not like our students don't work during school.

Gotta say, US News is totally a flawed system, and anyone who tries to suggest it's an accurate reflection of actual educational quality is lying to themselves. It mostly measures retention and graduation rates. But it exists and the general public gives it credence, so you gotta go with it if you wanna keep up.

The graduation rate is calculated over a certain time period.

(09-09-2015 08:49 PM)Biz Prof Wrote:  DOs are the 21st-century version of the General Practitioner. Medicine has evolved quite a bit since ECU launched its school in the '70s. Campbell's School of Medicine is just that--a medical school--but it is nowhere near being in the same league as the medical schools operated by Duke, ECU, UNC-CH, and Wake Forest. It does fit nicely within its collection of related programs that offer professional doctorates.

As for the rankings, please take those with a grain of salt. Remember that US News derives a great deal if revenue from the attention lavished upon its methodologically-questionable "list". I would be proud for my kids to attend any member institution of the AAC.

I didn't think the whole osteopathic thing meant much anymore. It's an archaic term from the beginnings of medical practice....allopathic and osteopathic

The both prescribe medicine, perform suregery, etc.

Both have the same license to practice medicine.

Not sure why the term even exists anymore.