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RE: LB Casseus Suspended
He is now suing the university, claiming the evidence of the sexual assault doesn't exist, citing her story that has changed multiple times.
 
09-17-2015 07:32 AM
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(09-17-2015 07:32 AM)Ahhhorsepoo Wrote:  He is now suing the university, claiming the evidence of the sexual assault doesn't exist, citing her story that has changed multiple times.

I read the story and assumed it was Casseus but it did not give the individual's name in the story I read. Do you know for sure it's him?
 
09-17-2015 09:17 AM
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What story are you all referring to? He got busted for sexual assault?
 
09-17-2015 10:35 AM
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Found it...

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A University of Cincinnati football player is now suing the university after he was suspended from campus and from the football team after being accused of sexual misconduct.

The student's lawyer says his client was unfairly treated in the hearing process and they've now decided to appeal what he is calling an unnecessary suspension.

The student had been a football player at UC for four years and had one semester left before graduating before the allegation was made. He said the girl who accused him is lying about what happened; he said her story detailing the incident has changed several times and that Cincinnati Police didn’t find evidence to back her claims.

The incident happened on UC’s campus back in February when the student, who wishes to remain anonymous, had what he believed was consensual sex with another student. Later that night, after he’d dropped her off, she reported the incident to Cincinnati Police but they did not find enough reasonable cause to file charges.

The girl then went to UC Police the next day and reported the alleged incident to them. Two months after that, the university took action, questioning the accused student about the incident.

A hearing was then set for Aug. 25. The student’s lawyer said the university’s hearing process is one that effectively presumes the accused guilty instead of requiring the accuser to prove they were assaulted.

“It’s a process in which it’s impossible for a student to fairly defend themselves,” said Josh Engel, the student’s attorney. “The hearings are pretty much kangaroo courts that are going to find you responsible and impose some kind of discipline whether it be suspension or expulsion.”

The student’s lawyer says since 2010, UC has had a track record of finding accused students responsible for sexual assault. Since 2010, 10 similar cases were brought forward to the university. All 10 of the accused were found guilty and all of the appeals that were presented were denied. The student’s lawyer hopes the buck stops here for his client.

“We filed an injunction seeking to have him remain in school and play on the football team while his appeal is pending,” Engel stated. “What isn’t fair is that he should be suspended while that appeal process is going on.”

On Wednesday, we received the following statement from the University of Cincinnati regarding how they handle sexual misconduct cases:

"Due to federal confidentiality laws, we cannot address the specifics of any individual case. The university is precluded by law on commenting about the circumstances of any specific case in terms of what happened and why. Due process is an important part of our process, which is mandated by federal law and guidelines. Our goal is to handle cases in a fair and sensitive manner, providing both support and due process, while also protecting the campus community.

These are complex issues and there have been strong opinions on all sides, interest groups involved, and even competing proposals on the federal level. That complexity and these divides are also found within Title IX cases within the Student Code of Conduct system where we may find our students on opposing sides. I understand how difficult these issues and cases are for our students. In our actions and processes, UC is following all laws and the guidelines required by the Department of Education regarding Title IX, with the goal of assuring the best and safest learning environment and campus for all. We care about all our students."
 
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If the guy is innocent and his whole world comes crashing down because of this accusation, then I really feel for the kid. Not sure what the protocol is here but I feel like at other schools, kids aren't suspended from the team until the legal process works it way through (see Jameis Winston).
 
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Unless there is more evidence that we don't know about.

You never know what has been released.
 
09-17-2015 12:22 PM
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(09-17-2015 12:10 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  If the guy is innocent and his whole world comes crashing down because of this accusation, then I really feel for the kid. Not sure what the protocol is here but I feel like at other schools, kids aren't suspended from the team until the legal process works it way through (see Jameis Winston).

See X and Dez Wells and a big litigation settlment.
 
09-17-2015 12:31 PM
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It sounds like the legal.process did work its way through and he wasn't charged. He also isn't a potential Heisman candidate playing for a potential national champion.
 
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(09-17-2015 12:10 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  If the guy is innocent and his whole world comes crashing down because of this accusation, then I really feel for the kid. Not sure what the protocol is here but I feel like at other schools, kids aren't suspended from the team until the legal process works it way through (see Jameis Winston).

I think back to last year and Jerrod Evans. I can't think of any other school where Evans would have missed out on an entire season giving the allegations made in that case. Incidents like that involving football players happen every week in Columbus, Knoxville, Tallahassee, etc.

As to rape allegations, there has been a trend in higher ed the past decade or so where students accused of rape are considered "guilty until proven innocent". There was a story last year about a guy in some small liberal arts college up north who got the boot even after the girl later admitted the act was consensual (and she slept with another guy after she slept with the alleged "rapist").
 
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This is a damned if you do and a damned if you don't situation. Let him play and if he's charged or found guilty then it would be a PR nightmare. Suspend him and he's not charged or found innocent then you open yourself up to something like this. I don't know the appropriate way to handle things in a situation like this, I suppose I would side with the coaches here.

Biggest lesson to be learned is this: DON'T PUT YOURSELF IN A POSITION WHERE SOMEONE COULD ACCUSE YOU OF A CRIME! I know it's easier said than done as people have started targeting athletes (unfairly in many cases) but it sure seems like it's easy to stay out of trouble than to get in it.
 
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(09-17-2015 01:06 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(09-17-2015 12:10 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  If the guy is innocent and his whole world comes crashing down because of this accusation, then I really feel for the kid. Not sure what the protocol is here but I feel like at other schools, kids aren't suspended from the team until the legal process works it way through (see Jameis Winston).

I think back to last year and Jerrod Evans. I can't think of any other school where Evans would have missed out on an entire season giving the allegations made in that case. Incidents like that involving football players happen every week in Columbus, Knoxville, Tallahassee, etc.

As to rape allegations, there has been a trend in higher ed the past decade or so where students accused of rape are considered "guilty until proven innocent". There was a story last year about a guy in some small liberal arts college up north who got the boot even after the girl later admitted the act was consensual (and she slept with another guy after she slept with the alleged "rapist").

There is a trend in society as a whole that if you are accused of rape you are definitely guilty until proven innocent and I would assume that it's hard to shake that stigma for even being accused. Look at the ongoing investigation to Patrick Kane of the Chicago Blackhawks. Granted, he does have some bad behavior in his past but nearly EVERYONE just assumes he did it even though he has not been charged or taken to trial. Those allegations will stick with him for a long time even if he is totally cleared of all wrongdoing. Again, don't put yourself in those situations if you can help it but the "R" word is certainly a hard one to shake.
 
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(09-17-2015 01:06 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(09-17-2015 12:10 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  If the guy is innocent and his whole world comes crashing down because of this accusation, then I really feel for the kid. Not sure what the protocol is here but I feel like at other schools, kids aren't suspended from the team until the legal process works it way through (see Jameis Winston).

I think back to last year and Jerrod Evans. I can't think of any other school where Evans would have missed out on an entire season giving the allegations made in that case. Incidents like that involving football players happen every week in Columbus, Knoxville, Tallahassee, etc.

Those schools are always given a pass. If a UC were to play by their rules UC would get crucified. Welcome to one of many double standards in college sports.
 
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Before a suspension, I would hope for corroborating evidence or some level of reasonable suspension/probable cause. The guy has too much invested to take it away with any less evidence.
 
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