(08-31-2015 11:23 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-31-2015 09:09 PM)pesik Wrote:  welp there goes umass's only chance at a conference without dominating in football

side note: their old AD is our new AD....

the sunbelt is essentially fcs quality at this point..with the addition of idaho and nmst they could have really pushed for some of the numerous fcs powers in the West (ndst, ewu, montana, Illinois State etc.) but the sunbelt has just been adding a bunch of lack luster teams

but i heard liberty had offered a ridiculous amount to join and were passed up

The Sun Belt has 4 or 5 really poor teams. The top of that league is nowhere near FCS Quality

If we could dump Idaho and potentially NMSU, we'd fix a lot of our problems on the football side.

troy
ulm (on most years)
app state
ga state
texas state
idaho
nmst
south alabama
and now coastal carolina

are all fcs quality teams...whatever wins they get its because they are beating up on each other

ark state, ull and ga southern are the only teams i think are fbs quality teams and honestly they only look as good as they do because of the horrid conference.
you literally had a team in its first year in the fbs run the table on your conference..a team that had conference loses in it fcs conference the year before

im not joking here..id take the missouri valley conference and big sky over the sunbelt today....that might change over the next decade as your teams start infusing fbs talent into your rosters ...but those 2 fcs conference are better than yours if you took your sunbelt glasses off..
you added a bunch of non powers from the fcs, all because you threw an fbs logo on them doesnt make them better than the fcs power 2 years later

(09-01-2015 07:26 AM)Chappy Wrote:  Neighborhood's getting crowded. We were the only non-ACC FBS team for miles and miles, and in the last few seasons Appalachian, Charlotte, ODU, and now Coastal have all made the move. Recruiting is going to get tougher for us, but I think we still have a major edge on all those schools with the atmosphere at Dowdy Ficklen.

IMO this is just a sign of the looming split. FBS will split and whatever the new top level is, we will be there and the beat will carry on.

The symmetry is completed >>>

Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN When Coastal Carolina joins Sun Belt in football in 2017, there will be 130 in FBS - 65 each from P5 & G5

65 and 65 now. So the official split can start assuming P5 stays 5. I see it eventually going to the P4 with guaranteed CFP spots. Then Change the CFP to 8 teams with 1 going to the G5 champ and 3 being wild card.

I know this has been discussed until we but 4 P4 conferences of 16/18 teams makes sense for their scheme. There are already 66 P5 teams if you count BYU so staying at 16 technically will not work to make room for the existing P5 members.

So mathematically they would need to go to 18 to make it work.

So that means 6 G5 teams get promoted. .....most likely from the American and MWC.

I know everyone like symmetry but what is the impetus for it? Further, the power 5 aren't splitting by themselves, they need little brothers to beef up their win totals otherwise the Wake Forests and Washington States can't sell their alumni on how wonderful they are and progress is on going. No one in the Contract 5 wants to be the new Sun Belt or MAC.

The top of the G5 is waaaaay too different from the bottom of the G5 for the even 65 split. There is no way that the P5 'split' and leave the multiple huge programs (Boise, Cinci, Houston, etc etc etc) in the minor league. It's simply not going to happen, would be a political firestorm.

I don't think any split will happen, if it was desired it would have happened already. But if it does, the MWC and AAC certainly tag along. Or a 'best of the rest' will be created. The P5 are not stupid, they want a few 'easy' games to get their 6-6 and help coaches keep their jobs.

Not sure how much Coastal Carolina helps App in travel since its still 6 hours away

(08-31-2015 08:39 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Good for them.

Just another mouth to feed in the area

(09-01-2015 09:32 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(08-31-2015 08:39 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Good for them.

Just another mouth to feed in the area

We really haven't been hindered by any of the other upstarts in recruiting. I doubt school like Coastal is going to throw too many wrenches in our plans.

(09-01-2015 09:36 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(09-01-2015 09:32 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(08-31-2015 08:39 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Good for them.

Just another mouth to feed in the area

We really haven't been hindered by any of the other upstarts in recruiting. I doubt school like Coastal is going to throw too many wrenches in our plans.

"JEROME SIMPSON (6-2, 180, 4.4) REIDSVILLE, N.C. — Simpson has been one of the state’s most prolific receivers for the last two seasons, piling up almost 3,000 yards receiving. ECU is his only offer, but no date has been set for an official visit."

http://www.bonesville.com/Articles/Sammy...Batten.htm

Went to Coastal, 2nd round pick and 6 years in the NFL later

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/pl...mpJe00.htm


All these schools will get a player or two here and there and it starts to added up when you are talking even 4 or 5 a class between the 4 of those new schools over 5 classes that's 20-25 players on your roster you have to find elsewhere not even including high level walk ons we used to get that wanted to play D1 now they offer scholarships.

That's a lot of new scholarships in this saturated area now and with D1 leverage behind them. I think we still have advantages clearly and will get most of who we want but how often do we take fringe guys like Simpson and do big things or get walk on's like Hardy that start or even blow up. The sum of it will hurt us no doubt, probably already has. I don't follow footbal recruiting anymore to name many specifics but it's just common sense. I know we offered ODU's starting QB. Probably could have used him about right now.

(09-01-2015 08:32 AM)VirginiaPirate Wrote:  65 and 65 now. So the official split can start assuming P5 stays 5. I see it eventually going to the P4 with guaranteed CFP spots. Then Change the CFP to 8 teams with 1 going to the G5 champ and 3 being wild card.

I know this has been discussed until we but 4 P4 conferences of 16/18 teams makes sense for their scheme. There are already 66 P5 teams if you count BYU so staying at 16 technically will not work to make room for the existing P5 members.

So mathematically they would need to go to 18 to make it work.

So that means 6 G5 teams get promoted. .....most likely from the American and MWC.

I don't think you will ever see an official guaranteed spot for a conference even if it goes to P4. That is what got the BCS into trouble. It will always be the top 4 or 8 teams determined by a committee. The only thing of going to P4, it virtually would make the P4 Championship games the semi's. This would allow to keep the CFP bowls and send the G5 Champ a bowl on NYD/NYE. I do think it will eventually go to Four 18 team conferences. The only question is who will be the 7 teams to join the P4 and which goes away the B12 or ACC.

Just more regional FBS competition for ECU to recruit against...

Coastal Carolina's football stadium only seats approximately 9600.

(09-01-2015 12:23 PM)Savacool Wrote:  Coastal Carolina's football stadium only seats approximately 9600.

They committed to expanding it to 25,000 before starting SBC play. They also apparently have committed to upgrading their basketball facility, which is only 3 years old.

According to tweets about it, the way they do this will be interesting. Details should be out later today. Their coach is worth $1.2 billion though...so it wouldn't surprise me if interesting means their coach is paying for it.

(09-01-2015 12:34 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(09-01-2015 12:23 PM)Savacool Wrote:  Coastal Carolina's football stadium only seats approximately 9600.

They committed to expanding it to 25,000 before starting SBC play. They also apparently have committed to upgrading their basketball facility, which is only 3 years old.

According to tweets about it, the way they do this will be interesting. Details should be out later today. Their coach is worth $1.2 billion though...so it wouldn't surprise me if interesting means their coach is paying for it.

What the heck! Who is their coach?

(09-01-2015 12:55 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(09-01-2015 12:34 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(09-01-2015 12:23 PM)Savacool Wrote:  Coastal Carolina's football stadium only seats approximately 9600.

They committed to expanding it to 25,000 before starting SBC play. They also apparently have committed to upgrading their basketball facility, which is only 3 years old.

According to tweets about it, the way they do this will be interesting. Details should be out later today. Their coach is worth $1.2 billion though...so it wouldn't surprise me if interesting means their coach is paying for it.

What the heck! Who is their coach?

Ex-Ameritrade CEO.

(09-01-2015 12:08 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Just more regional FBS competition for ECU to recruit against...

Meh, good for Coastal IMO. I don't look at it that way. What will happen is Coastal, App St, Georgia Southern and GSU will fight over the best NQ's and best guys that would've gone FCS. That's the guys that who will use those additional 20 scholarships.

(09-01-2015 12:06 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  I don't think you will ever see an official guaranteed spot for a conference even if it goes to P4. That is what got the BCS into trouble. It will always be the top 4 or 8 teams determined by a committee. The only thing of going to P4, it virtually would make the P4 Championship games the semi's. This would allow to keep the CFP bowls and send the G5 Champ a bowl on NYD/NYE. I do think it will eventually go to Four 18 team conferences. The only question is who will be the 7 teams to join the P4 and which goes away the B12 or ACC.

We already have the guaranteed spots - the Contract Bowls. However, if the CFP expands to 8 teams, I could see the P5/4 champs getting autobids - the committee would still pick some wild cards and seed the field.

ECU doesn't have to worry at all about competing for recruits with Coastal, App State, Charlotte, or ODU. This one picture alone would get a kid to choose ECU all day, every day:

(09-01-2015 01:40 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  ECU doesn't have to worry at all about competing for recruits with Coastal, App State, Charlotte, or ODU. This one picture alone would get a kid to choose ECU all day, every day:

ECU has a nice football history, nice football stadium plus the fine destinations and competition this league (AAC) offers should be sufficient in locking almost any recruits they want against any of those mention above ^^^.

Competition for ECU??? No even close.