Quote:Lindsey Graham: If Trump Is Nominee, 'That's The End Of The Republican Party'

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I'd hand the Democrats the White House the next 4 years to burn the GOP establishment to the ground wholesale.

Sounds like a good solution to the GOP problem.

Trump is the new GOP. If he doesn't win a new Trump party will form.

Trump or bust. Thanks for the marching orders Lyndsey.

Trump and Graham are equally unworthy of my support.

(08-29-2015 08:25 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Trump and Graham are equally unworthy of my support.

Me too, but Graham and the other empty suits complaining about Trump are the ones that created the problem.

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(08-29-2015 08:28 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 08:25 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Trump and Graham are equally unworthy of my support.

Me too, but Graham and the other empty suits complaining about Trump are the ones that created the problem.

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+1

(08-29-2015 06:06 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

Quote:Lindsey Graham: If Trump Is Nominee, 'That's The End Of The Republican Party'

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I'd hand the Democrats the White House the next 4 years to burn the GOP establishment to the ground wholesale.

I'd rather not hand it to Bernie Sanders or Liz Warren, because I'm not sure we could recover from either. We can recover from Obama because he didn't get much of his agenda done, health insurance "reform" and mea culpas in lieu of foreign policy being about the extent of it. If Sanders or Warren actually got done the things they talk about, we could be done as an economy--Argentina at best, Zimbabwe at worst.

But this current version of the republican party is so screwed up that it might be worth taking even that chance. When you lose an election that you thought you were going to win in 2012, and you are so concerned that you do an "autopsy" of the results, and then you lead off for 2016 by doing everything that the autopsy told you not to do, one has to question your sanity.

Stupid party versus evil party.

The GOP should just split. The right wing has made them lose the last two elections.

(08-29-2015 07:48 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Trump is the new GOP. If he doesn't win a new Trump party will form.

Instead of Republicans would those be Trumpians? Trumpsters? Trumpeteers?

(08-29-2015 09:10 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The GOP should just split. The right wing has made them lose the last two elections.

Which wing are you taking about?

1) The Plutocrat - no taxes/no regulations/no protections wing/expanding government payments to help big business wing?
2) The Liberanarchitarian - no government/no military overseas wing?
3) The Neocon - subrogate US foreign policy to Israel/go after 'dem Mooslems' wing?
4) The Jesus take the wheel wing?
5) The I hate non-white folk anti-immigration wing?

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With the rise of Trump, the Plutocrats can't buy the guy, the Libertarians can't trust him, the Neocons don't like him, the Jesus freaks will tire of his sexist BS, and all we're left with is the 2015 version of the George Wallace voter.

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And Trump is just such an a*sshole that he'll never be able to unburn those bridges. He's a bully and its obvious.

He also might (gasp) be the nominee. And that would be a disaster for the GOP.

My prediction....Trump wins AL, MS, LA, ARK, TN, KY, WV, SC, OK, NE (2 EVs), ND, SD, KS, WY, ID, and MT. Texas would be 50-50 (remember that only 10% of eligible Mexican American voters in Texas voted in 2012 or 14). Dems would take the Senate too.

(08-29-2015 09:10 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The GOP should just split. The right wing has made them lose the last two elections.

The reason there are not more political parties is because no factions in either party want to be the first to split because it pretty much just guarantees you won't win any national elections.

Only way we will see more than two parties is if they grow through a grassroots movement, starting at the local level, then gaining influence at the state level, and finally becoming nationally relevant.

(08-29-2015 06:06 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

Quote:Lindsey Graham: If Trump Is Nominee, 'That's The End Of The Republican Party'

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/li...ican-party



I'd hand the Democrats the White House the next 4 years to burn the GOP establishment to the ground wholesale.

That's how out of touch he is. Ending the GOP is not a negative to conservative voters! He has no idea.

(08-29-2015 10:01 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 09:10 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The GOP should just split. The right wing has made them lose the last two elections.

The reason there are not more political parties is because no factions in either party want to be the first to split because it pretty much just guarantees you won't win any national elections.

Only way we will see more than two parties is if they grow through a grassroots movement, starting at the local level, then gaining influence at the state level, and finally becoming nationally relevant.

Why not start now?

(08-29-2015 08:25 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Trump and Graham are equally unworthy of my support.

You obviously don't want to make America great again.

I'd be happy to see the GOP establishment burned to the ground.

(08-29-2015 08:28 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 08:25 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Trump and Graham are equally unworthy of my support.

Me too, but Graham and the other empty suits complaining about Trump are the ones that created the problem.

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Woop! There it is!

Not a Trump fan, but I guess you can count me in as one of the "crazies".

(08-29-2015 09:59 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 09:10 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The GOP should just split. The right wing has made them lose the last two elections.

Which wing are you taking about?

1) The Plutocrat - no taxes/no regulations/no protections wing/expanding government payments to help big business wing?
2) The Liberanarchitarian - no government/no military overseas wing?
3) The Neocon - subrogate US foreign policy to Israel/go after 'dem Mooslems' wing?
4) The Jesus take the wheel wing?
5) The I hate non-white folk anti-immigration wing?

--

With the rise of Trump, the Plutocrats can't buy the guy, the Libertarians can't trust him, the Neocons don't like him, the Jesus freaks will tire of his sexist BS, and all we're left with is the 2015 version of the George Wallace voter.

--

And Trump is just such an a*sshole that he'll never be able to unburn those bridges. He's a bully and its obvious.

He also might (gasp) be the nominee. And that would be a disaster for the GOP.

My prediction....Trump wins AL, MS, LA, ARK, TN, KY, WV, SC, OK, NE (2 EVs), ND, SD, KS, WY, ID, and MT. Texas would be 50-50 (remember that only 10% of eligible Mexican American voters in Texas voted in 2012 or 14). Dems would take the Senate too.

#2 is a figment of your imagination Tom.

(08-29-2015 06:06 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

Quote:Lindsey Graham: If Trump Is Nominee, 'That's The End Of The Republican Party'

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/li...ican-party



I'd hand the Democrats the White House the next 4 years to burn the GOP establishment to the ground wholesale.

And how did Ross Perot and 8 years of Clinton and the threat of Hillary help this country?

Your cut off your nose to spite your face group also gave us Jimmy Carter. The Reaganites sat on their hands in 1976.

Any type of split of the Republican Party will give us a Democratic majority for half a century. They will likely get 2/3 majorities in the Senate and close in the House. And the far left who dominates among the party insiders will have no constraints.