(08-28-2015 12:51 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 10:50 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 10:47 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 09:40 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 09:21 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Current buyout?

Directly from Fraziers mouth this summer was that they were reworking Carey's contract to help protect NIU.

With how much effort Frazier has put into scheduling, there is no doubt in my mind that apart of his contract is a return home game for us from the school he goes too

I hope he goes to Bama then

I get it but I like seeing that 1-0 record against Bama. :)

Didn't you know that NO P5 TEAM comes into Huskie Stadium and pushes us around?

Here's where I need some clarification. How can one "State"/ "Public" University offer more money? Let's keep this question in State for example, if UofI wanted to hire Carey how do they have more funds to pay him than we do? Private funds aren't part of it correct? I'm just lost on this. Thanks guys.

(08-28-2015 07:56 AM)niu50yrdline Wrote:  Here's where I need some clarification. How can one "State"/ "Public" University offer more money? Let's keep this question in State for example, if UofI wanted to hire Carey how do they have more funds to pay him than we do? Private funds aren't part of it correct? I'm just lost on this. Thanks guys.

It's almost exclusively private funds, donations from big fish donors.

When a P5 trainwreck like Illinois or Kansas wants to whack their coach (again), they often have to find a big booster who will say, "F*^& it. I will pay to make this clown go away."

Illinois probably has those guys on speed dial.

(08-28-2015 07:56 AM)niu50yrdline Wrote:  Here's where I need some clarification. How can one "State"/ "Public" University offer more money? Let's keep this question in State for example, if UofI wanted to hire Carey how do they have more funds to pay him than we do? Private funds aren't part of it correct? I'm just lost on this. Thanks guys.

private funds are the majority of the compensation

(08-27-2015 10:47 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 09:40 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 09:21 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Current buyout?

Directly from Fraziers mouth this summer was that they were reworking Carey's contract to help protect NIU.

With how much effort Frazier has put into scheduling, there is no doubt in my mind that apart of his contract is a return home game for us from the school he goes too

That sounds good but I really dont like the idea of Carey coming in with a P5 team to play us. That type of deal gives way too much benifit to him.

Lets just ask for a ton of money and if a 1-1 comes up in negotiations then so be it.

(08-28-2015 08:04 AM)cawoo22 Wrote:  It's almost exclusively private funds, donations from big fish donors.

When a P5 trainwreck like Illinois or Kansas wants to whack their coach (again), they often have to find a big booster who will say, "F*^& it. I will pay to make this clown go away."

Illinois probably has those guys on speed dial.

The actual ability to pay more is a combination of the private funding and the revenue disparity. Illinois' athletic department brought in $66 million in revenue in the FYE 6/30/14 compared to $23 million for NIU.

Thanks for the response. I was under the impression that they were state employee's that are paid by the state.

(08-28-2015 08:10 AM)UIHuskie Wrote:  

(08-28-2015 08:04 AM)cawoo22 Wrote:  It's almost exclusively private funds, donations from big fish donors.

When a P5 trainwreck like Illinois or Kansas wants to whack their coach (again), they often have to find a big booster who will say, "F*^& it. I will pay to make this clown go away."

Illinois probably has those guys on speed dial.

The actual ability to pay more is a combination of the private funding and the revenue disparity. Illinois' athletic department brought in $66 million in revenue in the FYE 6/30/14 compared to $23 million for NIU.

And the revenue disparity is almost entirely a product of the Big Ten's payout to each member school.

Must be nice

(08-28-2015 12:07 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 11:49 PM)DeKalb57 Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 10:55 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  If Carey is up for the IU job that means he will have led NIU to being in a serious discussion for an access bowl this year. I'll take losing a coach for that trade.

I get it but, why leave NIU for IU? Unless, of course, you have to "feed your family". Mallory had a better chance and, was still little more than a footnote. If IU knocks, I'm thinking I find some "reason" not to answer the door.

Career advice from DeKalb - be patient. NIU IS a better football opportunity than IU . Better things will come. At IU the BEST you can hope for is to be a "nice" looking 2nd banana as a springboard. Where nice looking means a .500 team. Then, who wants to hire a .500 "up and coming coach"?

That's a good point, going to Indiana would just mean you will be looking for another job in 3 years anyway.

There is a pretty large contingent of NIU fans that want Carey gone, which is kind of odd, but that group is definitely in large numbers.

Based on what...a large scale poll that you proctored? A few ramblings from a message board? You are the king of malo-drama.

I admit I was very skeptical of Rod and that hit a peak after getting dump trucked on homecoming last year.

But, after last season it's clear he and his staff know how to get it done and will continue the standard until they leave. Might not be the most charismatic guy on the mic...but that doesn't matter until you start losing.

I'd guess I speak for every other fan that was a Carey skeptic at some point last season.

I think the people who are skeptical of Rod are just the most vocal, just like those who are minority group against someone (people who don't like an elected official, people who speak out against a hiring. It's always the unhappy who speak the most)

If Rod leaves -- Congrats to him! Lets get the right guy in the job for NIU. New coach, make the breakup clean.

If Rod stays -- Congrats to us! Lets keep our guy and make sure he keeps the upward trajectory we have maintained for the last 7 years.

(08-28-2015 08:17 AM)cawoo22 Wrote:  And the revenue disparity is almost entirely a product of the Big Ten's payout to each member school.

Must be nice

It works out to about 60-65% of the difference for the year of data I cited (for which the payout was about $27 million, if an article linked in your link is correct). So, definitely the majority of it. I'd guess ticket sale revenue would also be a pretty sizeable difference between the two.

(08-27-2015 10:25 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 10:13 PM)HUSKIE2011 Wrote:  My vote is for harnish if carry takes off!

Harnish is walking away from football. At least for a little while.

I thought he made another team this year. What did I miss and what did he announce?

(08-28-2015 07:50 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 09:48 PM)Mark26pt2 Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 09:40 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 09:21 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Current buyout?

Directly from Fraziers mouth this summer was that they were reworking Carey's contract to help protect NIU.

I hope they revise the contract to protect NIU but there is almost no buyout amount that would be high enough to stop a P5 team from taking Carey. All the buyout will do is allow NIU to hire another coach - it won't keep Carey at NIU

The buyout is not to stop a P5 team from hiring Carey but to help fund our athletic master plan.

Co St got $5mil in cash and $2mil in a money game at Florida for their coach's buyout.

I am expecting the reworked contract to be closer to a $3mil buyout but that is just a guess and I am not sure that info would be made public.

As a state university the contract will have to be made public if through nothing else then a FOI request

(08-28-2015 08:40 AM)Mark26pt2 Wrote:  

(08-28-2015 07:50 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 09:48 PM)Mark26pt2 Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 09:40 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 09:21 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Current buyout?

Directly from Fraziers mouth this summer was that they were reworking Carey's contract to help protect NIU.

I hope they revise the contract to protect NIU but there is almost no buyout amount that would be high enough to stop a P5 team from taking Carey. All the buyout will do is allow NIU to hire another coach - it won't keep Carey at NIU

The buyout is not to stop a P5 team from hiring Carey but to help fund our athletic master plan.

Co St got $5mil in cash and $2mil in a money game at Florida for their coach's buyout.

I am expecting the reworked contract to be closer to a $3mil buyout but that is just a guess and I am not sure that info would be made public.

As a state university the contract will have to be made public if through nothing else then a FOI request

Hopefully the new HW people will do the work.

(08-28-2015 08:11 AM)niu50yrdline Wrote:  Thanks for the response. I was under the impression that they were state employee's that are paid by the state.

The head football coach is almost always the highest paid employee at a University. When Coach Kill left NIU he was making around $600K and got over $2M at Minnesota.

The P5 teams can pay whatever they want to a coach (and the market will bear). Don't forget the B10 network pays each institution over $10M a year. I think this year the estimates will be closer to $15-20M from the TV network alone. That does not count additional money from ESPN and over the air channels.

(08-28-2015 08:23 AM)scottiep12 Wrote:  

(08-28-2015 12:07 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 11:49 PM)DeKalb57 Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 10:55 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  If Carey is up for the IU job that means he will have led NIU to being in a serious discussion for an access bowl this year. I'll take losing a coach for that trade.

I get it but, why leave NIU for IU? Unless, of course, you have to "feed your family". Mallory had a better chance and, was still little more than a footnote. If IU knocks, I'm thinking I find some "reason" not to answer the door.

Career advice from DeKalb - be patient. NIU IS a better football opportunity than IU . Better things will come. At IU the BEST you can hope for is to be a "nice" looking 2nd banana as a springboard. Where nice looking means a .500 team. Then, who wants to hire a .500 "up and coming coach"?

That's a good point, going to Indiana would just mean you will be looking for another job in 3 years anyway.

There is a pretty large contingent of NIU fans that want Carey gone, which is kind of odd, but that group is definitely in large numbers.

Based on what...a large scale poll that you proctored? A few ramblings from a message board? You are the king of malo-drama.

I admit I was very skeptical of Rod and that hit a peak after getting dump trucked on homecoming last year.

But, after last season it's clear he and his staff know how to get it done and will continue the standard until they leave. Might not be the most charismatic guy on the mic...but that doesn't matter until you start losing.

I'd guess I speak for every other fan that was a Carey skeptic at some point last season.

Is that what happens when you run out of marshmallows? Or is that what happened when you sat in the student section of Huskie Stadium back in the early nineties?

(08-28-2015 08:43 AM)Mark26pt2 Wrote:  

(08-28-2015 08:11 AM)niu50yrdline Wrote:  Thanks for the response. I was under the impression that they were state employee's that are paid by the state.

The head football coach is almost always the highest paid employee at a University. When Coach Kill left NIU he was making around $600K and got over $2M at Minnesota.

The P5 teams can pay whatever they want to a coach (and the market will bear). Don't forget the B10 network pays each institution over $10M a year. I think this year the estimates will be closer to $15-20M from the TV network alone. That does not count additional money from ESPN and over the air channels.

IU non-con schedule:
SIU
FIU
Western Kentucky
@Wake Forest.

(08-28-2015 07:50 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 09:48 PM)Mark26pt2 Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 09:40 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 09:21 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Current buyout?

Directly from Fraziers mouth this summer was that they were reworking Carey's contract to help protect NIU.

I hope they revise the contract to protect NIU but there is almost no buyout amount that would be high enough to stop a P5 team from taking Carey. All the buyout will do is allow NIU to hire another coach - it won't keep Carey at NIU

The buyout is not to stop a P5 team from hiring Carey but to help fund our athletic master plan.

Co St got $5mil in cash and $2mil in a money game at Florida for their coach's buyout.

I am expecting the reworked contract to be closer to a $3mil buyout but that is just a guess and I am not sure that info would be made public.

Hope you're right, 3 million and a 1+1 would be great. Our next coach, especially if we grant someone their first HC job, needs to take the buyout up another notch. Impressed with Co State's package!

(08-27-2015 10:00 PM)MileHighHuskie Wrote:  I would be happy with Matt Canada......

He would probably have to take a paycut to take the NIU job, but with his history here I think he would.

I was on a connecting flight in Atlanta with him last November the week before the WMU game and he talked about how WMU was going to be tough and how NIU was finding ways to win. I really think he would take the job without thinking twice.